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Re: New Jersey’s for 21-22 season 

Post#21 » by zeebneeb » Sat Jul 3, 2021 12:00 am

bstein14 wrote:Not sure why, but I am kind of hoping Cade takes #33. Would be interesting to see another young superstar in Detroit with #33.

I was 11 years old when we drafted Grant Hill it was those teal years that I really feel in love with basketball and playing the Pistons. I had the teal #33 jersey, went to my first Pistons games, drank the Sprite, wore the Filas. There is strangely a bit of nostalgia for that era even though we weren't very good. Grant, Hunter, Terry Mills, Ratliff.
Three Mills, the Rattler, yeah that was an interesting era. People sometimes forget how good Hill was.
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Re: New Jersey’s for 21-22 season 

Post#22 » by Snakebites » Sat Jul 3, 2021 12:11 am

bstein14 wrote:Not sure why, but I am kind of hoping Cade takes #33. Would be interesting to see another young superstar in Detroit with #33.

I was 11 years old when we drafted Grant Hill it was those teal years that I really feel in love with basketball and playing the Pistons. I had the teal #33 jersey, went to my first Pistons games, drank the Sprite, wore the Filas. There is strangely a bit of nostalgia for that era even though we weren't very good. Grant, Hunter, Terry Mills, Ratliff.

There are a lot of millenials- it's a very big generation. That's why 90s nostalgia is such a big thing. I have a lot of nostalgia for it too, even though the era after it was far more successful- I guess it was just a comforting time in my childhood and I remember everything from that time period fondly.

I remember 96-97 the best - Grant Hill was a top 3 player that year. Basically him surrounded with shooting was enough to win 54 games- and we were even better than that before the All-Star Break. We were so good before the break that old-man Dumars was picked as an all star injury replacement. It was a team weirdly ahead of it's time- though admittedly helped by the moved up 3 point line. If we'd kept Allan Houston the offseason before we might have been even better- might have even been able to build upon that core- you never know.

I doubt Cade will take 33, but that would be cool.

I do think that number should be retired, but I understand why it hasn't happened.
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Re: New Jersey’s for 21-22 season 

Post#23 » by zeebneeb » Sat Jul 3, 2021 12:46 am

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bstein14 wrote:Not sure why, but I am kind of hoping Cade takes #33. Would be interesting to see another young superstar in Detroit with #33.

I was 11 years old when we drafted Grant Hill it was those teal years that I really feel in love with basketball and playing the Pistons. I had the teal #33 jersey, went to my first Pistons games, drank the Sprite, wore the Filas. There is strangely a bit of nostalgia for that era even though we weren't very good. Grant, Hunter, Terry Mills, Ratliff.

There are a lot of millenials- it's a very big generation. That's why 90s nostalgia is such a big thing. I have a lot of nostalgia for it too, even though the era after it was far more successful- I guess it was just a comforting time in my childhood and I remember everything from that time period fondly.

I remember 96-97 the best - Grant Hill was a top 3 player that year. Basically him surrounded with shooting was enough to win 54 games- and we were even better than that before the All-Star Break. We were so good before the break that old-man Dumars was picked as an all star injury replacement. It was a team weirdly ahead of it's time- though admittedly helped by the moved up 3 point line. If we'd kept Allan Houston the offseason before we might have been even better- might have even been able to build upon that core- you never know.

I doubt Cade will take 33, but that would be cool.

I do think that number should be retired, but I understand why it hasn't happened.
That number will never be retired here unless Cade takes it, and becomes a star.

Hill chose his vagabond career, he can live with it.
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Re: New Jersey’s for 21-22 season 

Post#24 » by Snakebites » Sat Jul 3, 2021 12:47 am

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bstein14 wrote:Not sure why, but I am kind of hoping Cade takes #33. Would be interesting to see another young superstar in Detroit with #33.

I was 11 years old when we drafted Grant Hill it was those teal years that I really feel in love with basketball and playing the Pistons. I had the teal #33 jersey, went to my first Pistons games, drank the Sprite, wore the Filas. There is strangely a bit of nostalgia for that era even though we weren't very good. Grant, Hunter, Terry Mills, Ratliff.

There are a lot of millenials- it's a very big generation. That's why 90s nostalgia is such a big thing. I have a lot of nostalgia for it too, even though the era after it was far more successful- I guess it was just a comforting time in my childhood and I remember everything from that time period fondly.

I remember 96-97 the best - Grant Hill was a top 3 player that year. Basically him surrounded with shooting was enough to win 54 games- and we were even better than that before the All-Star Break. We were so good before the break that old-man Dumars was picked as an all star injury replacement. It was a team weirdly ahead of it's time- though admittedly helped by the moved up 3 point line. If we'd kept Allan Houston the offseason before we might have been even better- might have even been able to build upon that core- you never know.

I doubt Cade will take 33, but that would be cool.

I do think that number should be retired, but I understand why it hasn't happened.
That number will never be retired here unless Cade takes it, and becomes a star.

Hill chose his vagabond career, he can live with it.

Yeah, I dunno, I guess my grudge level subsides after a decade or so. If yours doesn't, that's fine.
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Re: New Jersey’s for 21-22 season 

Post#25 » by The Moose » Sat Jul 3, 2021 12:47 am

For me, if we are going to keep the colour scheme I would like to return to the horse head logo for sure. My very earliest memories of watching the pistons was the 05 finals. To my 7-8 year old self the logo was a big deal lol.

But yes there is a big nostalgia proponent for me, not so much for the teal but the logo it’s associated with. I’m not a fan at all of the last 2 logos we have used, I really want to move away from the circle/basketball shape
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Re: New Jersey’s for 21-22 season 

Post#26 » by zeebneeb » Sat Jul 3, 2021 1:11 am

The Moose wrote:For me, if we are going to keep the colour scheme I would like to return to the horse head logo for sure. My very earliest memories of watching the pistons was the 05 finals. To my 7-8 year old self the logo was a big deal lol.

But yes there is a big nostalgia proponent for me, not so much for the teal but the logo it’s associated with. I’m not a fan at all of the last 2 logos we have used, I really want to move away from the circle/basketball shape
I can understand wanting to move away from the basketball logo as its very generic. It's common. The one I would love to see is a return to the fort Wayne Zolner Pistons logo.

Seems like the perfect time to bring it back for the new generation.
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Re: New Jersey’s for 21-22 season 

Post#27 » by DBC10 » Sat Jul 3, 2021 1:49 am

I wouldn't mind teal as an alternate home/away variant since it's something new that the league isn't really experimenting much with. It's a classic unique color in general too, which I wholly appreciate.

One thing we definitely need to do is update the logo though, a generic, dollar store basketball is basically what we use as the logo now. Either don't even use a logo anymore (opting for just a "PISTONS" font) or update it with something a little more unique and modern. Right now it's neither modern or unique especially the color choices being used.

It's a perfect time for anything new too, since it's the first time in eons we got a 1st pick and someone to spend it on in Cade
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Post#29 » by Pharaoh » Sat Jul 3, 2021 4:47 am

Manocad wrote:Image
This or something very close to it.

Someone posted those designs ages ago, can't recall who

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Post#30 » by Manocad » Sat Jul 3, 2021 5:26 am

roccdogg did the design; I put it on the t-shirt
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Re: New Jersey’s for 21-22 season 

Post#31 » by Snakebites » Sat Jul 3, 2021 5:34 am

Miss that guy.
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Re: New Jersey’s for 21-22 season 

Post#32 » by The Moose » Sat Jul 3, 2021 6:28 am

Manocad wrote:roccdogg did the design; I put it on the t-shirt


And it makes a nice avatar :lol:
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Re: New Jersey’s for 21-22 season 

Post#33 » by Pharaoh » Sat Jul 3, 2021 7:14 am

Snakebites wrote:Miss that guy.
Where'd he go?

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Re: New Jersey’s for 21-22 season 

Post#34 » by Snakebites » Sat Jul 3, 2021 7:23 am

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Snakebites wrote:Miss that guy.
Where'd he go?

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No idea- I didn't know the guy personally.

Posters come and go, I suppose.
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Re: New Jersey’s for 21-22 season 

Post#35 » by JNewton » Sat Jul 3, 2021 3:09 pm

zeebneeb wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
bstein14 wrote:Not sure why, but I am kind of hoping Cade takes #33. Would be interesting to see another young superstar in Detroit with #33.

I was 11 years old when we drafted Grant Hill it was those teal years that I really feel in love with basketball and playing the Pistons. I had the teal #33 jersey, went to my first Pistons games, drank the Sprite, wore the Filas. There is strangely a bit of nostalgia for that era even though we weren't very good. Grant, Hunter, Terry Mills, Ratliff.

There are a lot of millenials- it's a very big generation. That's why 90s nostalgia is such a big thing. I have a lot of nostalgia for it too, even though the era after it was far more successful- I guess it was just a comforting time in my childhood and I remember everything from that time period fondly.

I remember 96-97 the best - Grant Hill was a top 3 player that year. Basically him surrounded with shooting was enough to win 54 games- and we were even better than that before the All-Star Break. We were so good before the break that old-man Dumars was picked as an all star injury replacement. It was a team weirdly ahead of it's time- though admittedly helped by the moved up 3 point line. If we'd kept Allan Houston the offseason before we might have been even better- might have even been able to build upon that core- you never know.

I doubt Cade will take 33, but that would be cool.

I do think that number should be retired, but I understand why it hasn't happened.
That number will never be retired here unless Cade takes it, and becomes a star.

Hill chose his vagabond career, he can live with it.


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Re: New Jersey’s for 21-22 season 

Post#36 » by JNewton » Sat Jul 3, 2021 3:13 pm

DBC10 wrote:One thing we definitely need to do is update the logo though, a generic, dollar store basketball is basically what we use as the logo now. Either don't even use a logo anymore (opting for just a "PISTONS" font) or update it with something a little more unique and modern. Right now it's neither modern or unique especially the color choices being used.

It's a perfect time for anything new too, since it's the first time in eons we got a 1st pick and someone to spend it on in Cade


I actually really like the current logo - it's a perfect mashup of the Bad Boys and Goin' To Work era logos, IMO. One of the few branding/design things the Pistons got right during the 2010s. Besides being a basketball (and having a basketball in the primary logo is or at least was an NBA requirement at one point), the Bad Boys era logo was also intended to be an overhead view of a piston firing in a cylinder.
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Post#37 » by Manocad » Sat Jul 3, 2021 3:30 pm

JNewton wrote:
DBC10 wrote:One thing we definitely need to do is update the logo though, a generic, dollar store basketball is basically what we use as the logo now. Either don't even use a logo anymore (opting for just a "PISTONS" font) or update it with something a little more unique and modern. Right now it's neither modern or unique especially the color choices being used.

It's a perfect time for anything new too, since it's the first time in eons we got a 1st pick and someone to spend it on in Cade


I actually really like the current logo - it's a perfect mashup of the Bad Boys and Goin' To Work era logos, IMO. One of the few branding/design things the Pistons got right during the 2010s. Besides being a basketball (and having a basketball in the primary logo is or at least was an NBA requirement at one point), the Bad Boys era logo was also intended to be an overhead view of a piston firing in a cylinder.

Yeah, I like the current logo too although it's basically just the '79-'96 logo with a font change.

I really don't have a lot of passion about what the jerseys or the logo look look like in the grand scheme; if the team is entertaining I'll still watch the games even if the players are all wearing checkered aprons. There really are only two things that bug me--particular colors (NOT a teal fan) and stripes in the wrong location/orientation. I did NOT like the dual racing stripes down the middle jerseys. Looks great on a '69 Camaro but a jersey? Not so much IMO.
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