Ben Simmons Trade Thread

[Sportfan73]

I’d way rather have CJ tbh and I don’t want CJ lol

CJ is a better shooter and better at defense. Had to eavesdrop on your board because I couldn't believe after all the "CJ is bad at defense and old" folks seemed to like Brogdon. Just made no sense.

Ummm Brogdon is a much better defender.

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Yeah he is but contract wise give me CJ. And volume shooting and quick trigger wise

[eyeatoma]

I'll take CJ over Brogdon all day. Better offensive player, better shooter, better at taking the game over. He's out of Portland this summer. There's no denying that. I just hope it's to us. I'd give up Tobias Harris for him and Portland fans seem to like that deal for the most part. It helps out both rosters and it's a fair trade.

And then keep Ben? Feels like a really lateral move for us. Still need to move Ben.

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[Roy The Natural]

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Don't want him for Ben, but I still maintain that Tobias for CJ would be a heist for us. Ridiculous shot creating talent. Shoots 3's on high volume at a high clip and has advanced metrics that promote him being a very noticeable on court presence.



Career on/offs look more like Devin Booker's or Bradley Beal's than Demar Derozan's or Zach Lavine's. Grades out extremely well in RPM centric stats as well. Would currently be our second best player.

Im with you. Cj isnt in Dame's level but he's a pretty good guard. He scores well in isolation and shoots a lot of 3s. I like Tobias but i would trade him easily for Cj.

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All of this.. plus Harris' dubious fit in Portland is exactly why it's very unlikely that CJ would be moved for Harris without at least moderate incentive.

[stormi]

Lowry
CJ
Green
Simmons
Embiid

Wowee what do you know that looks like a championship quality starting unit lol.

Absolutely a championship caliber starting 5 and the best starting 5 the 76ers have had since the 80's. Would just need some bench tweaks. Targeting positionally versatile guys like Larry Nance that can space the floor and defend. I'd also go after some instant contributor types in the draft assuming Mann didn't fall. Jared Butler or even Tre Murphy to come in and be our Cam Johnson.

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Don't want him for Ben, but I still maintain that Tobias for CJ would be a heist for us. Ridiculous shot creating talent. Shoots 3's on high volume at a high clip and has advanced metrics that promote him being a very noticeable on court presence.



Career on/offs look more like Devin Booker's or Bradley Beal's than Demar Derozan's or Zach Lavine's. Grades out extremely well in RPM centric stats as well. Would currently be our second best player.

Im with you. Cj isnt in Dame's level but he's a pretty good guard. He scores well in isolation and shoots a lot of 3s. I like Tobias but i would trade him easily for Cj.

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All of this.. plus Harris' dubious fit in Portland is exactly why it's very unlikely that CJ would be moved for Harris without at least moderate incentive.

If you want Ben it's a Dame convo, if you're pawning CJ it's a Tobias convo.

[JRoy]

POR doesn’t want Harris for CJ.

I’d do it if PHI adds Thybulle.

[eyeatoma]

POR doesn’t want Harris for CJ.

I’d do it if PHI adds Thybulle.

LOL.

[DCasey91]

Lowry
CJ
Green
Simmons
Embiid

Wowee what do you know that looks like a championship quality starting unit lol.

Absolutely a championship caliber starting 5 and the best starting 5 the 76ers have had since the 80's. Would just need some bench tweaks. Targeting positionally versatile guys like Larry Nance that can space the floor and defend. I'd also go after some instant contributor types in the draft assuming Mann didn't fall. Jared Butler or even Tre Murphy to come in and be our Cam Johnson.

I would love Nance here. Can play as a starter for us for 20 or so games no problems for me.

Looking at GRob III for the Mike Scott role and Josh Hart as the Green replacement. Even Ennis wasn’t bad for us lol

Butler I rate though his condition in the end might be for naught. Heart is no joke it’s a career ender which is tragic because he is NBA material.

Trey Murphy yes please!

Maxey gets more burn to develop.

Hill/Milton/Thybulle are all moveable. Curry as our rightful 6th man.

Suddenly the team looks fine from here on out.

[DCasey91]

POR doesn’t want Harris for CJ.

I’d do it if PHI adds Thybulle.

Done where do I sign?

[JRoy]

Works for me, big Thybulle fan.

[DCasey91]

Works for me, big Thybulle fan.

His name is Matisse but it’s really Peter Parker playing basketball when he’s not saving the neighborhood.

He’s basically Spider-Man on defense.

Play him 30+ mins, him and Draymond are two guys that can legit get 5x5 stocks lol.

[JRoy]

Works for me, big Thybulle fan.

His name is Matisse but it’s really Peter Parker playing basketball when he’s not saving the neighborhood.

He’s basically Spider-Man on defense.

Play him 30+ mins, him and Draymond are two guys that can legit get 5x5 stocks lol.

Would love to see RoCo and he playing some d for the Blazers with Nurk as a backstop.

[eyeatoma]

POR doesn’t want Harris for CJ.

I’d do it if PHI adds Thybulle.

Done where do I sign?

You'd give up Harris and Thybulle for CJ? What the fawk!

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[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I'm late to the party! Just saw where we rejected Indy's offer of Brogdon and a first for Simmons. Yo....First of all, I gotta say...Simmons is as good as gone I think. So many rumors out there right now, Rich Paul, already fielding offers. The writing is on the wall. Still, we turned down Brogdon and a first. A lot of us here I'm sure would have been fine with that deal, but I am glad that we didn't do it. We can do better I think. Brogdon is a fine player, but I'm just not feeling that trade.

[DCasey91]

POR doesn’t want Harris for CJ.

I’d do it if PHI adds Thybulle.

Done where do I sign?

You'd give up Harris and Thybulle for CJ? What the fawk!

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Yes 100%. Gotta give to get something. 21 mil saved

Solves 1/2 (SG/PG) of our backcourt problem.

Looking at it logically we gained + 1, plus money + 1 at the cost of zero or 0.5 (Harris PF and below average when accounting for contract, isn’t part of the 1/2 problem) and a non starter quality in Thybulle.

It’s a no brainer trading wise. You get the best asset at the cost of one negative with a big added positional bonus.

Let go of emotional attachment.

Why would a non starting caliber player hold up a much needed trade for us?

50% of the problem that we’ve had all these years is solved there potentially. It’s potential but in terms of risk and leverage my god we pass with flying colors .

People don’t realize how bad Harris’s contract is for us.

[eyeatoma]

Done where do I sign?

You'd give up Harris and Thybulle for CJ? What the fawk!

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Yes 100%. Gotta give to get something. 21 mil saved

Solves 1/2 (SG/PG) of our backcourt problem.

Looking at it logically we gained + 1, plus money + 1 at the cost of zero or 0.5 (Harris PF and below average when accounting for contract, isn’t part of the 1/2 problem) and a non starter quality in Thybulle.

It’s a no brainer trading wise. You get the best asset at the cost of one negative with a big added positional bonus.

Let go of emotional attachment.

Why would a non starting caliber player hold up a much needed trade for us?

50% of the problem that we’ve had all these years is solved there potentially. It’s potential but in terms of risk and leverage my god we pass with flying colors .

People don’t realize how bad Harris’s contract is for us.

Harris is not why we lost in the playoffs. If you give up Thybulle you do it for a star packaged with Ben, not for CJ McCollum.

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[DCasey91]

We also get the added part on the production and usage uptick because he’s not playing alongside Lillard.

Dude will be an all star in the East on our team.

CJ is not the answer, Embiid is and will forever will be. If you trade him (that should be discussed years from now) you start from ground zero again. No thanks

[DCasey91]

You'd give up Harris and Thybulle for CJ? What the fawk!

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Yes 100%. Gotta give to get something. 21 mil saved

Solves 1/2 (SG/PG) of our backcourt problem.

Looking at it logically we gained + 1, plus money + 1 at the cost of zero or 0.5 (Harris PF and below average when accounting for contract, isn’t part of the 1/2 problem) and a non starter quality in Thybulle.

It’s a no brainer trading wise. You get the best asset at the cost of one negative with a big added positional bonus.

Let go of emotional attachment.

Why would a non starting caliber player hold up a much needed trade for us?

50% of the problem that we’ve had all these years is solved there potentially. It’s potential but in terms of risk and leverage my god we pass with flying colors .

People don’t realize how bad Harris’s contract is for us.

Harris is not why we lost in the playoffs. If you give up Thybulle you do it for a star packaged with Ben, but for CJ McCollum.

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I don’t care what happened in the playoffs I said it back in January check it we are second round fodder ECF at best... look what happened like clockwork. We had the worst guard rotation going into it.

Always look to max out the team around your best player which is Embiid.

Harris’s contract is an eyesore he can’t play any better then what he’s shown. Should have been traded halfway through this year when his value supposedly was at an all time high for his stupid contract.

He’s getting All NBA 1st team full contract money and he’s no where near that.

[eyeatoma]

Yes 100%. Gotta give to get something. 21 mil saved

Solves 1/2 (SG/PG) of our backcourt problem.

Looking at it logically we gained + 1, plus money + 1 at the cost of zero or 0.5 (Harris PF and below average when accounting for contract, isn’t part of the 1/2 problem) and a non starter quality in Thybulle.

It’s a no brainer trading wise. You get the best asset at the cost of one negative with a big added positional bonus.

Let go of emotional attachment.

Why would a non starting caliber player hold up a much needed trade for us?

50% of the problem that we’ve had all these years is solved there potentially. It’s potential but in terms of risk and leverage my god we pass with flying colors .

People don’t realize how bad Harris’s contract is for us.

Harris is not why we lost in the playoffs. If you give up Thybulle you do it for a star packaged with Ben, but for CJ McCollum.

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I don’t care what happened in the playoffs I said it back in January check it we are second round fodder ECF at best... look what happened like clockwork. We had the worst guard rotation going into it.

Always look to max out the team around your best player which is Embiid.

Harris’s contract is an eyesore he can’t play any better then what he’s shown. Should have been traded halfway through this year when his value supposedly was at an all time high for his stupid contract.

He’s getting All NBA 1st team full contract money and he’s no where near that.

And Simmons contract? Harris can be moved later and you don't need to add anyone to him. He recouped a lot of value this year.

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[Roy The Natural]

POR doesn’t want Harris for CJ.

I’d do it if PHI adds Thybulle.

LOL.

JRoy has an unhealthy obsession with Thybulle... It's strange. He's probably do CJ for Thybulle straight up. However, I agree with him overall. I think CJ is on a better contract and a better player then Harris. It think there needs to be incentive to make the swap. I don't think Portland wants anything to do with a CJ Harris straight swap.