Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread

[The Lamma]

Lowry on a 2-year deal is my jam. He'd make us way more dangerous than we've been this past season.

Gut feeling says this is what ends up happening. Any trade we make requires the other team to agree. A Lonzo signing only works if the offer isn't matched. (RFA). But all it takes for Lowry is moola, so it's a clear path

All it takes for Lonzo is money, moola, $$$ as well. I'd much rather go that route.

"Only works if the offer isn't matched." I understand the preference, but it's a gamble. We put out an offer, they could hold us hostage for days, and ultimately match, while we miss out on other guys we may have wanted. The other thing with successfully signing a RFA and having it actually work out is that it generally requires an overpay.

[br7knicks]

Hey Knicks fans,

You guys need a point guard and Raptors need a C,

What do you think about a Malachi Flynn for Mitch Robinson deal?

U must be out of your fkn mind.... FOH

i'm okay with that trade.


if then they do siakim and gary trent for knox and frank.



that trade is on par with flynn for robinson

[Masai4PM]

I see a lot of you are not big on Malachi Flynn, fair enough he was only a rookie last season and not much sample size,

Let's re-visit this trade again mid-season and maybe then we get more traction.

[KnixtapeH20]

I see a lot of you are not big on Malachi Flynn, fair enough he was only a rookie last season and not much sample size,

Let's re-visit this trade again mid-season and maybe then we get more traction.

Lets not. We're not trading Mitch

[DaGawd]

I see a lot of you are not big on Malachi Flynn, fair enough he was only a rookie last season and not much sample size,

Let's re-visit this trade again mid-season and maybe then we get more traction.

Lets not. We're not trading Mitch

I mean Mitch ain’t untouchable in my eyes.. but for Flynn in a straight up deal? Hard no

[br7knicks]

I see a lot of you are not big on Malachi Flynn, fair enough he was only a rookie last season and not much sample size,

Let's re-visit this trade again mid-season and maybe then we get more traction.

Lets not. We're not trading Mitch

I mean Mitch ain’t untouchable in my eyes.. but for Flynn in a straight up deal? Hard no

yeah, for me he's not untouchable. but that's a silly trade to even contemplate

[KnixtapeH20]

Lets not. We're not trading Mitch

I mean Mitch ain’t untouchable in my eyes.. but for Flynn in a straight up deal? Hard no

yeah, for me he's not untouchable. but that's a silly trade to even contemplate

Listen I'm not saying Mitch is untouchable bc hes my favorite player but that deal is awful. If I'm trading Mitch it's bc it's in a package for a superstar or someone. Mitch is the anchor to our defense and has barely scratched the surface of what hes capable of. Just creates another hole for such an impactful player. We have no lob game w.o him.

[DaGawd]

I mean Mitch ain’t untouchable in my eyes.. but for Flynn in a straight up deal? Hard no

yeah, for me he's not untouchable. but that's a silly trade to even contemplate

Listen I'm not saying Mitch is untouchable bc hes my favorite player but that deal is awful. If I'm trading Mitch it's bc it's in a package for a superstar or someone. Mitch is the anchor to our defense and has barely scratched the surface of what hes capable of. Just creates another hole for such an impactful player. We have no lob game w.o him.

Agreed if I trade Mitch it’s for a piece that clearly upgrades the team. I think Mitch is a real solid rim running big. I don’t really see him adding much else to his game. Maybe a little mid range jumper occasionally down the road but he’s been the same player all 3 years in the league so far. I see him topping out as prime Deandre Jordan which isn’t bad for a second rounder at all

[RHODEY]

My biggest problem with Lonzo is that his skillset says he's a pg but his inability to breakdown defenses in a half court set basically negates his vision because hes relegated to passing around the perimeter and spotting up for 3. I'm sure Stan Van Gundy saw how good Lonzo's vision is and yet look at how they played him. Its because in a half court, he's basically Joe Harris except way worse. His vision is only useful if he is able to navigate a PnR and if he's not a threat in the PnR, then who is he passing to because the defender will sag off and cut off passing lanes instead.

To me I'm torn....I think he can unlock OBi and Mitch ..that's pretty huge

On the bad side he never goes to the rim...like never.

[Knox]

I have decided to go with Lonzo. He fits the timeline, keep building. Old players should not be our best players.

Collin Sexton or Lonzo ???

[Gravy]

Found some clips of Lozno getting to the rim. I think he's still young enough that the coaching staff can have him focus on this more especially with Randle and RJ drawing the defense.

Watch on YouTube

[The Vo Show]

My biggest problem with Lonzo is that his skillset says he's a pg but his inability to breakdown defenses in a half court set basically negates his vision because hes relegated to passing around the perimeter and spotting up for 3. I'm sure Stan Van Gundy saw how good Lonzo's vision is and yet look at how they played him. Its because in a half court, he's basically Joe Harris except way worse. His vision is only useful if he is able to navigate a PnR and if he's not a threat in the PnR, then who is he passing to because the defender will sag off and cut off passing lanes instead.

To me I'm torn....I think he can unlock OBi and Mitch ..that's pretty huge

On the bad side he never goes to the rim...like never.

I think he's young enough and has shown the ability to work on shoring up his weaknesses (his 3pt shooting and changing his shot form) so I am all for bringing him in. Its the price I am concerned with. 20+m reminds me of THJ in that he could grow into his contract but he'll never exceed it. I dont want to be giving out contracts where players grow into it being par as oppose to giving out contracts where the player exceeds its value. So with that all said, I'm definitely all for like a 10-15m per year for 4 years.

[KnicksGadfly]

I have decided to go with Lonzo. He fits the timeline, keep building. Old players should not be our best players.

Collin Sexton or Lonzo ???

In an ideal world, you’d pair them together.

[thebuzzardman]

Thibs sucks, so it doesn't matter who the Knicks trade or draft, apparently

[thebuzzardman]

Found some clips of Lozno getting to the rim. I think he's still young enough that the coaching staff can have him focus on this more especially with Randle and RJ drawing the defense.

Watch on YouTube

I wouldn't want to count on it happening though. I personally go back and forth on getting Lonzo.

IF he comes with another wing who is a + at creating his own shot/getting to the rim, then I'd be ok with it.

[Gravy]

Found some clips of Lozno getting to the rim. I think he's still young enough that the coaching staff can have him focus on this more especially with Randle and RJ drawing the defense.

Watch on YouTube

I wouldn't want to count on it happening though. I personally go back and forth on getting Lonzo.

IF he comes with another wing who is a + at creating his own shot/getting to the rim, then I'd be ok with it.

Lonzo and our draft pick.

[Marty McFly]

Getting vet players as CP3 and Lowry is bad from a cap management perspective.

We are supposed to raise Randle's, Barret's, and Mitch's salaries in the next few years to go a lot over the cap by using their bird's rights.

Consequently, when the vet player retires, we will lose that player without getting any cap space in his place to sign a substitute.

extending Randle is bad from a cap management perspective too.

Extending Randle's contract this offseason a nice move. We would be getting a durable 27 years old star/all NBA player for under 30M/y. It should be a pretty movable deal.

But I agree that re-signing Randle for a supermax salary next offseason (+40M/y) could be awful. Very risk.

Anyway, I assume we will soon capping out and start accumulating contracts to go to spend over 170M/y as Nets and GSW are doing now. We are economical since the ending of the STAT deal.

that is the issue. Randle is a third best player on a chip contending team. I think RJ at his ceiling might be that too. having your capspace taking about by players of that caliber whilst not having a bonfire superstar is putting this team on a treadmill. I don't think it's worth it.

at least with RJ you have a little more breathing room within his rookie salary window.

[RHODEY]

My biggest problem with Lonzo is that his skillset says he's a pg but his inability to breakdown defenses in a half court set basically negates his vision because hes relegated to passing around the perimeter and spotting up for 3. I'm sure Stan Van Gundy saw how good Lonzo's vision is and yet look at how they played him. Its because in a half court, he's basically Joe Harris except way worse. His vision is only useful if he is able to navigate a PnR and if he's not a threat in the PnR, then who is he passing to because the defender will sag off and cut off passing lanes instead.

To me I'm torn....I think he can unlock OBi and Mitch ..that's pretty huge

On the bad side he never goes to the rim...like never.

I think he's young enough and has shown the ability to work on shoring up his weaknesses (his 3pt shooting and changing his shot form) so I am all for bringing him in. Its the price I am concerned with. 20+m reminds me of THJ in that he could grow into his contract but he'll never exceed it. I dont want to be giving out contracts where players grow into it being par as oppose to giving out contracts where the player exceeds its value. So with that all said, I'm definitely all for like a 10-15m per year for 4 years.

Right becausa do you see him as being more than a 4th scoring option on a contender? 20+ million is pretty steep for that.

[RHODEY]

Found some clips of Lozno getting to the rim. I think he's still young enough that the coaching staff can have him focus on this more especially with Randle and RJ drawing the defense.

Watch on YouTube

I wouldn't want to count on it happening though. I personally go back and forth on getting Lonzo.

IF he comes with another wing who is a + at creating his own shot/getting to the rim, then I'd be ok with it.

Like Tre Mann?

[makeitstop]

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