2021 NBA Draft Thread

[MPM]

I'm liking Trey Murphy more and more. I think he's as good, if not better, than many of the wings being mocked in our range (at least in terms of translating to the NBA). Size, length, shot, tons of upside on D, high character, local product. He seems to give us more of a Mikal Bridges/3&D type out of box as opposed to the more familiar names in our range (that seem to all have at least one question mark - Keon's shot, Kispert's D, Johnson's offense/character, Moody's athleticism, etc., etc.). I know he'd be considered a big reach based on current mocks, but he seems like a great fit.

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[wilson115]

I'm liking Trey Murphy more and more. I think he's as good, if not better, than many of the wings being mocked in our range. Size, length, shot, tons of upside on D, high character, local product. He seems to give us more of a Mikal Bridges/3&D type out of box as opposed to the more familiar names in our range (that seem to all have at least one question mark - Keon's shot, Kispert's D, Johnson's offense/character, Moody's athleticism, etc., etc.). I know he'd be considered a big reach based on current mocks, but he seems like a great fit.

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Talk about octopus arms. Release the Trey-ken!

[MPM]

I'm liking Trey Murphy more and more. I think he's as good, if not better, than many of the wings being mocked in our range. Size, length, shot, tons of upside on D, high character, local product. He seems to give us more of a Mikal Bridges/3&D type out of box as opposed to the more familiar names in our range (that seem to all have at least one question mark - Keon's shot, Kispert's D, Johnson's offense/character, Moody's athleticism, etc., etc.). I know he'd be considered a big reach based on current mocks, but he seems like a great fit.

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Talk about octopus arms. Release the Trey-ken!

Ha. Yeah, he also measured at nearly 6'10" in shoes at combine - fantastic size for a guy that can play/guard 2-4

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Trey is 31st on Tankathon's big board & ESPN has him mocked going 21st to NYC. That is a bit of a reach, but it's a strange year.

[MPM]

Trey is 31st on Tankathon's big board & ESPN has him mocked going 21st to NYC. That is a bit of a reach, but it's a strange year.

My pipe dream is a Kupchak tradeback where we grab Murphy and big, but not holding my breath. Regardless, I think Murphy will go a bit earlier than where he's mocked.

[BigSlam]

I'm liking Trey Murphy more and more. I think he's as good, if not better, than many of the wings being mocked in our range (at least in terms of translating to the NBA). Size, length, shot, tons of upside on D, high character, local product. He seems to give us more of a Mikal Bridges/3&D type out of box as opposed to the more familiar names in our range (that seem to all have at least one question mark - Keon's shot, Kispert's D, Johnson's offense/character, Moody's athleticism, etc., etc.). I know he'd be considered a big reach based on current mocks, but he seems like a great fit.

That's a very pretty, consistent and compact jumper with a lovely arc.

[yosemiteben]

I have a very tough time with the prospect of using a lottery pick to draft a 21 year old that averaged 11 points, 3 boards, and 1 assist in 30 minutes of play time. Pretty underwhelming statistical production.

[Snidely FC]

I'm liking Trey Murphy more and more. I think he's as good, if not better, than many of the wings being mocked in our range (at least in terms of translating to the NBA). Size, length, shot, tons of upside on D, high character, local product. He seems to give us more of a Mikal Bridges/3&D type out of box as opposed to the more familiar names in our range (that seem to all have at least one question mark - Keon's shot, Kispert's D, Johnson's offense/character, Moody's athleticism, etc., etc.). I know he'd be considered a big reach based on current mocks, but he seems like a great fit.

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Totally agree with you MPM. If we want him, grab him, like when PHX surprised everyone by taking Cameron Johnson at 11. Mikal Bridges, who you mentioned as a comp, went 10. Guys from UVA tend to be good pros. We need size, shooting, switchable defense. I like him

[JMAC3]

My thing with Murphy is you can get guys like this in the 20's every single year in the draft. Why reach at 11?

[MPM]

I'm liking Trey Murphy more and more. I think he's as good, if not better, than many of the wings being mocked in our range (at least in terms of translating to the NBA). Size, length, shot, tons of upside on D, high character, local product. He seems to give us more of a Mikal Bridges/3&D type out of box as opposed to the more familiar names in our range (that seem to all have at least one question mark - Keon's shot, Kispert's D, Johnson's offense/character, Moody's athleticism, etc., etc.). I know he'd be considered a big reach based on current mocks, but he seems like a great fit.

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Totally agree with you MPM. If we want him, grab him, like when PHX surprised everyone by taking Cameron Johnson at 11. Mikal Bridges, who you mentioned as a comp, went 10. Guys from UVA tend to be good pros. We need size, shooting, switchable defense. I like him

Funny - watching Cam and Bridges triggered my post last night. Was thinking - 'yeah, we need some of that.' Murphy seems like one of the better suited prospects to replicating what they do.

[JMAC3]

My thing with Murphy is you can get guys like this in the 20's every single year in the draft. Why reach at 11?

Also, both Bridges and Johnson averaged 17 ppg their final seasons and not 11 ppg.

[LofJ]

A guy that big only grabbing 3 rebounds a game is a red flag for me.

[MPM]

My thing with Murphy is you can get guys like this in the 20's every single year in the draft. Why reach at 11?

Also, both Bridges and Johnson averaged 17 ppg their final seasons and not 11 ppg.

Fair point, but to counter - at least partially a result of system - UVA put up far less points in 20-21 (68.2) than UNC in 18-19 (85.8) and Nova in 17-18 (86.6)

[JMAC3]

My thing with Murphy is you can get guys like this in the 20's every single year in the draft. Why reach at 11?

Also, both Bridges and Johnson averaged 17 ppg their final seasons and not 11 ppg.

Fair point, but to counter - at least partially a result of system - UVA put up far less points in 20-21 (68.2) than UNC in 18-19 (85.8) and Nova in 17-18 (86.6)

I just don't want to draft Tony Snell at 11.

[SWedd523]

You know why Mikal and Cam look good?

Because they're playing off a top 3 all time PG, a guy who can have an off night and still hang 30 points, and a young big who might be a star sooner rather than later.

They don't look nearly as pretty in Charlotte.

Adding a guy who might get you 10/3/2 as a pro seems like aiming low.

You can't pour the milk in the bowl before you add the cereal!

[BigSlam]

I'm liking Trey Murphy more and more. I think he's as good, if not better, than many of the wings being mocked in our range (at least in terms of translating to the NBA). Size, length, shot, tons of upside on D, high character, local product. He seems to give us more of a Mikal Bridges/3&D type out of box as opposed to the more familiar names in our range (that seem to all have at least one question mark - Keon's shot, Kispert's D, Johnson's offense/character, Moody's athleticism, etc., etc.). I know he'd be considered a big reach based on current mocks, but he seems like a great fit.

Totally agree with you MPM. If we want him, grab him, like when PHX surprised everyone by taking Cameron Johnson at 11. Mikal Bridges, who you mentioned as a comp, went 10. Guys from UVA tend to be good pros. We need size, shooting, switchable defense. I like him

Funny - watching Cam and Bridges triggered my post last night. Was thinking - 'yeah, we need some of that.' Murphy seems like one of the better suited prospects to replicating what they do.

Scouts could see Murphy rise into the top 20 with his convincing shooting stroke for a 6'9", switchable defender. He's an easy plug-and-play stretch forward with a translatable core skill and valued archetype.

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[MPM]

Also, both Bridges and Johnson averaged 17 ppg their final seasons and not 11 ppg.

Fair point, but to counter - at least partially a result of system - UVA put up far less points in 20-21 (68.2) than UNC in 18-19 (85.8) and Nova in 17-18 (86.6)

I just don't want to draft Tony Snell at 11.

Ha - yeah - it eventually boils down to belief. I believe he'll be a solid pro, you don't. Fair enough. I also thought Tim Duncan would bust.

[LofJ]

Who do you guys think will be the 10 guys off the board at 11?

I've got:

Cunningham
Green
Mobley
Suggs
Barnes
Kuminga
Wagner
Moody
Sengun
Bouknight

[JMAC3]

Just started a small project revolving around draft pick success rate in the NBA.

I used data from drafts 2006-2017 (new draft data is too incomplete) to determine the relative success rate for each draft range.

Draft Range 1-5
Success rate was determined by if a player has made an all-star game.
Success Rate of 40% or on average 2/5 yearly.

Draft Range 6-14
Success rate was determined by if a player was a starter for his team.
Success Rate of 51%

Draft Range 15-30
Success rate was determined by if a player was a rotation player for his team.
Success Rate of 49%

Draft Range 31-40
Success was determined by if a player was a rotation player for his team.
Success Rate of 36%

Draft Range 41-60
Success rate was determined by if a player was a rotation player for his team.
Success Rate of 15%

Starts and Minutes averaged per season were used to determine eligibility.

[LofJ]

DJ Funderburk should make the team so I can buy his jersey.

"Bring the Funder babay!" - Dick Vitale (probably)

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