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Re: Your top 5 most underrated/overrated 21 prospects 

Post#41 » by bkseven » Thu Jul 8, 2021 4:14 pm

DCasey91 wrote:Underrated:
1. Roko Prkacin
2. Trey Murphy III
3. Josh Christopher
4. Joe Weiskamp
5. Isaiah Todd

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1. EJ Onu. Is he the backend big potential player that gets drafted late?

Overrated:
1. Cade Cunningham
2. Scottie Barnes
3. Davion Mitchell
4. Alperen Sengun
5. Usman Garuba

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Re: Your top 5 most underrated/overrated 21 prospects 

Post#42 » by Big J » Thu Jul 8, 2021 4:46 pm

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God Squad wrote:But he's in the conversation for either 1 or 2. So how is he "Underrated"? Who cares about Cade's personality being boring lol. I also have Green above Cade, but to say he's underrated is just not true.


Personality matters. Look at Rudy Gay & Andrew Wiggins. Their personalities don’t excite anyone .

Green’s not being talked about as a generational guy by most. They are saying all star level, but he has a chance to be the next Kobe.


Tim Duncan's personality didn't excite anyone either, Cade is known for being a great leader and culture builder on every team he has been on. His personality is nothing like Wiggins.

Green can barely go more than a sentence without mumbling lmao, he's not leading anyone

Green's a good prospect but I'd rather build a team around Cade's personality, Green seems like the type to leave for a big market at his first chance


Cade is not a leader man, he has absolutely zero charisma. He seems like he cares more about his brand and his stats than he does about his teammates.
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Re: Your top 5 most underrated/overrated 21 prospects 

Post#43 » by The-Power » Thu Jul 8, 2021 4:50 pm

Big J wrote:Cade is not a leader man, he has absolutely zero charisma. He seems like he cares more about his brand and his stats than he does about his teammates.

That shtick of yours is becoming awfully annoying.
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Re: Your top 5 most underrated/overrated 21 prospects 

Post#44 » by The Moose » Thu Jul 8, 2021 4:55 pm

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Personality matters. Look at Rudy Gay & Andrew Wiggins. Their personalities don’t excite anyone .

Green’s not being talked about as a generational guy by most. They are saying all star level, but he has a chance to be the next Kobe.


Tim Duncan's personality didn't excite anyone either, Cade is known for being a great leader and culture builder on every team he has been on. His personality is nothing like Wiggins.

Green can barely go more than a sentence without mumbling lmao, he's not leading anyone

Green's a good prospect but I'd rather build a team around Cade's personality, Green seems like the type to leave for a big market at his first chance


Cade is not a leader man, he has absolutely zero charisma. He seems like he cares more about his brand and his stats than he does about his teammates.


I mean everybody around him says that he is an outstanding leader and it’s one of his actual strengths. So you’re simply not basing your opinion in reality, unless you think his teammates and coaches and scouts who have been around him for years are just making it up?

In any event, how have you concluded that Green is a leader?
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Re: Your top 5 most underrated/overrated 21 prospects 

Post#45 » by SeattleJazzFan » Thu Jul 8, 2021 5:11 pm

ayo is wildly underrated

otherwise this draft has me entirely perplexed. have no clue how to project these dudes.
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Re: Your top 5 most underrated/overrated 21 prospects 

Post#46 » by Big J » Thu Jul 8, 2021 5:20 pm

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Tim Duncan's personality didn't excite anyone either, Cade is known for being a great leader and culture builder on every team he has been on. His personality is nothing like Wiggins.

Green can barely go more than a sentence without mumbling lmao, he's not leading anyone

Green's a good prospect but I'd rather build a team around Cade's personality, Green seems like the type to leave for a big market at his first chance


Cade is not a leader man, he has absolutely zero charisma. He seems like he cares more about his brand and his stats than he does about his teammates.


I mean everybody around him says that he is an outstanding leader and it’s one of his actual strengths. So you’re simply not basing your opinion in reality, unless you think his teammates and coaches and scouts who have been around him for years are just making it up?

In any event, how have you concluded that Green is a leader?


Cmon man, of course everyone is going to say nice things about the guy when they are asked.

Green is a natural leader. He’s full of charisma, connects with his teammates, and is beloved by his coaches. He’s got a Curry esque likability factor about him.
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Re: Your top 5 most underrated/overrated 21 prospects 

Post#47 » by SeattleJazzFan » Thu Jul 8, 2021 5:25 pm

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Cade is not a leader man, he has absolutely zero charisma. He seems like he cares more about his brand and his stats than he does about his teammates.


I mean everybody around him says that he is an outstanding leader and it’s one of his actual strengths. So you’re simply not basing your opinion in reality, unless you think his teammates and coaches and scouts who have been around him for years are just making it up?

In any event, how have you concluded that Green is a leader?


Cmon man, of course everyone is going to say nice things about the guy when they are asked.

Green is a natural leader. He’s full of charisma, connects with his teammates, and is beloved by his coaches. He’s got a Curry esque likability factor about him.


how do you know he's a natural leader? how do you know he connects with his teammates and is beloved by his coaches?
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Re: Your top 5 most underrated/overrated 21 prospects 

Post#48 » by The Moose » Thu Jul 8, 2021 5:27 pm

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Cade is not a leader man, he has absolutely zero charisma. He seems like he cares more about his brand and his stats than he does about his teammates.


I mean everybody around him says that he is an outstanding leader and it’s one of his actual strengths. So you’re simply not basing your opinion in reality, unless you think his teammates and coaches and scouts who have been around him for years are just making it up?

In any event, how have you concluded that Green is a leader?


Cmon man, of course everyone is going to say nice things about the guy when they are asked.

Green is a natural leader. He’s full of charisma, connects with his teammates, and is beloved by his coaches. He’s got a Curry esque likability factor about him.


You have to see the irony here right? Cades coaches and team mates are just being nice, but Greens are 100% genuine?

That’s not really a fair assumption
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Re: Your top 5 most underrated/overrated 21 prospects 

Post#49 » by Big J » Thu Jul 8, 2021 5:41 pm

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I mean everybody around him says that he is an outstanding leader and it’s one of his actual strengths. So you’re simply not basing your opinion in reality, unless you think his teammates and coaches and scouts who have been around him for years are just making it up?

In any event, how have you concluded that Green is a leader?


Cmon man, of course everyone is going to say nice things about the guy when they are asked.

Green is a natural leader. He’s full of charisma, connects with his teammates, and is beloved by his coaches. He’s got a Curry esque likability factor about him.


You have to see the irony here right? Cades coaches and team mates are just being nice, but Greens are 100% genuine?

That’s not really a fair assumption


Not really, a lot of it is based on what I’ve seen in interviews, and on their social media accounts. It’s easy to tell which ones are telling the truth when you can actually see the evidence for yourself.
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Re: Your top 5 most underrated/overrated 21 prospects 

Post#50 » by clyde21 » Thu Jul 8, 2021 5:43 pm

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Cade is not a leader man, he has absolutely zero charisma. He seems like he cares more about his brand and his stats than he does about his teammates.


I mean everybody around him says that he is an outstanding leader and it’s one of his actual strengths. So you’re simply not basing your opinion in reality, unless you think his teammates and coaches and scouts who have been around him for years are just making it up?

In any event, how have you concluded that Green is a leader?


Cmon man, of course everyone is going to say nice things about the guy when they are asked.

Green is a natural leader. He’s full of charisma, connects with his teammates, and is beloved by his coaches. He’s got a Curry esque likability factor about him.


you have a habit of just saying random things hoping they stick huh?

bring receipts that Cade is a bad leader or gtfo
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Re: Your top 5 most underrated/overrated 21 prospects 

Post#51 » by Charm » Thu Jul 8, 2021 6:01 pm

I'm pretty low on Cade, but I didn't see any issues with respect to leadership. He strikes a good balance between scoring and getting his teammates involved, he doesn't take plays off on D, and he steps up when he needs to at the end of games. What more do you want.
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Re: Your top 5 most underrated/overrated 21 prospects 

Post#52 » by EvanZ » Thu Jul 8, 2021 6:02 pm

Primo is clearly overrated at this point. Great kid, great personality. Wowed NBA folks at the Combine with how well he speaks for his age. Doesn't really do much at this point outside of his potential shooting. Think his hype got a bit out of control.
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Re: Your top 5 most underrated/overrated 21 prospects 

Post#53 » by clyde21 » Thu Jul 8, 2021 6:08 pm

EvanZ wrote:Primo is clearly overrated at this point. Great kid, great personality. Wowed NBA folks at the Combine with how well he speaks for his age. Doesn't really do much at this point outside of his potential shooting. Think his hype got a bit out of control.


6-6 with combo guard/two-way potential, frame is outstanding, athletic profile is only improving, shot 43/38/75 as a uber young FS in the SEC, smooth shooter

it's not hard to see why NBA teams loves him.
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Re: Your top 5 most underrated/overrated 21 prospects 

Post#54 » by King Ken » Thu Jul 8, 2021 6:35 pm

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EvanZ wrote:Primo is clearly overrated at this point. Great kid, great personality. Wowed NBA folks at the Combine with how well he speaks for his age. Doesn't really do much at this point outside of his potential shooting. Think his hype got a bit out of control.


6-6 with combo guard/two-way potential, frame is outstanding, athletic profile is only improving, shot 43/38/75 as a uber young FS in the SEC, smooth shooter

it's not hard to see why NBA teams loves him.

What if I said, both of you are right. This kid isn't any good right now. He's a g-leaguer but what clyde is saying is why teams love him. His ceiling is high.
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Re: Your top 5 most underrated/overrated 21 prospects 

Post#55 » by NotMyKawhi » Thu Jul 8, 2021 6:48 pm

Underrated

Cooper
Josh Christopher
Isiah Todd
Ziare Williams
Jalen Johnson


Overrated

Cade
Barnes
Mitchell
Kispert
Kai Jones
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Re: Your top 5 most underrated/overrated 21 prospects 

Post#56 » by Big J » Thu Jul 8, 2021 7:47 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Big J wrote:
The Moose wrote:
I mean everybody around him says that he is an outstanding leader and it’s one of his actual strengths. So you’re simply not basing your opinion in reality, unless you think his teammates and coaches and scouts who have been around him for years are just making it up?

In any event, how have you concluded that Green is a leader?


Cmon man, of course everyone is going to say nice things about the guy when they are asked.

Green is a natural leader. He’s full of charisma, connects with his teammates, and is beloved by his coaches. He’s got a Curry esque likability factor about him.


you have a habit of just saying random things hoping they stick huh?

bring receipts that Cade is a bad leader or gtfo


I don’t need receipts, just follow their instagram accounts. It’s right out there for everyone to see. You can tell a ton about what guys are like from their social media accounts.
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Re: Your top 5 most underrated/overrated 21 prospects 

Post#57 » by MotownMadness » Thu Jul 8, 2021 9:16 pm

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Tim Duncan's personality didn't excite anyone either, Cade is known for being a great leader and culture builder on every team he has been on. His personality is nothing like Wiggins.

Green can barely go more than a sentence without mumbling lmao, he's not leading anyone

Green's a good prospect but I'd rather build a team around Cade's personality, Green seems like the type to leave for a big market at his first chance


Cade is not a leader man, he has absolutely zero charisma. He seems like he cares more about his brand and his stats than he does about his teammates.


I mean everybody around him says that he is an outstanding leader and it’s one of his actual strengths. So you’re simply not basing your opinion in reality, unless you think his teammates and coaches and scouts who have been around him for years are just making it up?

In any event, how have you concluded that Green is a leader?
yeah whenever I watched Cade he was always clapping and hyping his teammates even when on the sidelines.
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Re: Your top 5 most underrated/overrated 21 prospects 

Post#58 » by clyde21 » Thu Jul 8, 2021 9:17 pm

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Big J wrote:
Cmon man, of course everyone is going to say nice things about the guy when they are asked.

Green is a natural leader. He’s full of charisma, connects with his teammates, and is beloved by his coaches. He’s got a Curry esque likability factor about him.


you have a habit of just saying random things hoping they stick huh?

bring receipts that Cade is a bad leader or gtfo


I don’t need receipts



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Re: Your top 5 most underrated/overrated 21 prospects 

Post#59 » by Marcus » Thu Jul 8, 2021 9:29 pm

Big J wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Big J wrote:
Cmon man, of course everyone is going to say nice things about the guy when they are asked.

Green is a natural leader. He’s full of charisma, connects with his teammates, and is beloved by his coaches. He’s got a Curry esque likability factor about him.


you have a habit of just saying random things hoping they stick huh?

bring receipts that Cade is a bad leader or gtfo


I don’t need receipts, just follow their instagram accounts. It’s right out there for everyone to see. You can tell a ton about what guys are like from their social media accounts.


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Re: Your top 5 most underrated/overrated 21 prospects 

Post#60 » by DCasey91 » Thu Jul 8, 2021 10:42 pm

A lot of people are mentioning Roko. I rate all you guys lol

Roko’s Modern Life is a goat tier cartoon show growing up. Anyway I like everything about this kid, he’s a good one. His personality and the way he goes about it just screams pick me in the 1st round.
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