Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri

[WindyCityBorn]

I think he's going to be a solid rotational player, either as a fill-in starter or bench player, not one of the stars of a team. He finishes at an extremely high rate both at the rim and from the 3, which is modern NBA scoring. His 62% TS isn't far from Lavine's 63%, and he's 24. He'll look much better on almost any other team, since we have the league's worst PG situation by a mile. He'll probably get stronger, better on D, and the game will slow down for him.

I think when he walks, we''ll will wish he was back on the team after 1 or 2 contracts. So in other words, he's a prototypical Chicago Bull.

Good analysis although I see his ceiling as higher than you. Can you be a 2nd option and not a star?

But yeah, despite what his haters keep on repeating ad nauseam on this board, he'll be sorely missed after he walks.

No he won’t.

[dougthonus]

Here are some restrictive FA Trades I found:

The Indiana Pacers announced Saturday they have acquired guard Malcolm Brogdon from the Milwaukee Bucks in exchange for a future first round draft pick, as well as two future second round draft picks.

The Golden State Warriors have managed to loop the Minnesota Timberwolves in on the sign-and-trade deal that will send D’Angelo Russell to the Bay Area Per ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski, the Warriors and Brooklyn Nets have outlined a sign-and-trade deal that will deliver Russell to Golden State on a four-year, $117 million deal. The sign-and-trade deal will include Golden State sending a protected future first-rounder to Brooklyn and re-routing Shabazz Napier, Treveon Graham and cash to the Timberwolves.

Terry Rozier Traded by the Boston Celtics with a 2020 2nd round draft pick (Grant Riller was later selected) to the Charlotte Hornets for Kemba Walker and a 2020 2nd round draft pick (Yam Madar was later selected). (2020 second-round pick is BRK's or NYK's, whichever is least favorable.) (top-53 protected)

The Chicago Bulls announced today that the team has acquired guard Tomas Satoransky (Thomas Sah-tore-RAN-skee) from the Washington Wizards in a sign-and-trade agreement. Chicago conveyed future draft considerations to Washington as part of the trade.

Walking through these examples:
Indiana / Milwaukee was a real S&T where the Bucks got something because the Pacers were scared of a match.

The Russell trade was one where the Nets couldn't keep Russell anyway and would have had to renounce him, and the Warriors just had to decide whether they wanted him with KD leaving or not, but no one really got anything (the 1st rounder in it was so protected it had a near zero chance of conveying).

The Rozier trade was a similar situation as the Warriors deal, the Celtics were signing Walker and couldn't keep Rozier.

The final one was for a future 2nd rounder

If we apply these scenarios to the Warriors: We might S&T Lauri to a team that we sign their FA from and make it a trade in order to help both sides. We might get a future 2nd rounder. Unlikely that Lauri carries the value of Brogdon or that anyone thinks we'll really match an offer to give up a 1st.

[transplant]

At Markkanen's size, he has some nice skills. He's a career 19-9 player per 36. That's production, not potential. He made 40% of his 3s this season. That's better than the great Kristaps Porzingis. He's played on teams with PGs that suck. I don't expect him to be a star, but on the right team, he has the ability to put up numbers that will make us wonder, "where was this when you were here?"

Oh, and I completely expect him to be gone.

[Louri]

Little birds told that Spurs is still number 1 for him. He also has said in latest interviews that "he understands now business side of NBA. First 2 years he didn't." That kind of means 99% he won't be in Bulls uniform next year.

[TeamMan]

I posted this question in another thread, but wanted to know...what do you think of Lauri Markkanen going forward? Have you moved on with him as a Chicago Bull? If so, what do you think the team can get for him in a trade? Or do you think he still has a future with the team?

What do you think of his future in the NBA? My take is that he still can be a valuable player in the right situation provided he can stay healthy. He's only 24 years old and has shown some potential.

WOW!

You read my mind.

After watching Jimmy Butler go to the finals last season, and it appears that Portis will go to the finals this year, it made me think about how many Bulls drafted players have gone to the finals.

And who will be next.

So, my answer is that my full expectation for Lauri is that he will, during his career, go to the NBA finals with a team other than the Bulls. Most likely coming of the bench like Portis.

And unfortunately, I expect the same thing to happen with Coby White.

[GoBlue72391]

Little birds told that Spurs is still number 1 for him. He also has said in latest interviews that "he understands now business side of NBA. First 2 years he didn't." That kind of means 99% he won't be in Bulls uniform next year.

The last most recent tidbit this board heard from a supposed Lauri insider is that he loves Chicago and his teammates and is seriously considering taking the QO against the advice of his agent, and now this goes totally against that.

I feel like people with supposed sources should have to verify/disclose them to a mod or something before posting them on the board, otherwise occam's razor says this is people just making stuff up.

Not directed at you personally, just addressing rumors in general.

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[Louri]

Little birds told that Spurs is still number 1 for him. He also has said in latest interviews that "he understands now business side of NBA. First 2 years he didn't." That kind of means 99% he won't be in Bulls uniform next year.

The last most recent tidbit this board heard from a supposed Lauri insider is that he loves Chicago and his teammates and is seriously considering taking the QO against the advice of his agent, and now this goes totally against that.

I feel like people with supposed sources should have to verify/disclose them to a mod or something before posting them on the board, otherwise occam's razor says this is people just making stuff up.

Not directed at you personally, just addressing rumors in general.

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I've said from last year that I've heard Spurs is number 1 option and it still is from what I've heard. Money also matters. Lauri is in his hometown atm working out. I don't know about other "sources" and don't care. What comes to my "other" source "he understands now business side of NBA. First 2 years he didn't.". It's from finnish podcast recorded 17.6 "Keskelle keksintöä". Statement is from his own mouth. Lauri was guest there. Lauri could have politic career with his answers but you can read a bit between the lines. "First I did believe everything said but now I can read business side of it. There will be words outside of truth."He is still looking balance between being a team player and a selfish. In this podcast he does make it sure not to critize any teammates.

[CobyWhite0]

Little birds told that Spurs is still number 1 for him. He also has said in latest interviews that "he understands now business side of NBA. First 2 years he didn't." That kind of means 99% he won't be in Bulls uniform next year.

The last most recent tidbit this board heard from a supposed Lauri insider is that he loves Chicago and his teammates and is seriously considering taking the QO against the advice of his agent, and now this goes totally against that.

I feel like people with supposed sources should have to verify/disclose them to a mod or something before posting them on the board, otherwise occam's razor says this is people just making stuff up.

Not directed at you personally, just addressing rumors in general.

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Eh, the way I figure it, if you take anything you read here from an "inside source" (on a fan site) with more than a tiny grain of salt, you'll probably believe anything anyway.

[dice]

clearly based on recent patterns if we re-sign lauri he will fail to live up to the contract. whereas if he signs elsewhere he will become an all-star

[dice]

I think he's going to be a solid rotational player, either as a fill-in starter or bench player, not one of the stars of a team. He finishes at an extremely high rate both at the rim and from the 3, which is modern NBA scoring. His 62% TS isn't far from Lavine's 63%, and he's 24. He'll look much better on almost any other team, since we have the league's worst PG situation by a mile. He'll probably get stronger, better on D, and the game will slow down for him.

I think when he walks, we''ll will wish he was back on the team after 1 or 2 contracts. So in other words, he's a prototypical Chicago Bull.

Good analysis although I see his ceiling as higher than you. Can you be a 2nd option and not a star?

But yeah, despite what his haters keep on repeating ad nauseam on this board, he'll be sorely missed after he walks.

No he won’t.

can't miss someone who didn't do much for you

[CobyWhite0]

Good analysis although I see his ceiling as higher than you. Can you be a 2nd option and not a star?

But yeah, despite what his haters keep on repeating ad nauseam on this board, he'll be sorely missed after he walks.

No he won’t.

can't miss someone who didn't do much for you

The final third of the season, he was coming off the bench for roughly 21 min/game.

It's pretty hard to miss a guy that much when he's only playing 21 minutes.

[xpmar9x]

There's a thread about Lauris S&T value on the trades forum... lots of intriguing ones. Jalen Brunson, Derrick White, & Devonte Graham were some names. If we could flip Lauri for a potential starting PG that would be huge.

[GoBlue72391]

clearly based on recent patterns if we re-sign lauri he will fail to live up to the contract. whereas if he signs elsewhere he will become an all-star

Schrödinger's Lauri

[Sinistar6]

Lonzo opens him up IMO.

We can’t acquire Lonzo in free agency and keep Lauri.

See ya later marks!

[dougthonus]

clearly based on recent patterns if we re-sign lauri he will fail to live up to the contract. whereas if he signs elsewhere he will become an all-star

Not sure if you're just joking, but who are the Bulls that left to become all-stars?

[Grodoboldo]

I seriously don't get how people still want to talk about Lauri.
I can sum up my thoughts on him in a simple sentence: I don't want him back and would try to get back absolutely anything I could in a S&T.

[sco]

There's a thread about Lauris S&T value on the trades forum... lots of intriguing ones. Jalen Brunson, Derrick White, & Devonte Graham were some names. If we could flip Lauri for a potential starting PG that would be huge.

The ONLY way a S&T happens is if Lauri wants to go to the S&T team and the S&T team is willing to pay Lauri what he wants and (for the most part) that he S&T team doesn't have the cap space. For example SA has the cap space. To get anything more than a 2nd round pick back, there'd need to be competition for Lauri in a S&T (ie 2 teams that Lauri would be ok going to) - highly unlikely.

Lauri is likely gone and we're very likely getting nothing back - folks need to move on.

[Rose2Boozer]

Lauri Markkanen is pretty much a shooting specialist backup center. He'll probably get a nice pay day somewhere, and then get placed in the Kelly Olynyk and Frank Kaminsky box.

[MrSparkle]

$15m would be a good resign (assuming we operate over the cap; no UFA plans).

Any more and good luck.

Still have no idea what happens with him. Bad fit with Vuc and Theis but at the same time... he’s a shooter, and with Coby down, that’s one less 3p specialist.

[khufure]

I think he's going to be a solid rotational player, either as a fill-in starter or bench player, not one of the stars of a team. He finishes at an extremely high rate both at the rim and from the 3, which is modern NBA scoring. His 62% TS isn't far from Lavine's 63%, and he's 24. He'll look much better on almost any other team, since we have the league's worst PG situation by a mile. He'll probably get stronger, better on D, and the game will slow down for him.

I think when he walks, we''ll will wish he was back on the team after 1 or 2 contracts. So in other words, he's a prototypical Chicago Bull.

this is the offensive side of the story. I'd like to add Lauri seems unable to understand when he has an advantage and press it. if he's got a 6ft guy on him he'll probably pass it out 9 times out of 10.

there's the rebounding and team defense and individual defense where he's basically shown zero aptitude or desire to improve.