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The Case for Drafting 2 Pure Shooters

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Re: The Case for Drafting 2 Pure Shooters 

Post#21 » by VFX » Wed Jul 7, 2021 5:36 pm

It’s not “pure” shooters, but players that aren’t inept at shooting.

For example, Suggs, Moody, Davion Mitchell, and Bouknight are completely capable of hitting outside shots while not being labeled “pure shooters”. These are the players I would want Orlando to target.

Barnes, Kuminga, and Keon all have that label of missing a shot.

Kispert is probably the purest shooter 3-D in the lotto, but he doesn’t really have athleticism or can handle the ball.
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Re: The Case for Drafting 2 Pure Shooters 

Post#22 » by zaymon » Wed Jul 7, 2021 5:39 pm

89Magicfan wrote:
fendilim wrote:The Gordon and Kuminga comparison is interesting both in the sense that they seem to have high potential coming into the draft.

I would say the difference between both are their skillset heading in. Kuminga already has the footwork and has shown flashes to be a capable scorer before the draft.

Gordon… never mind.


This team need shooters, but more important is to have at least one scorer. Especially with how the game has evolved today, you need as much scorers as possible. Shooters are dime a dozen.



When I watch Kuminga, feels like I’m watching Stanley Johnson.


I refuse to believe same front office who "reached" for Okeke will draft Kuminga.
Its hard to even imagine progress he would need to make to give him the ball to make decisions.
Ignite was created to make them look good. In College you have to fight for your position at least a little, in g league it was all about Green and Kuminga. I would be cautious to draft player who looked good let alone bad.
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Re: The Case for Drafting 2 Pure Shooters 

Post#23 » by Skybox » Wed Jul 7, 2021 7:20 pm

zaymon wrote:
89Magicfan wrote:
fendilim wrote:The Gordon and Kuminga comparison is interesting both in the sense that they seem to have high potential coming into the draft.

I would say the difference between both are their skillset heading in. Kuminga already has the footwork and has shown flashes to be a capable scorer before the draft.

Gordon… never mind.


This team need shooters, but more important is to have at least one scorer. Especially with how the game has evolved today, you need as much scorers as possible. Shooters are dime a dozen.



When I watch Kuminga, feels like I’m watching Stanley Johnson.


I refuse to believe same front office who "reached" for Okeke will draft Kuminga.
Its hard to even imagine progress he would need to make to give him the ball to make decisions.
Ignite was created to make them look good. In College you have to fight for your position at least a little, in g league it was all about Green and Kuminga. I would be cautious to draft player who looked good let alone bad.


That's true that the league had a vested interest in the young stars succeeding to fuel the idea vs NCAA but...the grown men competing for their NBA lives (against Elite) had to want to shut them down. This wasn't a Globetrotters/Generals matchup.
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Re: The Case for Drafting 2 Pure Shooters 

Post#24 » by basketballRob » Wed Jul 7, 2021 9:39 pm

zaymon wrote:
89Magicfan wrote:
fendilim wrote:The Gordon and Kuminga comparison is interesting both in the sense that they seem to have high potential coming into the draft.

I would say the difference between both are their skillset heading in. Kuminga already has the footwork and has shown flashes to be a capable scorer before the draft.

Gordon… never mind.


This team need shooters, but more important is to have at least one scorer. Especially with how the game has evolved today, you need as much scorers as possible. Shooters are dime a dozen.



When I watch Kuminga, feels like I’m watching Stanley Johnson.


I refuse to believe same front office who "reached" for Okeke will draft Kuminga.
Its hard to even imagine progress he would need to make to give him the ball to make decisions.
Ignite was created to make them look good. In College you have to fight for your position at least a little, in g league it was all about Green and Kuminga. I would be cautious to draft player who looked good let alone bad.
Kuminga put up better stats than Edwards did in college. As young as Edwards was, Kuminga was 2 months younger.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/gleague/players/k/kuminjo01d.html


https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/anthony-edwards-2.html


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Re: The Case for Drafting 2 Pure Shooters 

Post#25 » by Bensational » Wed Jul 7, 2021 10:15 pm

zaymon wrote:
I refuse to believe same front office who "reached" for Okeke will draft Kuminga.
Its hard to even imagine progress he would need to make to give him the ball to make decisions.
Ignite was created to make them look good. In College you have to fight for your position at least a little, in g league it was all about Green and Kuminga. I would be cautious to draft player who looked good let alone bad.


Yeah, this is one of the things that sours me. They gave them the reigns and supported them with the best fitting veterans for the G-League, as a 15 game highlight reel for scouts.

I like what I saw from Green as far as him learning how to play like a pro, on and off the ball. Kuminga, on the other hand, seemed more like he was just waiting for his turn. And when he got his turn, he put up the least efficient numbers in the draft.

Can you imagine what he would be like on a new rebuilding team like ours where he assumes he’s the new centre-piece? Chuck city. And it would likely never change because he doesn’t seem like he has the maturity to handle criticism at this point.
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Re: The Case for Drafting 2 Pure Shooters 

Post#26 » by The Effect » Wed Jul 7, 2021 11:12 pm

id be much happier with 2 shooters vs 2 more defensive role guys
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Re: The Case for Drafting 2 Pure Shooters 

Post#27 » by fendilim » Thu Jul 8, 2021 6:02 am

Bensational wrote:
zaymon wrote:
I refuse to believe same front office who "reached" for Okeke will draft Kuminga.
Its hard to even imagine progress he would need to make to give him the ball to make decisions.
Ignite was created to make them look good. In College you have to fight for your position at least a little, in g league it was all about Green and Kuminga. I would be cautious to draft player who looked good let alone bad.


Yeah, this is one of the things that sours me. They gave them the reigns and supported them with the best fitting veterans for the G-League, as a 15 game highlight reel for scouts.

I like what I saw from Green as far as him learning how to play like a pro, on and off the ball. Kuminga, on the other hand, seemed more like he was just waiting for his turn. And when he got his turn, he put up the least efficient numbers in the draft.

Can you imagine what he would be like on a new rebuilding team like ours where he assumes he’s the new centre-piece? Chuck city. And it would likely never change because he doesn’t seem like he has the maturity to handle criticism at this point.

Is this because of the twitter mentions?

I see it as fuel to the fire. His reply wasnt even like durant where he claps back. His replies were suggesting he will prove them wrong.
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Re: The Case for Drafting 2 Pure Shooters 

Post#28 » by nicnac215 » Thu Jul 8, 2021 6:29 am

If Orlando isn’t in love with Barnes nor Kuminga I can see them picking Moody and Kispert at 5 and 8. It would be great compliments to Fultz, Cole, and RJ. Slight reaches but it would instantly bring in rookies who can help stretch the floor and raise the potential for our other young players.
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Re: The Case for Drafting 2 Pure Shooters 

Post#29 » by drsd » Thu Jul 8, 2021 6:55 am

The Effect wrote:id be much happier with 2 shooters vs 2 more defensive role guys


Orlando needs to use the draft differently than the last 7 years. Something must change.


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Re: The Case for Drafting 2 Pure Shooters 

Post#30 » by pepe1991 » Thu Jul 8, 2021 8:27 am

Bensational wrote:
zaymon wrote:
I refuse to believe same front office who "reached" for Okeke will draft Kuminga.
Its hard to even imagine progress he would need to make to give him the ball to make decisions.
Ignite was created to make them look good. In College you have to fight for your position at least a little, in g league it was all about Green and Kuminga. I would be cautious to draft player who looked good let alone bad.


Yeah, this is one of the things that sours me. They gave them the reigns and supported them with the best fitting veterans for the G-League, as a 15 game highlight reel for scouts.

I like what I saw from Green as far as him learning how to play like a pro, on and off the ball. Kuminga, on the other hand, seemed more like he was just waiting for his turn. And when he got his turn, he put up the least efficient numbers in the draft.

Can you imagine what he would be like on a new rebuilding team like ours where he assumes he’s the new centre-piece? Chuck city. And it would likely never change because he doesn’t seem like he has the maturity to handle criticism at this point.


I talked about it a lot in past.

Jerret Jack and Amir Johnson ,each, had more nba games experience than rest of G league, all players- combined.

Regardless of age, once you put in poor competition player that at one point looked like legit nba starting PG, in period where NBA point guard was most stacked position in basketball ( Parker, Paul, Deron Williams, Wall, Nash, Rondo, Kidd , Lawson, Nelson... ) you just create unfair adventage. Same was with Amir, from being rotation peace on contender to ... playing G league? Guy was 32, it's not like he was some over a hill 42 years old.
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