Trades, Transactions and Ideas Thread

[ThunderBolt]

Did anyone else hear Zach Lowe talk about executives believing its possible for Dame to end up in OKC?

I obviously don’t think it will happen, but I found it interesting

I think we are going to be tied to any rumored big moves for the foreseeable future, regardless if it makes sense for us.

[Devilanche]

I know it's gonna be impossible for OKC to roster every pick they've accrued over these next 6 years but I wouldn't be too upset if they just kept 16 and 18. There's gonna be some good players in that range that aren't too dissimilar from pick ~#10 in terms of range of outcomes and it wouldn't hurt to head into training camp with one more rookie if they plan on punting again this year. It's a bit anecdotal here but it seems less likely the team trading up is the longterm beneficiary in these deals.

I’m fine with wasting a current player / small future asset (those lotto protected picks to move up to the early 10s just to get our pick of who we want.

[Dn4sty]

I know it's gonna be impossible for OKC to roster every pick they've accrued over these next 6 years but I wouldn't be too upset if they just kept 16 and 18. There's gonna be some good players in that range that aren't too dissimilar from pick ~#10 in terms of range of outcomes and it wouldn't hurt to head into training camp with one more rookie if they plan on punting again this year. It's a bit anecdotal here but it seems less likely the team trading up is the longterm beneficiary in these deals.

How do you like at 16 & 18?

This wasn’t directed at me, but if OKC winds up keeping 16 and 18 I’d take a long look at Garuba and Mann as I don’t think there is a chance that Sengun and Moody are still there when OKC would pick

[retrobro90]

I know it's gonna be impossible for OKC to roster every pick they've accrued over these next 6 years but I wouldn't be too upset if they just kept 16 and 18. There's gonna be some good players in that range that aren't too dissimilar from pick ~#10 in terms of range of outcomes and it wouldn't hurt to head into training camp with one more rookie if they plan on punting again this year. It's a bit anecdotal here but it seems less likely the team trading up is the longterm beneficiary in these deals.

How do you like at 16 & 18?

So the current ESPN mock has us taking Sengun and Moody at 16 and 18 respectively. That would be pretty damn ideal for me personally. Would love Garuba or Bouknight as well but I think the point I wanna make isn't necessarily about certain specific prospects but just holistically the negligible difference between guys 7-18 in this draft. There's a lot of guys to pick from in that range and there's not enough talent separation in that group for me to feel strongly about trading up.

[Dn4sty]

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[thedoppelganger]

How much is the value off here for moving up from both 16 and 18?

NOLA Trades:
Bledsoe
#10

NOLA Receives:
Lamb
#16

Indiana Trades:
Lamb
#13

Indiana Receives:
Jerome or Kenrich
#18

OKC Trades:
Jerome or Kenrich
#16
#18

OKC Receives:
Bledsoe
#10
#13

NOLA gets off half of Bledsoe's 2021 salary for Lamb's expiring who should provide better spacing for Zion, moves back 6 spots. Indiana saves $8 million ahead of some decisions this summer on who to keep without going over tax line, gets a rotation player and moves back 5 spots. OKC takes on Bledsoe's money and gives up either Jerome or Kenrich to move up enough to have 3 lottery picks. Maybe a 2nd needs to go to NOLA as well?

[Devilanche]

I would throw in one or two of our high seconds to make this work

Edit : slight tweak I would make is to send Jerome to NO instead so they can get more shooting and let ball go instead of overpaying

Then give one of the high second to Indiana . That way they can spin it as getting another look at a prospect they like while gaining flexibility to resign their own players as the second will be paid a lot less than Jerome

[vtime]

I feel like SGA is nearly on the same level as Booker. We could’ve kept CP3 and used all those to get an Ayton type or better and been in the Finals this year.

[ThunderBolt]

I feel like SGA is nearly on the same level as Booker. We could’ve kept CP3 and used all those to get an Ayton type or better and been in the Finals this year.

It's not that easy. You can't predict an injury riddled playoffs like this year. We also could have ran it back and Cp3 gets hurt in round one, chooses to leave in the offseason and now you are left building around Shai one year later.

[vtime]

Just hope we don’t turn into Boston East. Singe hoarded a treasure trove of picks and just has Tatum and Brown to show for it and had to use a pick to move Kemba. Didn’t rally get picks from any teams bad enough to yield high draft picks.

[bondom34]

The Suns also have Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, a quality backup PG, Jae Crowder, and a handful of other good role players. OKC has....Dort? And I'd take any of those guys over him pretty easily.

[bondom34]

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/1224377/vasilije-micic-signs-three-year-extension-with-anadolu-efes/

Anadolu Efes officially announced that reigning EuroLeague and Final Four MVP Vasilije Micic signed a three-year contract extension with the club.

The contract includes NBA out clauses for each of the next two summers.

[Old Man Game]

The Suns also have Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, a quality backup PG, Jae Crowder, and a handful of other good role players. OKC has....Dort? And I'd take any of those guys over him pretty easily.

Any? Even Payne?

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[bondom34]

The Suns also have Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, a quality backup PG, Jae Crowder, and a handful of other good role players. OKC has....Dort? And I'd take any of those guys over him pretty easily.

Any? Even Payne?

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Actually was going to change that but looking at their numbers from just this year....yeah think so. Dort has him on pure volume scoring but that's about it. And would add Saric too.



Call me crazy but...yeah I think so just based on their numbers. Dort played about 500 more minutes but per minute Cam was a good bit better I think.

Edit: Ever post something and think you're crazy afterward because that's how I feel right now. Hadn't looked at Cam much but he had a really good year, props to him. Not sure how I feel about this, but either way he's the only one I'd say is even any question and based on this...

Second edit: Suppose context is needed as well but still not sure, Payne was really good. Really keep 2nd guessing but by the numbers Payne has a pretty decent edge.

[Old Man Game]

The Suns also have Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, a quality backup PG, Jae Crowder, and a handful of other good role players. OKC has....Dort? And I'd take any of those guys over him pretty easily.

Any? Even Payne?

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Actually was going to change that but looking at their numbers from just this year....yeah think so. Dort has him on pure volume scoring but that's about it. And would add Saric too.



Call me crazy but...yeah I think so just based on their numbers. Dort played about 500 more minutes but per minute Cam was a good bit better I think.

Edit: Ever post something and think you're crazy afterward because that's how I feel right now. Hadn't looked at Cam much but he had a really good year, props to him. Not sure how I feel about this, but either way he's the only one I'd say is even any question and based on this...

Second edit: Suppose context is needed as well but still not sure, Payne was really good. Really keep 2nd guessing but by the numbers Payne has a pretty decent edge.

Feel like I'd still take Dort on age alone given how close everything else is. But I have always like Payne and am rooting for him.

[bondom34]

Any? Even Payne?

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Actually was going to change that but looking at their numbers from just this year....yeah think so. Dort has him on pure volume scoring but that's about it. And would add Saric too.



Call me crazy but...yeah I think so just based on their numbers. Dort played about 500 more minutes but per minute Cam was a good bit better I think.

Edit: Ever post something and think you're crazy afterward because that's how I feel right now. Hadn't looked at Cam much but he had a really good year, props to him. Not sure how I feel about this, but either way he's the only one I'd say is even any question and based on this...

Second edit: Suppose context is needed as well but still not sure, Payne was really good. Really keep 2nd guessing but by the numbers Payne has a pretty decent edge.

Feel like I'd still take Dort on age alone given how close everything else is. But I have always like Payne and am rooting for him.

Oh gotcha there. Just meant in terms of "a team trying to make the finals this year" sort of way. Saying the Thunder could have made the finals by keeping CP3 and getting one player on Ayton's level seems a bit far fetched. The whole roster is bad.

[Dn4sty]

Bondom mentioned on the T&t board finding the 24ish old player to consolidate assets for and bring onto this team.

Who is that player?

[Dadouv47]

Well if Presti knew that the best teams in the league (except from Philly) would lose their best or second best player during the playoffs, he may have kept CP3 and traded our picks for good players.

The Suns are doing a very good job and they were already in the right path before acquiring CP3 but it's absurd how lucky they are.

[BlazersBroncos]

The Suns also have Bridges and Crowder, two of the best 3/D glue guys in the league. Those are not easy players to find.

[ThunderBolt]

A lot of people, including some suns fans, were talking about Ayton being in the same tier as Bagley before the season started.