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Who wins the 2021 NBA Finals

Suns in 4
27
6%
Suns in 5
58
13%
Suns in 6
131
30%
Suns in 7
42
10%
Bucks in 4
3
1%
Bucks in 5
10
2%
Bucks in 6
124
28%
Bucks in 7
43
10%
 
Total votes: 438

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Post#2621 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jul 9, 2021 5:44 am

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cjx wrote:This is still a 6 game series at minimum

If I were a betting man I would put money on Milwaukee to win game three.

Can’t blame you, but I’ll take comfort in you picking the Bucks to win tonight in the game thread!


Good one. :)

I sure did not count on Booker and Bridges bringing the energy and offense late. Booker kept hitting deep shots and Bridges was contributing all over. Still, the Bucks were down 97-103 with plenty time remaining.

Phoenix got the fifty-fifty balls and second chance points, on mostly open threes.

I expect a difference in Milwaukee. We shall see.
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Post#2622 » by Jay_Sizzle » Fri Jul 9, 2021 5:44 am

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SK21209 wrote:Those offensive rebounds in the middle of the 4th quarter killed the Bucks. Watching the two teams, the Suns are just more cohesive.


It is very easy to engage in 20/20 hindsight. That said Bobby Portis is a very good rebounder. He played about 6 minutes. Wonder if his energy might have helped late?
Thought Portis got worked over too hard in game 1. Lucky he got on the court at all for game 2.

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Post#2623 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Jul 9, 2021 5:45 am

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Agree on the good offense and bad defense comment, but 50% still feels a bit high. I would expect 40% to be closer to the ‘norm’ which would have meant 12 less points and a very close end to the game.

Still felt the Suns deserved to win both games so far, but the Bucks haven’t done themselves any favours and really aren’t that far off, the Suns have just been a step ahead

It would've been close if that was the case. But then G1 would've been even more of a blow out taking 3pts away from the Bucks' near 50% shooting and and adding 6pts for the Suns who were shooting 32%.

102 - 124


Just to be clear I wasn’t saying if every team shoots 40% on 3’s, I was specifically referring to the % on the ‘open’ 3’s made in this game.

Not taking anything away from the Suns, they’ve been the better team both games and deserve to be up 2-0. I just think the Bucks are closer than they’re getting credit for IF they can do a better job finishing some of the easy baskets they’ve missed and the Suns cool down on the road

I thought Bucks did well controlling the paint and the rebounding. Really used their size to their advantage with Suns also down their other somewhat playable big (Saric). Not a genius observation but putting two 7fters in the way of Ayton certainly makes things tough for him on both ends of the court. That was a good gamble which didn't pay off since Suns shooters were on point today and made them pay. If the Bucks ran the same playbook and Suns hit a few less 3's and got more than 11pts from Khris, it would have been a very tight game.
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Post#2624 » by Hsker4Life » Fri Jul 9, 2021 5:47 am

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:If I were a betting man I would put money on Milwaukee to win game three.

Can’t blame you, but I’ll take comfort in you picking the Bucks to win tonight in the game thread!


Good one. :)

I sure did not count on Booker and Bridges bringing the energy and offense late. Booker kept hitting deep shots and Bridges was contributing all over. Still, the Bucks were down 97-103 with plenty time remaining.

Phoenix got the fifty-fifty balls and second chance points, on mostly open threes.

I expect a difference in Milwaukee. We shall see.


This is still a series, and Milwaukee will come out lit.

PHX is 1-2 in Game 3s this playoffs.
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Post#2625 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Jul 9, 2021 5:51 am

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skones wrote:I'm not even mad at this, I felt like we played good defense and Phoenix just hit a ton of contested broken play shots. Kudos to them for hitting them, but I feel like we made things more difficult than they did for us. Middleton and Jrue just need to be ready for game 3 because tonight ain't it.

I think we're going back to Phoenix 2-2. Officiating was a non issue tonight, but we'll get the home whistle in 3.

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Non-issue? Not sure many more calls can go the Bucks way. Glad that each team got a game called their way, but look for the refs to tighten up. Especially if Torrie Craig's injury caused by Giannis is season ending.

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After game 1, just shut up. You got the whistle in game 1, and you're still out here bagging on officials? I gave your team credit for hitting really difficult shots, and you're still at it? What more do you want?

It swung pretty hard back the other way didn't it? Take away the 6 meaningless FT's to extend the game at the end, it would've been 23 to 8 lol curious you call it a non-issue in this game but when the Suns had a 25 to 16 FT advantage in G1, the refs were somehow in the Suns pocket.
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Post#2626 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jul 9, 2021 5:54 am

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SK21209 wrote:Those offensive rebounds in the middle of the 4th quarter killed the Bucks. Watching the two teams, the Suns are just more cohesive.


It is very easy to engage in 20/20 hindsight. That said Bobby Portis is a very good rebounder. He played about 6 minutes. Wonder if his energy might have helped late?
Thought Portis got worked over too hard in game 1. Lucky he got on the court at all for game 2.

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Game one Milwaukee was not fully prepared coming off last series. I blame schematics more than a limited player.

Let’s see what Happens in Milwaukee. Portis is a huge crowd favorite. Rebounds and energy points are difference makers. I expect Portis will play a better game.
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Post#2627 » by skones » Fri Jul 9, 2021 5:55 am

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Jay_Sizzle wrote:Non-issue? Not sure many more calls can go the Bucks way. Glad that each team got a game called their way, but look for the refs to tighten up. Especially if Torrie Craig's injury caused by Giannis is season ending.

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After game 1, just shut up. You got the whistle in game 1, and you're still out here bagging on officials? I gave your team credit for hitting really difficult shots, and you're still at it? What more do you want?

It swung pretty hard back the other way didn't it? Take away the 6 meaningless FT's to extend the game at the end, it would've been 23 to 8 lol curious you call it a non-issue in this game but when the Suns had a 25 to 16 FT advantage in G1, the refs were somehow in the Suns pocket.


Care to tell me what the free throw disparity was in the first half of game 1 batman? Matter of fact for both games please.
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It is very easy to engage in 20/20 hindsight. That said Bobby Portis is a very good rebounder. He played about 6 minutes. Wonder if his energy might have helped late?
Thought Portis got worked over too hard in game 1. Lucky he got on the court at all for game 2.

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Game one Milwaukee was not fully prepared coming off last series. I blame schematics more than a limited player.

Let’s see what Happens in Milwaukee. Portis is a huge crowd favorite. Rebounds and energy points are difference makers. I expect Portis will play a better game.
Portis played four minutes tonight.
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Post#2629 » by Jay_Sizzle » Fri Jul 9, 2021 5:57 am

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FreeThrowLine wrote:I feel bad for the Bucks cause they were right there, but when a team makes 20-40 threes it’s really hard to win, especially when you’re wasting so many free throws



Tbf though that was good offense from Suns and bad defense from Bucks. We just kept moving the ball and getting so many open looks at 3. They'll drop most nights when you can generate that many good looks.
That's what I am thinking. Maybe not 50%, but if you leave Booker, Bridges, and Cam Johnson completely wide open -- they will hit 40+ % almost every time.

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Post#2630 » by Hitachi77 » Fri Jul 9, 2021 6:00 am

Giannis is a monster. The only bad thing he did is make a three, because it will probably give him confidence to keep taking them.

CP3 would have been the perfect complement to Giannis and Middleton. So lucky he ended up in Phoenix instead.
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Post#2631 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jul 9, 2021 6:01 am

Khris Middleton has attempted 26 FGAs and 16 FGAs in two games.

Zero free throws.

Forty-two shots without one single FTA!
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Post#2632 » by Hsker4Life » Fri Jul 9, 2021 6:01 am

Total FTs this series:

Milwaukee - 39
Phoenix - 40

And that one extra FT for PHX? Lopez’s flagrant foul on CP3
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Post#2633 » by DRK » Fri Jul 9, 2021 6:03 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Khris Middleton has attempted 26 FGAs and 16 FGAs in two games.

Zero free throws.

Forty-two shots without one single FTA!

Middleton is settling for fadeaways on 90% of his possessions
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Post#2634 » by Jay_Sizzle » Fri Jul 9, 2021 6:03 am

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skones wrote:I'm not even mad at this, I felt like we played good defense and Phoenix just hit a ton of contested broken play shots. Kudos to them for hitting them, but I feel like we made things more difficult than they did for us. Middleton and Jrue just need to be ready for game 3 because tonight ain't it.

I think we're going back to Phoenix 2-2. Officiating was a non issue tonight, but we'll get the home whistle in 3.

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Non-issue? Not sure many more calls can go the Bucks way. Glad that each team got a game called their way, but look for the refs to tighten up. Especially if Torrie Craig's injury caused by Giannis is season ending.

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After game 1, just shut up. You got the whistle in game 1, and you're still out here bagging on officials? I gave your team credit for hitting really difficult shots, and you're still at it? What more do you want?
Glad you can admit the obvious. I think it is past your bedtime, it's time for you to go to sleep. Good night to you (and the Bucks as well).

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Post#2635 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Jul 9, 2021 6:06 am

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After game 1, just shut up. You got the whistle in game 1, and you're still out here bagging on officials? I gave your team credit for hitting really difficult shots, and you're still at it? What more do you want?

It swung pretty hard back the other way didn't it? Take away the 6 meaningless FT's to extend the game at the end, it would've been 23 to 8 lol curious you call it a non-issue in this game but when the Suns had a 25 to 16 FT advantage in G1, the refs were somehow in the Suns pocket.


Care to tell me what the free throw disparity was in the first half of game 1 batman? Matter of fact for both games please.

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Game 2: 6 to 1 so +5 Bucks. Bucks didn't get called for a single foul until 8:17 in the 2nd quarter
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Post#2636 » by pj0tr » Fri Jul 9, 2021 6:20 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:It swung pretty hard back the other way didn't it? Take away the 6 meaningless FT's to extend the game at the end, it would've been 23 to 8 lol curious you call it a non-issue in this game but when the Suns had a 25 to 16 FT advantage in G1, the refs were somehow in the Suns pocket.


Care to tell me what the free throw disparity was in the first half of game 1 batman? Matter of fact for both games please.

Sure Robin

Game 1: 4 to 12 so +8 Suns
Game 2: 6 to 1 so +5 Bucks. Bucks didn't get called for a single foul until 8:17 in the 2nd quarter


Don't tell the Bucks fans the Clippers shot nearly 55 more FTs than the Suns did in the Western Conference Finals.
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Post#2637 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jul 9, 2021 6:20 am

Hsker4Life wrote:Total FTs this series:

Milwaukee - 39
Phoenix - 40

And that one extra FT for PHX? Lopez’s flagrant foul on CP3

You missed my point.

Middleton is not creating contact. He’s settling.

I also think home court officiating will be different. Prediction; Middleton will attempt at least 5 free throws next game.
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Post#2638 » by pj0tr » Fri Jul 9, 2021 6:23 am

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Hsker4Life wrote:Total FTs this series:

Milwaukee - 39
Phoenix - 40

And that one extra FT for PHX? Lopez’s flagrant foul on CP3

You missed my point.

Middleton is not creating contact. He’s settling.

I also think home court officiating will be different. Prediction; Middleton will attempt at least 5 free throws next game.


As cliche as it sounds, the Bucks best chance is to just extend the series and slowly overpower Phoenix with their physicality.

Have Holiday just literally beat the crap out of Paul, and eventually bank on him wearing down.

Plus, Phoenix is without Saric, and now possibly without Craig.

Milwaukee's best shot is to stay big and literally just beat Phoenix to a puip in the paint and just hack the hell out of Booker and Paul to wear them down.

As a Suns fan, if the Suns split the series in Milwaukee, I think this is over in 5. If Milwaukee wins both, this goes 7, and the physicality factor becomes huge, along with the Suns accumulating injuries on their bench.
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Post#2639 » by Hsker4Life » Fri Jul 9, 2021 6:26 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Hsker4Life wrote:Total FTs this series:

Milwaukee - 39
Phoenix - 40

And that one extra FT for PHX? Lopez’s flagrant foul on CP3

You missed my point.

Middleton is not creating contact. He’s settling.

I also think home court officiating will be different. Prediction; Middleton will attempt at least 5 free throws next game.


I did not miss your point, as I wasn’t even replying to you or anything you posted.
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Post#2640 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jul 9, 2021 6:29 am

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Khris Middleton has attempted 26 FGAs and 16 FGAs in two games.

Zero free throws.

Forty-two shots without one single FTA!

Middleton is settling for fadeaways on 90% of his possessions

Exactly!

Giannis seems like a nice man. Too nice, maybe. I’m sure he respects his teammate but I wish he’d light into Middleton for settling.
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