2021 NBA Draft Thread

Post #701 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:38 pm

Old Man Game wrote:What do you all make of Kai Jones? I watched this kid in the Big 12 tournament and came away pretty impressed. Could totally see him at 16 or 18. High energy dunker spot/screen and roll guy. Sort of a Montrezl Harrell potential if he develops his skills.

He has some intriguing skills but I also think he has a lot of weaknesses. I have concerns about him being able to overcome all of them to become a good player.

Devilanche · Post #702 » by **Devilanche** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:44 pm

I’m fine with one of isiah Jackson / Garuba / Kai Jones with our second pick of the first round whenever that might be. At this moment if I’m moving up I rather not take Sengun but ask me again in a week or so and I might change my mind.

Pretty much easier to talk myself into using a high pick for a guard/ forward than a center.

Post #703 » by **Dadouv47** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:56 pm

Guess I'm the only one on the Sengun hype here

Wouldn't take him at 6 though and i doubt he gets past 12

Old Man Game · Post #704 » by **Old Man Game** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:19 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:Guess I'm the only one on the Sengun hype here

Wouldn't take him at 6 though and i doubt he gets past 12

I can't decide. He looks like he could be a Domas Sabonis type, but all the clips I've seen of his post moves remind me too much of Enes Kanter. Not to say his moves aren't good, but the NBA is just trending away from that style of play so I don't know that he'll be all that valuable.

thedoppelganger · Post #705 » by **thedoppelganger** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:33 pm

Read on Twitter

Thought he might be one to look out for if we traded into the late 1st using our 2nds, late lottery seems a bit crazy at the moment.

Post #706 » by **Dadouv47** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:56 pm

thedoppelganger wrote:

Read on Twitter

Thought he might be one to look out for if we traded into the late 1st using our 2nds, late lottery seems a bit crazy at the moment.

Well if Presti doesn't care about very young players, we are In for the long run (I'm fine with it)

Devilanche · Post #707 » by **Devilanche** » Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:39 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:Guess I'm the only one on the Sengun hype here

Wouldn't take him at 6 though and i doubt he gets past 12

I would like him only if we are in the 9-12 range which we don’t have for now

bbms · Post #708 » by **bbms** » Thu Jul 1, 2021 2:33 am

Dadouv47 wrote:Guess I'm the only one on the Sengun hype here

Wouldn't take him at 6 though and i doubt he gets past 12

I'm in to picking him at 6 if we can't move up for Mobley.

Brick Layer · Post #709 » by **Brick Layer** » Thu Jul 1, 2021 2:32 pm

I think Mobley will be off the board after the third pick. Do you really think Presti would pull the trigger on Sengun at 6?

Old Man Game · Post #710 » by **Old Man Game** » Thu Jul 1, 2021 6:27 pm

We should keep a running tally of how many mocks from national figures actually have Barnes in the top 5. Chad Ford has him at 4.

Post #711 » by **ThunderBolt** » Thu Jul 1, 2021 7:29 pm

Old Man Game wrote:We should keep a running tally of how many mocks from national figures actually have Barnes in the top 5. Chad Ford has him at 4.

The athletic staff did a full draft and they had him at four.

BlazersBroncos · Post #712 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Thu Jul 1, 2021 8:41 pm

Does 6, 16, 18 and 3 future FRP get the Thunder to #3? If you see Green, Suggs or Mobley as the guy to put next to SGA, is that cost worth it? Pretty clear 'yes' to me IMO.

But I think end of the day that doesnt get you there. Gap b/t top4 and 5 is just too much.

Post #713 » by **Dadouv47** » Thu Jul 1, 2021 8:48 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:Does 6, 16, 18 and 3 future FRP get the Thunder to #3? If you see Green, Suggs or Mobley as the guy to put next to SGA, is that cost worth it? Pretty clear 'yes' to me IMO.

But I think end of the day that doesnt get you there. Gap b/t top4 and 5 is just too much.

pick n°6 + 5 FRPs is a LOT. Kind of package that allows you to get a guy like Bradley Beal.

I love Green and not fan of players at 5/6 but not sure I'm willing to pay that much.

jake_swivel · Post #714 » by **jake_swivel** » Thu Jul 1, 2021 8:53 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:Does 6, 16, 18 and 3 future FRP get the Thunder to #3? If you see Green, Suggs or Mobley as the guy to put next to SGA, is that cost worth it? Pretty clear 'yes' to me IMO.

But I think end of the day that doesnt get you there. Gap b/t top4 and 5 is just too much.

Depends on which future picks. I think I’d be alright throwing in the suns pick, heat pick, and next years clippers pick.

BlazersBroncos · Post #715 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Thu Jul 1, 2021 10:18 pm

Depends on which future picks. I think I’d be alright throwing in the suns pick, heat pick, and next years clippers pick.

Thats what I was thinking. Something like:

#6, #16, #18, 2022 PHX FRP, 2023 DEN FRP, 2024 LAC FRP for #4

Then see if HOU will take #34, #36 for #24

4 - Jalen Suggs G - PG version of Brandon Roy IMO
24 - Neemias Queta C - Underrated rim protector with surprisingly high BBIQ.

Watch on YouTube

jake_swivel · Post #716 » by **jake_swivel** » Thu Jul 1, 2021 11:10 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:
Thats what I was thinking. Something like:

#6, #16, #18, 2022 PHX FRP, 2023 DEN FRP, 2024 LAC FRP for #4

That later clippers pick would be a no-go for me. Really any of the clippers picks outside of next year would likely be a non-starter. The Denver pick is fine.

Post #717 » by **Dadouv47** » Thu Jul 1, 2021 11:17 pm

jake_swivel wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:
Thats what I was thinking. Something like:

#6, #16, #18, 2022 PHX FRP, 2023 DEN FRP, 2024 LAC FRP for #4

That later clippers pick would be a no-go for me. Really any of the clippers picks outside of next year would likely be a non-starter. The Denver pick is fine.

yeah those clippers picks are probably gonna be terrible but we never know...PG13/Kawhi are injury prone so...

I'm fine to trade Denver, Suns and Miami FRP.

Still think overall it's a big overpay and I'm not sure I want to spend 6 picks for Mobley or Suggs (Green probably picked at 2)

bbms · Post #718 » by **bbms** » Fri Jul 2, 2021 1:53 am

BlazersBroncos wrote:Does 6, 16, 18 and 3 future FRP get the Thunder to #3? If you see Green, Suggs or Mobley as the guy to put next to SGA, is that cost worth it? Pretty clear 'yes' to me IMO.

But I think end of the day that doesnt get you there. Gap b/t top4 and 5 is just too much.

That would be really expensive.

Old Man Game · Post #719 » by **Old Man Game** » Fri Jul 2, 2021 11:48 am

ThunderBolt wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:We should keep a running tally of how many mocks from national figures actually have Barnes in the top 5. Chad Ford has him at 4.

The athletic staff did a full draft and they had him at four.

CBS sports' most recent one out yesterday has him at 5. That writer says an NBA Scout even said he wouldn't take Kuminga in the lottery at all (though, to be clear, the writer went ahead and slotted him at 6 with us).

Old Man Game · Post #720 » by **Old Man Game** » Fri Jul 2, 2021 11:51 am

Lots of people talk about building through the draft but lots less talk about how important it is just to get really lucky with the guy you pick. Look at Booker at pick 13. If they pick Cam Payne that year (who went 14) are they in the Finals? Or Jokic and Draymond being picked in the second round, are their respective teams as successful if they end up with guys that never make the roster instead?

That's why I'd still like to hold onto a great many of these picks even if it seems like something that will be useless.