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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1181 » by RickyDizzle » Tue Jul 6, 2021 2:09 am

Hal14 wrote:
return2glory wrote:https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/2021-nba-mock-draft-espn-experts-latest-celtics-projection-second-round-pick

They have us taking Kessler Edwards here. That would be a nice pick at 45, but I'm but sure Edwards lasts that long.

Yeah I saw that. I wouldn't hate the pick at all if it's Edwards.

At the combine he didn't do much offensively, but he played outstanding defense. Hands down one of the best, most versatile defenders in the draft.


I like Kessler a lot. Could replace Semi right away and much more dynamic offensively/better shooter. Wouldn't be surprised if he quickly leapfrogged Grant/Parker and played some real minutes at the 4.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1182 » by RickyDizzle » Tue Jul 6, 2021 2:12 am

playa-hater wrote:
RickyDizzle wrote:So I think my board looks like this:

Guys I am happy with at 45:

Jt Thor
Tre Mann
Charles Bassey
Ayo dosunmu
Moses Wright
Kessler edwards
Vrenz Bleijenbergh
Dayron Sharpe
Herb Jones
Weiskamp

Guys I would like if they go undrafted:
Hurt
Jericho Sims
Nix
Boston
Ej Onu

I'm sure you guys will turn me on to some more folks to check out (like what happened with Moses wright the other day). About 2/3 of my first list will be gone late 1st or before us in the second, but you take the best one left.


good list though I think JT Thor is a near lock for rd 1. the rest is possible


Probably right on Thor. I wouldn't be surprised to see Utah sell pick 30 though either. They are going to be in tax hell once they try to resign Conley. I said this before on another thread but I suspect ingles/favors plus the 30th can be had for basically nothing.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1183 » by Hal14 » Tue Jul 6, 2021 2:59 am

Potential target with pick 45.



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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1184 » by Hal14 » Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:26 am

These are the 6 guys I think are the best players who would be the best fit for the C's and high probability of still being there at 45, ranked in no particular order:

Moses Wright
Santi Aldama
Herb Jones
Joe Wieskamp
Kessler Edwards
Vrenz Bleijenbergh
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Post#1185 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:39 am

Heard the team may be looking into yet another draft and stash with this 45 pick, to make room for Yam.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1186 » by playa-hater » Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:40 am

return2glory wrote:https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/2021-nba-mock-draft-espn-experts-latest-celtics-projection-second-round-pick

They have us taking Kessler Edwards here. That would be a nice pick at 45, but I'm but sure Edwards lasts that long.


No problem for us drafting my Ty Warren play a-like
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Post#1187 » by Feed Your Head » Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:42 am

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Heard the team may be looking into yet another draft and stash with this 45 pick, to make room for Yam.


Yeah, I’ve heard the same. Brad/Ime don’t want any more young guys that can’t contribute.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1188 » by playa-hater » Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:47 am

RickyDizzle wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
RickyDizzle wrote:So I think my board looks like this:

Guys I am happy with at 45:

Jt Thor
Tre Mann
Charles Bassey
Ayo dosunmu
Moses Wright
Kessler edwards
Vrenz Bleijenbergh
Dayron Sharpe
Herb Jones
Weiskamp

Guys I would like if they go undrafted:
Hurt
Jericho Sims
Nix
Boston
Ej Onu

I'm sure you guys will turn me on to some more folks to check out (like what happened with Moses wright the other day). About 2/3 of my first list will be gone late 1st or before us in the second, but you take the best one left.


good list though I think JT Thor is a near lock for rd 1. the rest is possible


Probably right on Thor. I wouldn't be surprised to see Utah sell pick 30 though either. They are going to be in tax hell once they try to resign Conley. I said this before on another thread but I suspect ingles/favors plus the 30th can be had for basically nothing.


I throw in some of my own money to make this happen..
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1189 » by playa-hater » Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:51 am

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Heard the team may be looking into yet another draft and stash with this 45 pick, to make room for Yam.


why?? worst case the 45th pick can become a 2 way player.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1190 » by playa-hater » Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:56 am

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LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Heard the team may be looking into yet another draft and stash with this 45 pick, to make room for Yam.


Yeah, I’ve heard the same. Brad/Ime don’t want any more young guys that can’t contribute.


Yeah and with that logic we lost D Bane last year and his top 10 NBA 3 point shooting. This draft is ripe with potentially good role playing talents for cheap. You don't pas up talent because they might not be ready fast enough.

Unless I am mistaken, we still have Tacko, Edwards, Waters, Grant, Semi to replace and only 1 draft pick so...
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1191 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:57 am

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Heard the team may be looking into yet another draft and stash with this 45 pick, to make room for Yam.


This is very promising, but very worrisome. I hear this draft is 80-90 players deep. I hope we don’t miss out on anyone who doesn’t want to be a draft and stash.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1192 » by playa-hater » Tue Jul 6, 2021 4:01 am

Hal14 wrote:Potential target with pick 45.





At least his poor shooting showed signs of improvement to give him some hope. He definitely qualifies my wish for switchable defenders. But he has to show well with shooting in workouts, or it won't matter.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1193 » by Hal14 » Tue Jul 6, 2021 4:07 am

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Hal14 wrote:Potential target with pick 45.





At least his poor shooting showed signs of improvement to give him some hope. He definitely qualifies my wish for switchable defenders. But he has to show well with shooting in workouts, or it won't matter.

This was from the combine:


He does need to improve his shooting but for a forward he's an elite passer.
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Post#1194 » by playa-hater » Tue Jul 6, 2021 4:10 am

Hal14 wrote:These are the 6 guys I think are the best players who would be the best fit for the C's and high probability of still being there at 45, ranked in no particular order:

Moses Wright
Santi Aldama
Herb Jones
Joe Wieskamp
Kessler Edwards
Vrenz Bleijenbergh


interesting that you have 2 players who are Bigs (though they can play some 4)

My top choice Vrenz is a mystery right now. Haven't heard anyone working him out. So I do not know what to think anymore. Wisekamp is still in my top 2 choices however.

If Boston does trade a center, then I will be more open for Moses and Santi.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1195 » by playa-hater » Tue Jul 6, 2021 4:13 am

Hal14 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Potential target with pick 45.





At least his poor shooting showed signs of improvement to give him some hope. He definitely qualifies my wish for switchable defenders. But he has to show well with shooting in workouts, or it won't matter.

This was from the combine:


He does need to improve his shooting but for a forward he's an elite passer.


Uh OH, I don't like what I saw. shot it from his chin and looked like he brought it to his non shooting side (right side) Reminds me of MKG but a lefty.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1196 » by Hal14 » Tue Jul 6, 2021 4:22 am

playa-hater wrote:
Hal14 wrote:These are the 6 guys I think are the best players who would be the best fit for the C's and high probability of still being there at 45, ranked in no particular order:

Moses Wright
Santi Aldama
Herb Jones
Joe Wieskamp
Kessler Edwards
Vrenz Bleijenbergh


interesting that you have 2 players who are Bigs (though they can play some 4)

My top choice Vrenz is a mystery right now. Haven't heard anyone working him out. So I do not know what to think anymore. Wisekamp is still in my top 2 choices however.

If Boston does trade a center, then I will be more open for Moses and Santi.

Vrenz has some workouts scheduled:

Read on Twitter


Santi and Wright project as 4's in the NBA who can also play some 5 in a smaller lineup. With that being said, I definitely expect Brad will trade either Rob or Thompson..
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1197 » by winsomme2 » Tue Jul 6, 2021 11:42 am

The Comedian wrote:
LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Heard the team may be looking into yet another draft and stash with this 45 pick, to make room for Yam.


Yeah, I’ve heard the same. Brad/Ime don’t want any more young guys that can’t contribute.



Pretty easily could open up spots by moving on from Waters and Edwards, no?

I agree that we don't want a roster filled with players who can't play, but lets move on from the ones that we know can't contribute instead of wasting more draft picks.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1198 » by ICeeYou » Tue Jul 6, 2021 1:34 pm

winsomme2 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Heard the team may be looking into yet another draft and stash with this 45 pick, to make room for Yam.


Yeah, I’ve heard the same. Brad/Ime don’t want any more young guys that can’t contribute.



Pretty easily could open up spots by moving on from Waters and Edwards, no?

I agree that we don't want a roster filled with players who can't play, but lets move on from the ones that we know can't contribute instead of wasting more draft picks.


I mean, at 45 it’s likely/possible you’re just going to replace Edwards with another guy who can’t play, or ply right away.

I’d say this is encouraging from a roster building standpoint. The Celtics have done a pretty poor job using the veterans minimum/BAE/MLE in recent years.

Hopefully they can actually have a bench with some veterans on it heading into the season.

Though, this would be terrible news for Hal lol
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1199 » by Curmudgeon » Tue Jul 6, 2021 1:42 pm

I would have no problem drafting and stashing a young big like Amar Sylla.or Ariel Hukporti.
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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#1200 » by cloverleaf » Tue Jul 6, 2021 1:44 pm

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Heard the team may be looking into yet another draft and stash with this 45 pick, to make room for Yam.


Part of the blowup on the Kyrie team 2 years ago was supposed to be because Danny had too many vets who deserved and expected to play, so he swung the pendulum too far to the other extreme with too many young guys who couldn't command time for the deep bench these last two seasons. (It wouldn't have been so bad this year if some of those many rooks had developed better and they hadn't waited so long on Hayward, then had picked better from the remaining FA pool.)

But I wonder now if Brad will go back too far the other way and we'll be back to the minutes squeeze again this year.

I do think it would be good, however, if it worked out with Payton and Yam as #2 and 3 on their PG depth chart.

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