2020-21 NBA Season Discussion

[parsnips33]

I really want to doubt Ayton - he seems like the quintessential "guy who gets overrated because he's on a good team" - but I'm always very impressed watching him play. For such a big and athletic guy, his touch around the rim is really fantastic

[Outside]

It kills me how easily the Bucks give in to bad switches. They were hunting Lopez and Portis, but the screens Phoenix set often weren't very good, and even though Paul or Booker's man could've gone through the screen, they switched anyway. I just don't get it. Why give in so easily to what the opponent wants?

It's not like Paul or Booker are like Curry where they need just a sliver of daylight to get a three. They were using the switches to get a big in space so that they could drive on them. Paul or Booker's man needs to slide under the screen when that option is available, which it was quite often.

[Dr Positivity]

Bucks losing after going 16-46 from 3 is concerning, I thought they played well it's just Phoenix was spectacular

is not that below league average 3 point shooting?

i actually thought Phoenix had a near "perfect" game. most of their players shot well, their big 3 all had great games at the same time, they got (imo) a favorable whistle and shoot hyperefficiciently from the line

i am not sure the other games will go so well for them again but lets see

My bad it was actually 16-36

[70sFan]

Rough start for the Bucks, I think they have to play Jrue on Paul more, as he's the only one who gave Paul some problems in this game.

Bucks can adjust though and they lost this game basically by bad run in the 3rd quarter. I don't think Lopez was the problem on defense, Paul cooked everyone he had in front of him. Brook was certainly better than Portis and at least he gave Bucks solid offensive production.

As I said - Bucks can adjust and I doubt it will be a short series. We will see though.

my impression watching is that jrue inpact was mínimal in defense cause he was put in a pick nearly everytime making his defense disappear

i have been getting my mouth shut by López all post season long but i really thought switching so much your slow 7 footer into talented guards was a bad choice. is just not the best way to use a bit defensively here imo, guarding guards in space all game long is not putting him in a position to be effective

if you are gonna switch everythingh anyway why not just go "small" (as small as giannis at 5 can be) ?

You're right, I don't think that switching everything was a good idea.

[falcolombardi]

Bucks losing after going 16-46 from 3 is concerning, I thought they played well it's just Phoenix was spectacular

is not that below league average 3 point shooting?

i actually thought Phoenix had a near "perfect" game. most of their players shot well, their big 3 all had great games at the same time, they got (imo) a favorable whistle and shoot hyperefficiciently from the line

i am not sure the other games will go so well for them again but lets see

My bad it was actually 16-36

3 point shooting went the bucks away.

but mid range accuracy, whistle (booker/cp3 got a fistful of soft free throws middleton should have had too tbh) free throw shooting and finishing at the rim (bucks went. very bad there, lots of missed putbacks or layups) went the suns way

as good as the suns played, i think bucks hanged on very well and they can compete with some adjustments in how they are defending pick and roll imo

[Peregrine01]

With the Suns being so pick and roll heavy, I wonder why the Bucks just don't blitz hard to get the ball out of CP's and Book's hands. Let someone else try to make a play. I always thought that a weakness of these spread-out offenses is that it relegates 4 of the other players into being spectators and when the time comes that they do get the ball and are forced off the 3 pt line, they won't really know what to do with it.

[Colbinii]

With the Suns being so pick and roll heavy, I wonder why the Bucks just don't blitz hard to get the ball out of CP's and Book's hands. Let someone else try to make a play. I always thought that a weakness of these spread-out offenses is that it relegates 4 of the other players into being spectators and when the time comes that they do get the ball and are forced off the 3 pt line, they won't really know what to do with it.

Typically you can't blit uber-high IQ players. Blitzing CP3, LeBron and Nash level players is a recipe for disaster.

If you assume a veteran like Crowder isn't going to know what to do with the ball then I have some bad news for you.

Blitzing is also insanely tiring to do on a consistent basis, especially with the 7-man rotation Milwaukee runs.

[Peregrine01]

With the Suns being so pick and roll heavy, I wonder why the Bucks just don't blitz hard to get the ball out of CP's and Book's hands. Let someone else try to make a play. I always thought that a weakness of these spread-out offenses is that it relegates 4 of the other players into being spectators and when the time comes that they do get the ball and are forced off the 3 pt line, they won't really know what to do with it.

Typically you can't blit uber-high IQ players. Blitzing CP3, LeBron and Nash level players is a recipe for disaster.

If you assume a veteran like Crowder isn't going to know what to do with the ball then I have some bad news for you.

Blitzing is also insanely tiring to do on a consistent basis, especially with the 7-man rotation Milwaukee runs.

IMO, the best way to defend a great player is to prevent him from getting the ball. There's no really great options for defenses against offenses in today's game but I'd sure as hell prefer Crowder with the ball than Paul if I were the Bucks.

[falcolombardi]

the thingh with blitzing is that it is the defense accomplishing one of the offensive teams main objectives for them, get players open

ayton can no be left alone inside and with guys in either corner you are gonna be giving suns strong shooting role players open 3's, exactly the shot suns wants their role players to shot

i would rather they just defend pick and rolls rolls normally when brook and portis are involved. and maybe do switching between giannis/middleton/tucker/jrue

but even there bucks have insane lenght overall, contesting/pressuring from behind if paul and booker Drive is not the worsr thingh in the world compared to letting them be comfortable in a iso mismatch

going under the screens is not necesarrily the worst either, cp3 and specially booker are not curry or lillard, them shooting of the dribble is not a inadmisible option for bucks if well contested imo

booker 3 is streak and cp3 driving is not lighting fast , going under screens for booker and over them for cp3 instead of switching may work out by taking them of their confort zone (isos)

[Peregrine01]

the thingh with blitzing is that it is the defense accomplishing one of the offensive teams main objectives for them, get players open

ayton can no be left alone inside and with guys in either corner you are gonna be giving suns strong shooting role players open 3's, exactly the shot suns wants their role players to shot

i would rather they just defend pick and rolls rolls normally when brook and portis are involved. and maybe do switching between giannis/middleton/tucker/jrue

but even there bucks have insane lenght overall, contesting/pressuring from behind if paul and booker Drive is not the worsr thingh in the world compared to letting them be comfortable in a iso mismatch

going under the screens is not necesarrily the worst either, cp3 and specially booker are not curry or lillard, them shooting of the dribble is not a inadmisible option for bucks if well contested imo

booker 3 is streak and cp3 driving is not lighting fast , going under screens for booker and over them for cp3 instead of switching may work out by taking them of their confort zone (isos)

Well, you're gonna have to concede something. If the Bucks apply some more pressure at the point of attack, the Suns will be forced to go to their secondary options - which is a lot more preferable than letting CP3 and Book get comfortable dicing up a defense facing a spread offense. The more you force other players to do things that they're not comfortable with, the more likely they'll make mistakes. Plus, the more you force the offense to go to secondary options the more the shot clock becomes your friend.

[falcolombardi]

the thingh with blitzing is that it is the defense accomplishing one of the offensive teams main objectives for them, get players open

ayton can no be left alone inside and with guys in either corner you are gonna be giving suns strong shooting role players open 3's, exactly the shot suns wants their role players to shot

i would rather they just defend pick and rolls rolls normally when brook and portis are involved. and maybe do switching between giannis/middleton/tucker/jrue

but even there bucks have insane lenght overall, contesting/pressuring from behind if paul and booker Drive is not the worsr thingh in the world compared to letting them be comfortable in a iso mismatch

going under the screens is not necesarrily the worst either, cp3 and specially booker are not curry or lillard, them shooting of the dribble is not a inadmisible option for bucks if well contested imo

booker 3 is streak and cp3 driving is not lighting fast , going under screens for booker and over them for cp3 instead of switching may work out by taking them of their confort zone (isos)

Well, you're gonna have to concede something. If the Bucks apply some more pressure at the point of attack, the Suns will be forced to go to their secondary options - which is a lot more preferable than letting CP3 and Book get comfortable dicing up a defense facing a spread offense. The more you force other players to do things that they're not comfortable with, the more likely they'll make mistakes. Plus, the more you force the offense to go to secondary options the more the shot clock becomes your friend.

i would rather concede pull up 3's tbh when the alternative is open spot up 3's

[Fadeaway_J]

Blitzing not working out well so far. Suns making a bunch of corner threes.

[falcolombardi]

suns have 3 guys ar may moment who can shoot 40% from spot up 3's

is hard to win if they get shots, suns are just really well constructed despite not really having overwhelming talent

[bondom34]

Jrue has been amazing on defense and super rough on offense.

[TheGOATRises007]

Giannis absolutely sensational on offense thus far in the 3rd

[falcolombardi]

this **** must be so demotivating to bucks

every run they make is frases quickly by suns shooting

[bondom34]

The Suns are really driving the point home even further for me (and I've felt this way a while) of how important just having a bunch of quality wings is.

[falcolombardi]

there is a reasom way wings have such a disproportionally big amount of finals mvps

[MO12msu]

Giannis has been a monster today.

Ayton really struggling to secure the ball.

I know we all want Jrue to be "that guy" on offense but it's just not gonna happen.

[falcolombardi]

if you are hoping for jrue to lead your offense you are gonna lose

he is a good role player offensively. not a star