Jalen Green - next elite prospect

[Big J]

Athleticism only does so much. Terrence Ross is a freak athlete too. But he’s been a career 6th man type. Green is gonna need to develop other parts of his game to separate himself from being just a scorer to being a legit star player

I think he will if put in the right situation and granted the patience. Cleveland is probably not a good a spot for him with sexton and the poor culture there

Houston or Toronto are probably his best landing spots long term

Cmon man. Terrence Ross is strictly a catch & shoot guy whereas Green actually has a handle and an impressive set of moves. He's gonna be a stud day 1 no matter where he lands.

Ross is not a catch and shoot guy

I don’t doubt Green is a great scorer. But what else is he? Just putting up points isn’t enough for me to consider a player a star

I need impact. Playmaking and/or defense needs to be a part of the players skill set

His game is absolutely electrifying. You guys experienced this in the early part of Vince's career. One big dunk will set the crowd off and the next thing you know you're up by 20 points. He has better athletic gifts than 99% of the league, and he's just got that "IT" factor to him. He's also got a great personality, not a dud like Cade, and he's bound to be a fan favorite. The playmaking and defense will come with reps and film study. The kid has shown that he's a hard worker, and wants to get better.

[Bruin]

Cmon man. Terrence Ross is strictly a catch & shoot guy whereas Green actually has a handle and an impressive set of moves. He's gonna be a stud day 1 no matter where he lands.

Ross is not a catch and shoot guy

I don’t doubt Green is a great scorer. But what else is he? Just putting up points isn’t enough for me to consider a player a star

I need impact. Playmaking and/or defense needs to be a part of the players skill set

His game is absolutely electrifying. You guys experienced this in the early part of Vince's career. One big dunk will set the crowd off and the next thing you know you're up by 20 points. He has better athletic gifts than 99% of the league, and he's just got that "IT" factor to him. He's also got a great personality, not a dud like Wiggins, and he's bound to be a fan favorite. The playmaking and defense will come with reps and film study. The kid has shown that he's a hard worker, and wants to get better.

I totally agree that he’s a stud and will make huge electrifying plays

The last part you said is why I feel he’ll be able to develop his other stuff. I just hope it happens. I’d hate to see his game get limited if he doesn’t end up developing other facets to the game

If Raptors end up with him, I definitely won’t be upset since the upset is clearly high. And I do think Raptors would help get his playmaking and defensive development on track

Honestly all 3 of Green, Suggs, and Mobley are so intriguing that everyday I wake up with my eyes on a different one lol

[DCasey91]

They were slowing the game down for Green it’s a learning process but his uptick in development since High School screams special.

3x plays in a row at the same spot on the right wing (it’s in the vid highlight) with different avenues at third gear. Then the 4th and last one was just haha I’m too fast see you later. The kid has serious Top 1 rarest tier blend of
Lateral, straight, contorting whatever have you speed and velocity off the mark.

You seen Morant, or Kobe or MJ or even Zion? They go from 0 to 100 laterally, straight, up or down. They do not lose momentum in their shifts. Extremely loose hips.

In terms of functionally for an athlete its at the very very rare top shelf.

You know who Randy Moss is?

They have that thing where it looks effortless but is blinding how fast it is. Their max points they can get to quicker then peoples half steps so to speak.

Jalen Green is that. He’s already doing 3 movements before a defenders one when he jets off because their efficiency on their glitch speed movements is astounding.

Also he has the long stride thing that all top shelf functional athletes have.

He’s actually better mover then Edwards is but Edwards has the weight adv. You’ll 100% see when Green gets naturally weight added on.

It’ll be a Green Light Bulb moment where it’s like I can go for 30 and breeze through the defense like a hot knife through butter.

Then there’s someone like Wiggins. Massive differences everywhere.

Cade has been Cade for a lot longer if you catch my drift.

Green was learning on his shot in high school

Now in the G league he’s working on his halfcourt and playmaking skills, defense too.

You wait three years time and 15+ pounds that’s it.

He’s a taller Beal with Morant float in the sky athleticism with a better shot and less passing ability.

That is a surefire special player.

Winning or value be damned lol.

[Big J]

Ross is not a catch and shoot guy

I don’t doubt Green is a great scorer. But what else is he? Just putting up points isn’t enough for me to consider a player a star

I need impact. Playmaking and/or defense needs to be a part of the players skill set

His game is absolutely electrifying. You guys experienced this in the early part of Vince's career. One big dunk will set the crowd off and the next thing you know you're up by 20 points. He has better athletic gifts than 99% of the league, and he's just got that "IT" factor to him. He's also got a great personality, not a dud like Wiggins, and he's bound to be a fan favorite. The playmaking and defense will come with reps and film study. The kid has shown that he's a hard worker, and wants to get better.

I totally agree that he’s a stud and will make huge electrifying plays

The last part you said is why I feel he’ll be able to develop his other stuff. I just hope it happens. I’d hate to see his game get limited if he doesn’t end up developing other facets to the game

If Raptors end up with him, I definitely won’t be upset since the upset is clearly high. And I do think Raptors would help get his playmaking and defensive development on track

Honestly all 3 of Green, Suggs, and Mobley are so intriguing that everyday I wake up with my eyes on a different one lol

Yea, I think you guys will be happy with whoever you get, but Green is likely going to be the most exciting & fun to watch. Especially out of the gate. I could see him blowing up Twitter nightly.

[Big J]

They were slowing the game down for Green it’s a learning process but his uptick in development since High School screams special.

3x plays in a row at the same spot on the right wing (it’s in the vid highlight) with different avenues at third gear. Then the 4th and last one was just haha I’m too fast see you later. The kid has serious Top 1 rarest tier blend of
Lateral, straight, contorting whatever have you speed and velocity off the mark.

You seen Morant, or Kobe or MJ or even Zion? They go from 0 to 100 laterally, straight, up or down. They do not lose momentum in their shifts. Extremely loose hips.

In terms of functionally for an athlete its at the very very rare top shelf.

You know who Randy Moss is?

They have that thing where it looks effortless but is blinding how fast it is. Their max points they can get to quicker then peoples half steps so to speak.

Jalen Green is that. He’s already doing 3 movements before a defenders one when he jets off because their efficiency on their glitch speed movements is astounding.

Also he has the long stride thing that all top shelf functional athletes have.

He’s actually better mover then Edwards is but Edwards has the weight adv. You’ll 100% see when Green gets naturally weight added on.

It’ll be a Green Light Bulb moment where it’s like I can go for 30 and breeze through the defense like a hot knife through butter.

Then there’s someone like Wiggins. Massive differences everywhere.

Cade has been Cade for a lot longer if you catch my drift.

Green was learning on his shot in high school

Now in the G league he’s working on his halfcourt and playmaking skills, defense too.

You wait three years time and 15+ pounds that’s it.

He’s a taller Beal with Morant float in the sky athleticism with a better shot and less passing ability.

That is a surefire special player.

Winning or value be damned lol.

Yea man, I'm seeing the same damn thing. He reminds me of a 6'5 super athletic Durant. He's got those slithery moves that make the absolute best use of his athleticism. I just don't see how you could look at Cade & then look at Green and think, "yea, I'm going to draft the guy with a poor first step and dud personality".

[DCasey91]

I’d say Durant for me was the most naturally gifted scorer ever (dude was probably a walking bucket from the moment he picked up a ball). College he was something else. It’s effortless for him.

But the movements and the way they utilize what they have is similar. Durant was just haha halfcourt midrange jumpshot or 3ball pull up unblock able on repeat. It’s broken lol

Even after a serious injury he’s still the best scorer in the league bar none when it comes down to it.

20ppg is the magical marker here for a rookie. He’s 100% not Evans for that matter.

I’m guessing between 17-19ppg with more then a few eye popping games.

His ceiling and development trajectory is probably the highest in the class bar none.

Can’t wait to see him play though!

[Big J]

I’d say Durant for me was the most naturally gifted scorer ever (dude was probably a walking bucket from the moment he picked up a ball). College he was something else. It’s effortless for him.

But the movements and the way they utilize what they have is similar. Durant was just haha halfcourt midrange jumpshot or 3ball pull up unblock able on repeat. It’s broken lol

Even after a serious injury he’s still the best scorer in the league bar none when it comes down to it.

20ppg is the magical marker here for a rookie. He’s 100% not Evans for that matter.

I’m guessing between 17-19ppg with more then a few eye popping games.

His ceiling and development trajectory is probably the highest in the class bar none.

Can’t wait to see him play though!

Yea, I could see 17-19, but that's only if he's being severely under utilized or the team is trying to bring him along slowly and let him earn his stripes. If his team actually gives him the reigns on day one I think he could do 23-25 ppg as a rook.

[chaimer]

Will Houston pick Green over Mobley? I would.

[DCasey91]

Will Houston pick Green over Mobley? I would.

There’s a lot of merit to both but a backcourt of KPJ and Green? That’s way too tempting to pass up.
Talk about dynamic. That’s going to be a handful!

Though I believe Green is live for Detroit

[Marcus]

so am i the only one concerned with how well two not quite combo guards would fair together in Houston with Porter and Green in the same backcourt? Granted Jalen is a better cutter than he gets credit for and KPJ is a better passer than he gets credit for but the development of one stunts the other if they're together this early does it not? Later on down the line once things are fully fleshed out i see that combo working. but this early in the development might be too soon no?

[Roger Murdock]

so am i the only one concerned with how well two not quite combo guards would fair together in Houston with Porter and Green in the same backcourt? Granted Jalen is a better cutter than he gets credit for and KPJ is a better passer than he gets credit for but the development of one stunts the other if they're together this early does it not? Later on down the line once things are fully fleshed out i see that combo working. but this early in the development might be too soon no?

KPj is incredibly talented but a major screw up and I wouldn’t bank on him long term

[Marcus]

so am i the only one concerned with how well two not quite combo guards would fair together in Houston with Porter and Green in the same backcourt? Granted Jalen is a better cutter than he gets credit for and KPJ is a better passer than he gets credit for but the development of one stunts the other if they're together this early does it not? Later on down the line once things are fully fleshed out i see that combo working. but this early in the development might be too soon no?

KPj is incredibly talented but a major screw up and I wouldn’t bank on him long term

fair enough, though i'm hoping he's well passed that phase and can just lock in on basketball. if you're looking at Jalen as an insurance policy for the in case of KPJ doing KPJ off the court things then i totally understand.

[EMG518]

so am i the only one concerned with how well two not quite combo guards would fair together in Houston with Porter and Green in the same backcourt? Granted Jalen is a better cutter than he gets credit for and KPJ is a better passer than he gets credit for but the development of one stunts the other if they're together this early does it not? Later on down the line once things are fully fleshed out i see that combo working. but this early in the development might be too soon no?

KPj is incredibly talented but a major screw up and I wouldn’t bank on him long term

fair enough, though i'm hoping he's well passed that phase and can just lock in on basketball. if you're looking at Jalen as an insurance policy for the in case of KPJ doing KPJ off the court things then i totally understand.

You have to just take best player available. You can't worry about fit in Houston with that team.

[Big J]

KPJ is a knucklehead. If I’m Hou I sign a vet like Lowry to show Green the ropes and turn KPJ into a 6th man so that Green has a positive influence next to him in the backcourt. The last thing they need is KPJ dragging this kid out to the strip clubs.

[Duke4life831]

so am i the only one concerned with how well two not quite combo guards would fair together in Houston with Porter and Green in the same backcourt? Granted Jalen is a better cutter than he gets credit for and KPJ is a better passer than he gets credit for but the development of one stunts the other if they're together this early does it not? Later on down the line once things are fully fleshed out i see that combo working. but this early in the development might be too soon no?

I sure as hell wouldn’t want those two sharing the back court. But that wouldn’t stop me from taking Green, I’d just look to have KPJ as my 6th man. And if he doesn’t buy into that, I’d just move him.

[Big J]

Yea I’m getting KPJ as far away from my rook as I can. He’s about the last guy I’d want my 19 year old prized asset hanging with. Lowry would be a nice father figure type for him to look up to.

[K_chile22]

Yea I’m getting KPJ as far away from my rook as I can. He’s about the last guy I’d want my 19 year old prized asset hanging with. Lowry would be a nice father figure type for him to look up to.

Jalen green
1. Is a grown man
2. Has a (step) father

Really hate when we act like these dudes need more dads to take care of them. Super weird.

[Big J]

Yea I’m getting KPJ as far away from my rook as I can. He’s about the last guy I’d want my 19 year old prized asset hanging with. Lowry would be a nice father figure type for him to look up to.

Jalen green
1. Is a grown man
2. Has a (step) father

Really hate when we act like these dudes need more dads to take care of them. Super weird.

He’s 19 years old man. I don’t know about you, but I was doing some crazy **** when I was that age. The last thing these kids need are bad influences in their lives. What’s wrong with having an extra vet in the locker room to show him the right way to do things?

[clyde21]

so am i the only one concerned with how well two not quite combo guards would fair together in Houston with Porter and Green in the same backcourt? Granted Jalen is a better cutter than he gets credit for and KPJ is a better passer than he gets credit for but the development of one stunts the other if they're together this early does it not? Later on down the line once things are fully fleshed out i see that combo working. but this early in the development might be too soon no?

I sure as hell wouldn’t want those two sharing the back court. But that wouldn’t stop me from taking Green, I’d just look to have KPJ as my 6th man. And if he doesn’t buy into that, I’d just move him.

yea, KPJ is nice but you don't pass on Green (if u really like him at 2) just b/c u have KPJ on the roster...and yea, I'd probably look to move KPJ at some point and move forward with Green as your primary scorer.

[clyde21]

Yea I’m getting KPJ as far away from my rook as I can. He’s about the last guy I’d want my 19 year old prized asset hanging with. Lowry would be a nice father figure type for him to look up to.

Jalen green
1. Is a grown man
2. Has a (step) father

Really hate when we act like these dudes need more dads to take care of them. Super weird.

He’s 19 years old man. I don’t know about you, but I was doing some crazy **** when I was that age. The last thing these kids need are bad influences in their lives. What’s wrong with having an extra vet in the locker room to show him the right way to do things?

yup, this is important, look at the influence Cp3 has had on Suns' young roster...getting a stabilizer in the locker room for a young team is crucial, especially a guy that Green can learn practice habits and how to prep game to game from.

doesn't have to be Lowry but a vet presence in general.