Vasa Micic Highest Paid EuroLeague Player: around €16.65M for all three years of the contract

[Mirotic12]

The article is pretty clear.
Your agenda is constant throughout the years.
You’re disingenuous.
But good for you. You really believe in the Euroleague and want it be bigger.
Read the article it’s pretty long so I know you didn’t. It’s all laid by euro hoops. Euroleague official page has the same info.

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/trademarks/909850/the-top-10-euroleague-salaries-of-2019-20/

And like in last year’s list, the reported sums are the net salaries. Due to the various tax laws in Europe, it’s hard to calculate the gross amount of each contract, and in many cases, the tax is almost equal to the net salary.

Furthermore, the Euro is not the official currency in countries like Israel, Russia, and Turkey. That’s why many of the EuroLeague deals are made in US dollars. In order to avoid confusion and to have an easier comparison to NBA contracts, all salaries are calculated in US dollars. With that been said, if you want to compare with NBA contracts, the easiest way is to double the amount of money mentioned, due to US taxes.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm not going to waste any more time arguing over something that is a quite well known and basic fact.

[GYK]

The article is pretty clear.
Your agenda is constant throughout the years.
You’re disingenuous.
But good for you. You really believe in the Euroleague and want it be bigger.
Read the article it’s pretty long so I know you didn’t. It’s all laid by euro hoops. Euroleague official page has the same info.

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/trademarks/909850/the-top-10-euroleague-salaries-of-2019-20/

And like in last year’s list, the reported sums are the net salaries. Due to the various tax laws in Europe, it’s hard to calculate the gross amount of each contract, and in many cases, the tax is almost equal to the net salary.

Furthermore, the Euro is not the official currency in countries like Israel, Russia, and Turkey. That’s why many of the EuroLeague deals are made in US dollars. In order to avoid confusion and to have an easier comparison to NBA contracts, all salaries are calculated in US dollars. With that been said, if you want to compare with NBA contracts, the easiest way is to double the amount of money mentioned, due to US taxes.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm not going to waste any more time arguing over something that is a quite well known and basic fact.

That multiplier is nonsense sir. The article just said “Some reports mention that Nikola Mirotic is getting paid $5,400,000 to $4,400,000 per season, but as per Eurohoops.com, a more realistic number with taxes included is in the $3.8 million to $4 million range.” With taxes it was in the 3.8 to 4 million range.
You spout nonsense sir. They gave you their informed calculations as a European Basketball site and you chose to use this multiplier to beef of the contracts. Their team payroll isn’t significant enough for your agenda to even make sense. Please if you want to support European basketball understand lies isn’t the best way about it. Or at least better more reasonable lies. The title says 3 years for 16 million and you choose to round that up to 16 million per year. It’s an asinine fabrication.

[Mirotic12]

You spout nonsense sir. They gave you their informed calculations as a European Basketball site and you chose to use this multiplier to beef of the contracts. Their team payroll isn’t significant enough for your agenda to even make sense. Please if you want to support European basketball understand lies isn’t the best way about it. Or at least better more reasonable lies. The title says 3 years for 16 million and you choose to round that up to 16 million per year. It’s an asinine fabrication.

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/trademarks/909850/the-top-10-euroleague-salaries-of-2019-20/

And like in last year’s list, the reported sums are the net salaries. Due to the various tax laws in Europe, it’s hard to calculate the gross amount of each contract, and in many cases, the tax is almost equal to the net salary.

Furthermore, the Euro is not the official currency in countries like Israel, Russia, and Turkey. That’s why many of the EuroLeague deals are made in US dollars. In order to avoid confusion and to have an easier comparison to NBA contracts, all salaries are calculated in US dollars. With that been said, if you want to compare with NBA contracts, the easiest way is to double the amount of money mentioned, due to US taxes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm going to put you on ignore for now. You have definitely earned it.

[GYK]

You spout nonsense sir. They gave you their informed calculations as a European Basketball site and you chose to use this multiplier to beef of the contracts. Their team payroll isn’t significant enough for your agenda to even make sense. Please if you want to support European basketball understand lies isn’t the best way about it. Or at least better more reasonable lies. The title says 3 years for 16 million and you choose to round that up to 16 million per year. It’s an asinine fabrication.

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/trademarks/909850/the-top-10-euroleague-salaries-of-2019-20/

And like in last year’s list, the reported sums are the net salaries. Due to the various tax laws in Europe, it’s hard to calculate the gross amount of each contract, and in many cases, the tax is almost equal to the net salary.

Furthermore, the Euro is not the official currency in countries like Israel, Russia, and Turkey. That’s why many of the EuroLeague deals are made in US dollars. In order to avoid confusion and to have an easier comparison to NBA contracts, all salaries are calculated in US dollars. With that been said, if you want to compare with NBA contracts, the easiest way is to double the amount of money mentioned, due to US taxes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm going to put you on ignore for now. You have definitely earned it.

Your nonsense is consistent at least. Wrong as it might be in the face of experts you carry on. You’re a good solider.
Even the whole different currencies..if it’s reported in USD and given out why do you insist on the multiplier?! They already told you the number. They converted the amount for you.
Like your agenda doesn’t even work with the head cannon you laid out. It’s dumb.
Please have a good night.

[LuDux1]

Drazen Petrovic wasn't good enough for the NBA, according to hall of fame American basketball coach Rick Adelman, who coached Petrovic on the Blazers.

Petrovic was averaging 7 minutes a game with the Blazers, with Adelman as his coach. Seven minutes a game. That's what he thought Petrovic was, a 7 minute a game player. Just in case you didn't know, Rick Adelman was the coach of the Rockets when they traded Spanoulis to the Spurs.

Keep believing your alternate facts though.

12.6 minutes in first season, after Clyde Drexler, 7,4 minutes next year, when they traded 3rd SG previous season for Danny Ainge. Blazers were 60 win team

[HeartBreakKid]

I just felt the need to express my hate for using gross salaries in negotiations. It simply reflects strength of negotiating sides (gross usage where companies are simply being interested in cost control only and net salary usage revealing economies or industry niches where employees are stronger side).

To compare salaries across countries fairly, one needs to include rents and cost of living as well (not that it matters in sallaries amounting in millions, but it is vitally important to regular people).

100%. There are developers in San Fran who are accepting fully remote roles for 100k less. Moving to butt **** nowhere and saving so much CNN more money.

Right, I'm in software development industry myself and we are probably very mobile workforce in international terms even before COVID. I've worked in three different countries so far and gross salaries are totally useless data from employee perspective when making a decision to move or not.

In example, I've had same standard of living or arguably slightly better in Serbia where my gross salary was 3x less than current salary in Ireland. Difference in taxes, rents, medical insurance and scholarships for children can be crazy. Simply focusing on earning potential, best I've had was in GCC countries as UAE, Qatar or Oman where there's no tax and companies offer rent allowances + company cars. Ofcourse, for families quality of schools or cultural immersion for your kids sometimes outweighs financial gains, just like singletons might prefer better nightlife.

I spent couple of months in Bay Area (San Carlos) in 2018 and for family it was hard to make an argument for relocating from financial standpoint.

I save a ton living in Asia.

[Mirotic12]

12.6 minutes in first season, after Clyde Drexler, 7,4 minutes next year, when they traded 3rd SG previous season for Danny Ainge. Blazers were 60 win team

Exactly. Which means hall of fame American NBA coach Rick Adelman didn't think Drazen Petrovic was good enough to play more than 7 minutes a game in the NBA.

The NBA team Vassilis Spanoulis was on, had prime Tracy McGrady on it at the guard position (Spanoulis plays 1/2) and that same team also won 55 games.

It's virtually the same exact situation and scenario. If Drazen wasn't traded to the Nets, NBA fans to this day would be saying he was a scrub in the NBA that was a star in Europe but that couldn't hack it in the NBA. And supposed so-called European fans like UcanUwill would be saying that Drazen wasn't a real great player, because he couldn't prove anything in the NBA and only in Europe.

Also, it should be pointed out that the same Rick Adelman that benched Petrovic in the NBA, said that he saw no reason as to why Jeff Van Gundy had benched Spanoulis and that Spanoulis should have been playing on the Rockets. Adelman stated that when he was hired to replace Jeff Van Gundy as the team's head coach. He also wanted to keep Spanoulis to be the team's main point guard. Adelman is a hall of fame coach, and Van Gundy was fired by the Rockets right after the season in which he benched Spanoulis, and he never got hired by another NBA team.

https://www.espn.com/espn/wire?section=nba&id=2925983

He signed a three-year contract with the Rockets, and general manager Daryl Morey said Tuesday the club has no plans to release
him. Morey, coach Rick Adelman and Yao Ming have each called the guard and asked him to return.

The Rockets GM also disagreed with Jeff Van Gundy about Spanoulis.

https://www.chron.com/justice/amp/Adelman-knows-what-works-in-NBA-1615967.php

Morey's first summer in charge should include significant rebuilding. It probably won't because he apparently believes the roster needs nothing more than some tweaks.

He also believes that two players Van Gundy buried — Vassilis Spanoulis and Steve Novak — can be productive NBA players. Spanoulis is an especially interesting case. The Rockets need someone to penetrate the lane and make plays. Spanoulis does both those things well.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It's an enormous unfair and biased double standard that is being applied here by UcanUwill to Spanoulis, as opposed to Petrovic.

[LuDux1]

12.6 minutes in first season, after Clyde Drexler, 7,4 minutes next year, when they traded 3rd SG previous season for Danny Ainge. Blazers were 60 win team

Exactly. Which means hall of fame American NBA coach Rick Adelman didn't think Drazen Petrovic was good enough to play more than 7 minutes a game in the NBA.

7,4 > 7

No, he gave him more than 12 minutes and then found someone more suitable

[DaddyCool19]

You spout nonsense sir. They gave you their informed calculations as a European Basketball site and you chose to use this multiplier to beef of the contracts. Their team payroll isn’t significant enough for your agenda to even make sense. Please if you want to support European basketball understand lies isn’t the best way about it. Or at least better more reasonable lies. The title says 3 years for 16 million and you choose to round that up to 16 million per year. It’s an asinine fabrication.

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/trademarks/909850/the-top-10-euroleague-salaries-of-2019-20/

And like in last year’s list, the reported sums are the net salaries. Due to the various tax laws in Europe, it’s hard to calculate the gross amount of each contract, and in many cases, the tax is almost equal to the net salary.

Furthermore, the Euro is not the official currency in countries like Israel, Russia, and Turkey. That’s why many of the EuroLeague deals are made in US dollars. In order to avoid confusion and to have an easier comparison to NBA contracts, all salaries are calculated in US dollars. With that been said, if you want to compare with NBA contracts, the easiest way is to double the amount of money mentioned, due to US taxes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm going to put you on ignore for now. You have definitely earned it.

Your nonsense is consistent at least. Wrong as it might be in the face of experts you carry on. You’re a good solider.
Even the whole different currencies..if it’s reported in USD and given out why do you insist on the multiplier?! They already told you the number. They converted the amount for you.
Like your agenda doesn’t even work with the head cannon you laid out. It’s dumb.
Please have a good night.

Europeans always report salaries after tax. And if they are reported in € you have to convert that to USD and then you have to add the taxes.

So if someone in Europe earns 3M € after taxes, that's around 3,56M $. Then you have to consider the taxes in the US and that 3M € net is more like 6,5M $ pre taxes in the NBA, as salaries are reported before taxes in the NBA

[GYK]

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/trademarks/909850/the-top-10-euroleague-salaries-of-2019-20/

And like in last year’s list, the reported sums are the net salaries. Due to the various tax laws in Europe, it’s hard to calculate the gross amount of each contract, and in many cases, the tax is almost equal to the net salary.

Furthermore, the Euro is not the official currency in countries like Israel, Russia, and Turkey. That’s why many of the EuroLeague deals are made in US dollars. In order to avoid confusion and to have an easier comparison to NBA contracts, all salaries are calculated in US dollars. With that been said, if you want to compare with NBA contracts, the easiest way is to double the amount of money mentioned, due to US taxes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm going to put you on ignore for now. You have definitely earned it.

Your nonsense is consistent at least. Wrong as it might be in the face of experts you carry on. You’re a good solider.
Even the whole different currencies..if it’s reported in USD and given out why do you insist on the multiplier?! They already told you the number. They converted the amount for you.
Like your agenda doesn’t even work with the head cannon you laid out. It’s dumb.
Please have a good night.

Europeans always report salaries after tax. And if they are reported in € you have to convert that to USD and then you have to add the taxes.

So if someone in Europe earns 3M € after taxes, that's around 3,56M $. Then you have to consider the taxes in the US and that 3M € net is more like 6,5M $ pre taxes in the NBA, as salaries are reported before taxes in the NBA

The article and yourself already acknowledge with taxes it’s nearly identical with the net.
The amount reported was already converted and there’s no more to it.
The line y’all are obsessing over isn’t saying they actually made more. It’s what an nba comparative contract would possibly be. It’s not that he made the multiplier but what his value to Euroleague is in nba money(with no indication he would actually). If he made the multiplier they would have reported it.

[lamscott]

Shane Larkin making bread overseas. Good for him.

[Blame Rasho]

This guy is still around posting the same type of crap each year, jeez I thought he would have gone away when Vassilis Spanoulis finished his career, I guess he found some time not editing his endless wiki page while trying to pretending that he was so broken hearten because of his mommy. Yeah… 19 years later, don’t miss reading the stupidity here.

[Sedale Threatt]

Rasho! Where you been...

My favorite is how every little setback or screwup -- usually falling under the category of "you can't win them all" -- warrants an entire referendum on the NBA's validity, but when some end-of-the-bench scrub like Nico Mannion (20-21 scoring average: 3.1 ppg) goes off for 24 to drop Serbia, it's crickets. No agenda there at all.

[Saint Lazarus]

Bulls wanted him hard as well, but oh well, Spanoulis' shadow lives on, that guy was very influential in Europe among these players, and sadly he put NBA fear into a lot of these guys.

Vassilis Spanoulis and Vasa Micic have the same agent. And their agent has said before on numerous occasions that he would never let another of his biggest EuroLeague clients to go the NBA and have his career destroyed by a coach benching him without any justification or reason.

Because of what happened to Spanoulis in the NBA, Micic's agent will never let one of his big EuroLeague players go to any NBA team that doesn't guarantee him a major role in the team.

Read on Twitter

I remember seeing a couple of interviews where Sergio Llull said he was worried about signing with the Rockets, because of how they treated Spanoulis. He said something to the effect of (paraphrasing), Spanoulis is the best player in Europe and the Rockets wouldn't let him play when he went there, so because of that he had to be very careful about considering any offers or promises they made to him.

Whether NBA management and coaches realize it or not, how they treat European players is something that players in Europe pay attention to and remember. And it does have potential consequences.

NBA coaches and GMs are hardly losing sleep at night at the thought of not being able to bring in some 7th man from Lithuania.

They only care about the potential superstars (Luka, etc) and those stars will ALWAYS go to the NBA because that's where the money is.

If you're worried about getting benched, you're not relevant to anything anyway.

[Alatan]

Vasa Micic being the MVP just speaks of how low the league has fallen. The guy is one of the more useless players i have ever watched.

[the_other_guy]

Its 85 to 90 but its 40 minutes and even the stars dont get to play more than 30 and they also play lower tier domestic club teams so lesser mins in there also

Sure, but NBA regular season boredome fest is very demanding.

[AussieBuck]

For those wondering, OP makes this thread every year to try and convince Americans that Euro basketball is almost as good as the NBA. He does this because his Greek hero Spanoulis was one of the worst players in NBA history but has had a long Euro career.

Spanoulis was kinda like an old, giant headed Monta Ellis without any athleticism.

Thanasis >>>>>>> Spanoulis.

[Sgt Major]

Vasa Micic being the MVP just speaks of how low the league has fallen. The guy is one of the more useless players i have ever watched.

You obviously haven't watched him last two years.

[Alatan]

Vasa Micic being the MVP just speaks of how low the league has fallen. The guy is one of the more useless players i have ever watched.

You obviously haven't watched him last two years.

Watched him last night. Dude is awful. I wish i stayed in the sport. If Vasa is the MVP i would be the goat.

[ROA]

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/1225862/vasilije-micic-says-he-suffered-a-muscle-tear/