2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[bluerap23]

We walk with

Flynn/Giddey
Trent
OG
Williams/Mobley
Wiseman

No thanks. Also Houston gets off of Gordon’s contract and goes from 2 to Wiggins, 4, and 7? That’s too much for them considering 2 vs 4 isn’t that significant

Also, do not want Satoransky playing in Toronto after yesterday lol

How about this? Instead of 4 and 7 they get 4 and GSW's pick next year. Looking at the haul Vucevic and Jrue fetched that is fair. We also get a pick from Chicago (as suggested by bulls fan above). Satoransky, Gordon and Aminu can all be moved at some point for 2nd rounders.

[DreamTeam09]

Patrick Williams isn't that good. He doesn't have the offensive game to be a go to SF, I'd much rather OG over Williams. I'd rather have Wiggins + pick than Williams + scrubs.

[Asif16]

Not sure where all this love for Patrick Williams is coming from.

Fred Vanvleet is worlds better and on a different tier.

[bluerap23]

It's 2022 FRP from Bulls with Pat.

[Bruin]

Boucher, Hood, 46,47 for Myles Turner

[douggood]

Boucher, Hood, 46,47 for Myles Turner

This will never happen equivalent of raptors accepting Offers of fvv for Dennis Smith Jr and 2 seconds plus salary filler.

[Bruin]

What do you guys think of a deal with Brooklyn targeting Claxton for Boucher?

Maybe something like Claxton + 27 for Boucher + Watson?

Claxton is a nice young Center who we could develop nicely I think. And Brooklyn benefits with Boucher since they’re in win now mode

[hyper316]

What do you guys think of a deal with Brooklyn targeting Claxton for Boucher?

Maybe something like Claxton + 27 for Boucher + Watson?

Claxton is a nice young Center who we could develop nicely I think. And Brooklyn benefits with Boucher since they’re in win now mode

I forgot who on nets quoted before the season started that Claxton was most talented on the team other than Durant (I remember I raised an eyebrow if that person purposely didn't mention Kyrie) someone seems to be really high on Claxton, no sure they would give him up for boucher

[douggood]

What do you guys think of a deal with Brooklyn targeting Claxton for Boucher?

Maybe something like Claxton + 27 for Boucher + Watson?

Claxton is a nice young Center who we could develop nicely I think. And Brooklyn benefits with Boucher since they’re in win now mode

overrating Boucher way to much
27th is closer to his fair value, but expecting 27 and claxton not happening

plus they have have boucher elite in durant, claxton a rookie contract is worth much more than boucher expring.
plus how does this even work cap wise, boucher makes 7 mil claxton is basically a minimum salary.

[WaltFrazier]

In general, how unusual was it that Boston traded Kemba for Horford so early in the playoffs? Before that happened I assumes it wasn't even allowed, like other sports. Before the championship is over I mean. What are the odds of the Raps doing something during the Finals?

Part of me wants a sweep so we can get moving on the draft and other moves.

[douggood]

In general, how unusual was it that Boston traded Kemba for Horford so early in the playoffs? Before that happened I assumes it wasn't even allowed, like other sports. Before the championship is over I mean. What are the odds of the Raps doing something during the Finals?

Part of me wants a sweep so we can get moving on the draft and other moves.

first time i became aware that teams could do trades during playoffs was a raptors trade, we traded for rasho nestrovic during the finals.

and this just a couple weeks before the draft we had #1 pick and selected andrea bargnani. so we have bosh, bargs and rasho.
we also had charlie v, who we drafted the year before. so of course with 4 bigs, now bc trades CV for tj ford.

seriously BC was mindboggling, then next season traded rasho part of package (tj ford, draft pick (roy hibbert)) for jermaine oneal

then jermaine oneal doesnt work with bosh/bargs so traded him and our own pick that became (5th overall JV) to maimi for marion. (got pick back in s&t for bosh)

now marion non shooting isnt wokring out so we trade marion for hedo turkolu
now hedo doesnt want to be here trade him for barbosa

BC was master of trying to fix one hole by creating 2 others. so when everyone complains about Masai and co always "evaluating" i remember the BC era and love the "evaluating"

[Morris_Shatford]

In general, how unusual was it that Boston traded Kemba for Horford so early in the playoffs? Before that happened I assumes it wasn't even allowed, like other sports. Before the championship is over I mean. What are the odds of the Raps doing something during the Finals?

Part of me wants a sweep so we can get moving on the draft and other moves.

It happens, just not all that often.
I think the last time we did it was the Evans / Kapono deal with the Sixers which I think happened during the NBA Finals?

I think most of the deals the Raps may make will largely revolve around the draft and usually those deals are made on draft day so we may have some weeks to go.

[Rapsfan07]

In general, how unusual was it that Boston traded Kemba for Horford so early in the playoffs? Before that happened I assumes it wasn't even allowed, like other sports. Before the championship is over I mean. What are the odds of the Raps doing something during the Finals?

Part of me wants a sweep so we can get moving on the draft and other moves.

It happens, just not all that often.
I think the last time we did it was the Evans / Kapono deal with the Sixers which I think happened during the NBA Finals?

I think most of the deals the Raps may make will largely revolve around the draft and usually those deals are made on draft day so we may have some weeks to go.

The CBA allows trades after both teams are no longer in the playoffs. It doesn't happen often but it can

[KL78192020]

Raptors need to take a flier on Harry Giles, feel like he just needs a chance and some minutes. He was hindered by injuries but is finally healthy.

[douggood]

Raptors need to take a flier on Harry Giles, feel like he just needs a chance and some minutes. He was hindered by injuries but is finally healthy.

didnt we say the same thing last offseason, signs with portland, nurkic gets injured, zack collins is out for season they have no bigs outside of kanter and giles and he still doesnt crack the rotation. they were playing melo/jones jr/covington at center instead of giles.

[KL78192020]

Raptors need to take a flier on Harry Giles, feel like he just needs a chance and some minutes. He was hindered by injuries but is finally healthy.

didnt we say the same thing last offseason, signs with portland, nurkic gets injured, zack collins is out for season they have no bigs outside of kanter and giles and he still doesnt crack the rotation. they were playing melo/jones jr/covington at center instead of giles.

Yea not sure what it is with him, but he looked decent in the minutes he played. Plays within the scheme of the team. Blazers were in win now mode, probably didn't want to risk him playing.

[douggood]

Raptors need to take a flier on Harry Giles, feel like he just needs a chance and some minutes. He was hindered by injuries but is finally healthy.

didnt we say the same thing last offseason, signs with portland, nurkic gets injured, zack collins is out for season they have no bigs outside of kanter and giles and he still doesnt crack the rotation. they were playing melo/jones jr/covington at center instead of giles.

Yea not sure what it is with him, but he looked decent in the minutes he played. Plays within the scheme of the team. Blazers were in win now mode, probably didn't want to risk him playing.

the league must know something, there must be something about his makeup, bad teammate, doesn't work hard etc.
went lower in draft than expected.
sac gives up on him after 2 years.
signs just a minimum contract, and still disappoints.

i am chalking him up as the next perry jones III

[Morris_Shatford]

Would a framework deal that basically involved Boucher out and Yak in have any interest to anyone?

[RapsFanInOhio]

Would a framework deal that basically involved Boucher out and Yak in have any interest to anyone?

I see the rationale, but they would want more and that’s where I stop. Poeltl is a good player and they know that.

Assuming we don’t draft Mobley, I think we’re going to pickup a center in the 2nd round to compete with Gillespie. I think Birch is probably back, too. I would rather split the MLE between Birch and a guy like Isaiah Hartenstein, I think.

Siakam / Boucher / Yuta
Birch / Hartenstein / 2RP / Gillespie

Seems fine. A lot of people wouldn’t be happy with that, but it’s more competent than what we had last year. I’m banking that on Birch providing more value than what his contract would indicate though too, and Hartenstein is flying under the radar a bit.

I will also say that I think they would pick Mobley over Suggs if both somehow happened to be available at 4.

[Merit]

Would a framework deal that basically involved Boucher out and Yak in have any interest to anyone?

I'd rather move all our expiring/un-guaranteed contracts in aggregate for Demar. This only happens if we snag Mobley.

Hood/Baynes/Boucher/Bembry for Demar Derozan.

Raps Roster:

Lowry/Flynn
FVV/GTJ/Watson
OG/Watanabe/46
Demar/Mobley (#4)
Siakam/Birch/Gillespie/47

Demar brings significant versatility and also a decent amount of spacing given that OG/Kyle/Pascal and GTJ can all shoot. Bench Mob 2.0 exists big time with Flynn/GTJ/Watanabe/Mobley/Birch being able to beat most crappy starting lineups. Raps could go big with a Lowry/OG/Demar/Pascal/Birch lineup. Raps can go with 4 shooters with Lowry/VanVleet/GTJ/OG/Pascal lineup. Lots of versatility, and the Raps get the shot creator and the storyline they need. Demar can be hidden defensively, and can also anchor a bench scoring unit. Would be an ideal person to drive and kick, and to slow down possessions with his free throw shooting. I happen to think that Nick Nurse would find all sorts of mid-range options for Demar and play him in the Marc Gasol role offensively.