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Who wins the 2021 NBA Finals

Suns in 4
27
6%
Suns in 5
58
13%
Suns in 6
131
30%
Suns in 7
42
10%
Bucks in 4
3
1%
Bucks in 5
10
2%
Bucks in 6
124
28%
Bucks in 7
43
10%
 
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Post#281 » by OmniStrife » Tue Jul 6, 2021 2:23 pm

Rob Diaz wrote:I know Chris Paul doesn’t have any integrity and that the Suns have been a nothing franchise for most of their existence, but if they really respected the game, they wouldn’t accept this championship.

We’ve never seen anything even approaching this in league history, it’s a joke.

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Post#282 » by DCasey91 » Tue Jul 6, 2021 2:26 pm

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Hawks play very small size wise. I just don’t think Lopez is a great rebounder that’s pretty much it.
We out rebounded them too, we just forgot that we were big lol

We’ll see how this finals series go.


One, Lopez, again, is superb on the defensive glass, and this can't really be debated at this point.

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20-21: +2
19-20: +1.9
18-19: +1.5
17-18: +1.7
16-17: +3.2
15-16: +3.9
14-15: +2.7
13-14: +2.8
12-13: +1.5
11-12: +.6
10-11: -.2
09-10: +.5
08-09: +4.6

Ayton, meanwhile, was -4.2 DRB% this season. He grabs offensive rebounds which make him look better, and that happens to be a major strength for Milwaukee. You're just not making a whole lot of sense here.

Re: Atlanta, they start two traditionally sized frontcourt players when most teams have gone smaller. They certainly do not play "very small size wise." Meanwhile, the Sixers are started a guy the size of a traditional wing at the 4 in Harris. What?



Dude let’s be real Hawks are tiny on their playstyle. Collins was a non factor for a long while. Bucks are big and so is the Sixers.

Ben, Harris, Embiid, Howard we’ve been too top heavy if anything. Our guards are small that’s it. Hawks have tiny tiny guards let’s not forget that.
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Post#283 » by Fo-Real » Tue Jul 6, 2021 2:30 pm

Rob Diaz wrote:I know Chris Paul doesn’t have any integrity and that the Suns have been a nothing franchise for most of their existence, but if they really respected the game, they wouldn’t accept this championship.

We’ve never seen anything even approaching this in league history, it’s a joke.


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Post#284 » by FinnTheHuman » Tue Jul 6, 2021 2:36 pm

DCasey91 wrote:
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DCasey91 wrote:

With Giannis out Ayton is going to feast, small ball lineups or with Lopez whose not a great rebounder Ayton will monster the boards.

I actually have him winning finals MVP just on impact. He’s set for a huuuuuuge one


That 'Brook Lopez is not a good rebounder' argument is a top 3 casual alert. You, sir, are a casual.



What? I don’t think Embiid is a great rebounder either and I watch all of his games.


Yea but Lopez is one of the best rebounders in the game because his team is always winning the rebounding battles when he's on the court. It's not about which individual rebounds, it's whether the team rebounds well when you're on the court. This has been known to non-casuals for years.
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Post#285 » by Hsker4Life » Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:26 pm

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Rob Diaz wrote:I know Chris Paul doesn’t have any integrity and that the Suns have been a nothing franchise for most of their existence, but if they really respected the game, they wouldn’t accept this championship.

We’ve never seen anything even approaching this in league history, it’s a joke.

What nonsense.

The Lakers and Nets decided to build their team around superstars, so it’s on them that things fell apart when those superstars got injured.

Phoenix built a solid all around team, and when they were dealt with adversity they could overcome it.


Agreed. Never seen a team like the Suns capable of overcoming the adversity of facing 4 straight teams in the playoffs missing either their best or 2nd best player. They should receive two rings this year for this epic feat.

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Post#286 » by Woodsanity » Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:28 pm

Rob Diaz wrote:I know Chris Paul doesn’t have any integrity and that the Suns have been a nothing franchise for most of their existence, but if they really respected the game, they wouldn’t accept this championship.

We’ve never seen anything even approaching this in league history, it’s a joke.

If you really respected the game you would delete your account and never go on realgm again.
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Post#287 » by jsierra1985 » Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:34 pm

I was 8 freaking years old when i watched the suns in the finals in 93'

I am F*CKING HYPED about all this.

I dont care about the road to the finals. Or injury talk blah blah....

SUNS 4 MORE EFFIN WINS!
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Post#288 » by jsierra1985 » Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:35 pm

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Rob Diaz wrote:I know Chris Paul doesn’t have any integrity and that the Suns have been a nothing franchise for most of their existence, but if they really respected the game, they wouldn’t accept this championship.

We’ve never seen anything even approaching this in league history, it’s a joke.

If you really respected the game you would delete your account and never go on realgm again.


Hopefully he doesn't.

Posts like that put it all in perspective.

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Post#289 » by phnart » Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:37 pm

Both Lopez brothers do a good job of boxing out their man, so Brook will do a good job when on the court, but Ayton is way more athletic and will make him work on D. I used to laugh at Robin when he was a Sun because he worked so hard to box people out that he often ended up boxing himself out.
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Post#290 » by skones » Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:39 pm

phnart wrote:Both Lopez brothers do a good job of boxing out their man, so Brook will do a good job when on the court, but Ayton is way more athletic and will make him work on D. I used to laugh at Robin when he was a Sun because he worked so hard to box people out that he often ended up boxing himself out.


Ayton can't guard both Lopez and Portis, therein lies the issue. Give up an open three or sit in the paint.
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Post#291 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:48 pm

skones wrote:I thought we were a first round out, second round out max, so I feel like I'm mostly playing with house money here, especially with the Giannis situation being murky. I DO expect him to play in this series by game 2 or 3. Even so, I think this Bucks team, even without Giannis, is better than the one Phoenix faced in the Clippers which pushed them at times.

I love Chris Paul, and although I'll probably loathe him by the end of this, I can make my peace with the guy I consider to be the best PG of all time getting a Championship at 36 even though I'll still seethe over choosing Jrue over him.


Yeah, going into the season I felt if we could get to the 2nd round that would be great and any better, would just be gravy. I imagine if all teams are healthy they may have finished 4th behind the LA teams and Utah, and facing Denver with HCA in the first round and winning that one and maybe Utah in the 2nd who was on fire the whole season though who the Suns swept. Then the WCF vs an LA team which would have been tougher but they would have had a decent chance, particularly against the Lakers, who they showed they could beat in game 1 with the Lakers healthy, even with Paul getting injured..after that neither team was healthy except the first half of game 4 which was close with the Suns winning in LA when AD went down.
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Post#292 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:51 pm

Rob Diaz wrote:I know Chris Paul doesn’t have any integrity and that the Suns have been a nothing franchise for most of their existence, but if they really respected the game, they wouldn’t accept this championship.

We’ve never seen anything even approaching this in league history, it’s a joke.


Who do you think they should give it to if the Suns decline? Just to the Nets for having probably the best team on paper? Or the preseason favorite Clippers according to 538? Maybe they should just do that every year...the season has too many injuries for championships to be worth much.
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Post#293 » by DeBrick » Tue Jul 6, 2021 3:53 pm

Hsker4Life wrote:
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ThomYorke wrote:What nonsense.

The Lakers and Nets decided to build their team around superstars, so it’s on them that things fell apart when those superstars got injured.

Phoenix built a solid all around team, and when they were dealt with adversity they could overcome it.


Agreed. Never seen a team like the Suns capable of overcoming the adversity of facing 4 straight teams in the playoffs missing either their best or 2nd best player. They should receive two rings this year for this epic feat.

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Post#294 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 6, 2021 4:23 pm

Doranku wrote:Agreed. Never seen a team like the Suns capable of overcoming the adversity of facing 4 straight teams in the playoffs missing either their best or 2nd best player. They should receive two rings this year for this epic feat.


However, they did sweep a Nuggets team who had no problem dispatching of Portland, who was more the type of team Phx should have played in the first round as a 2 seed anyway. This is a Portland team who beat the Lakers late while jockeying for playoff positioning, before the healthy Lakers won a play in game on a last second 3 against a severely depleted GS team.

And they knocked out a Clippers team who had no problem beating #1 seeded Utah without Kawhi in 2 games to close them out.

It's not like these series were particularly close..the Clips kind of was until game 6 when Paul was back to normal after missing 2 games and being rusty for 2.

It's not like they got to play the Nets missing 2 superstars and playing like a 6 man rotation of mostly role players with KD and sometimes Harden who likely hurt the team when on the floor. They still had problems with them.

But they shouldn't apologize for beating the severely depleted Nets, or the 5th seeded Hawks without Trae (or a Trae that hurt ATL when on the floor) either.
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Post#295 » by spanishninja » Tue Jul 6, 2021 4:29 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Doranku wrote:Agreed. Never seen a team like the Suns capable of overcoming the adversity of facing 4 straight teams in the playoffs missing either their best or 2nd best player. They should receive two rings this year for this epic feat.


However, they did sweep a Nuggets team who had no problem dispatching of Portland, who was more the type of team Phx should have played in the first round as a 2 seed anyway. This is a Portland team who beat the Lakers late while jockeying for playoff positioning, before the healthy Lakers won a play in game on a last second 3 against a severely depleted GS team.

And they knocked out a Clippers team who had no problem beating #1 seeded Utah without Kawhi in 2 games to close them out.

It's not like these series were particularly close..the Clips kind of was until game 6 when Paul was back to normal after missing 2 games and being rusty for 2.

It's not like they got to play the Nets missing 2 superstars and playing like a 6 man rotation of mostly role players with KD and sometimes Harden who likely hurt the team when on the floor. They still had problems with them.

But they shouldn't apologize for beating the severely depleted Nets, or the 5th seeded Hawks without Trae (or a Trae that hurt ATL when on the floor) either.


You gotta understand though. The media narrative is that the Lakers would have gone super-saiyan in the playoffs and steamrolled through everybody from the 7th seed, and that Murray would have won four games for the Nuggets all by himself.
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Post#297 » by zshawn10 » Tue Jul 6, 2021 4:39 pm

jsierra1985 wrote:I was 8 freaking years old when i watched the suns in the finals in 93'

I am F*CKING HYPED about all this.

I dont care about the road to the finals. Or injury talk blah blah....

SUNS 4 MORE EFFIN WINS!


Congrats; your team is a -195 series favorite in Vegas which is pretty big and the consensus is Suns in 5 or 6
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Post#298 » by spanishninja » Tue Jul 6, 2021 4:41 pm

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Post#299 » by carrrnuttt » Tue Jul 6, 2021 4:51 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Doranku wrote:Agreed. Never seen a team like the Suns capable of overcoming the adversity of facing 4 straight teams in the playoffs missing either their best or 2nd best player. They should receive two rings this year for this epic feat.


However, they did sweep a Nuggets team who had no problem dispatching of Portland, who was more the type of team Phx should have played in the first round as a 2 seed anyway. This is a Portland team who beat the Lakers late while jockeying for playoff positioning, before the healthy Lakers won a play in game on a last second 3 against a severely depleted GS team.

And they knocked out a Clippers team who had no problem beating #1 seeded Utah without Kawhi in 2 games to close them out.

It's not like these series were particularly close..the Clips kind of was until game 6 when Paul was back to normal after missing 2 games and being rusty for 2.

It's not like they got to play the Nets missing 2 superstars and playing like a 6 man rotation of mostly role players with KD and sometimes Harden who likely hurt the team when on the floor. They still had problems with them.

But they shouldn't apologize for beating the severely depleted Nets, or the 5th seeded Hawks without Trae (or a Trae that hurt ATL when on the floor) either.


Like I said earlier in this thread, Murray should have been the MVP, since he was the difference between the Suns sweeping the Nuggets (4 out of 3 games being blowouts) and them winning that series. A healthy Jokic apparently didn't matter.
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Post#300 » by skones » Tue Jul 6, 2021 4:56 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
It's not like they got to play the Nets missing 2 superstars and playing like a 6 man rotation of mostly role players with KD and sometimes Harden who likely hurt the team when on the floor. They still had problems with them.



I'm not going to sit here and harp on injuries like others are, but if you're going to argue with these guys, don't drag the Bucks into it. You're right that you didn't get to play the Nets with KD and a bunch of roleplayers (even though Harden played 3 and Irving three and a half), instead you literally played the Clippers led by Paul George and a bunch of roleplayers. There's a gulf between the two even before you consider a second star actually played games. Don't be petty towards us to cover your team's ass. It's embarrassing.

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