Spencer will re-sign with Nets….but for only the near max

Paradise · Post #1 » by **Paradise** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 7:12 pm

“For all the fans that think like because I opted out like I have to leave or something like that. No, this is very much in the Nets hands. You feel me? And I think my full max is five years/$196 million or something like that. And nobody is sitting here saying I’m going to get five years/$196 million so before anybody tries to kill me, nobody is saying that.

“But the Nets have the ability to do something other people can’t. If the Nets come to the table like that and they’re being aggressive and saying, ‘Hey, we got five years/$125 million for you,’ like I would say, there’s a high likelihood that I go back to the Nets.

But if they don’t come to the table like that, and they’re like ‘Oh, we’re going to give you a three for 60,’ well, anybody can do that.”

The Daily News learned the Mavericks made their interest in Dinwiddie known and are a candidate to sign him in free agency. Multiple reports also suggest the Miami Heat are interested in signing Dinwiddie to join Jimmy Butler and Bam Adebayo. There will be no shortage of suitors for Dinwiddie’s service

1. Re-sign Dinwiddie with his full Bird rights

2. Let him walk for nothing in return, or

3. Sign-and-trade him to another team

Good luck on your new team, brother.

Hello Brooklyn · Post #2 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 7:34 pm

I really did want Spencer back, but hes lost his mind if he expects that kind of deal from us.

Go get your money bro. We will figure it out.

Claud · Post #3 » by **Claud** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 7:40 pm

MrDollarBills · Post #4 » by **MrDollarBills** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 7:40 pm

Spencer was a good soldier, and he deserves his money. I wish him all the best and I hope some team pays him handsomely because he worked his ass off to even get to this point.

mademan · Post #5 » by **mademan** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 7:45 pm

Nothing wrong with what he's saying, imo. Just stating that if the money is similar, he values being a starter/more important to a team rather than coming off the bench for Kyrie/Harden/being insurance, which is fine, imo. Dinwiddie came up from nothing and worked his way to his 2nd contract where he's slated to make somewhere around ~20 mill. Dude clearly believes in his own abilities, and it's paid off for him thus far

DarkXaero · Post #6 » by **DarkXaero** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 7:50 pm

The thread title is not what he said, that's a clickbait headline.

Paradise · Post #7 » by **Paradise** » Fri Jul 9, 2021 10:30 pm

DarkXaero wrote:The thread title is not what he said, that's a clickbait headline.

That’s exactly what he said. Anything north of $60 million from us is what he will consider. It’s not happening. There’s no reality where Marks is giving him 70-90 million.

DarkXaero · Post #8 » by **DarkXaero** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:03 am

Paradise wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:The thread title is not what he said, that's a clickbait headline.

That’s exactly what he said. Anything north of $60 million from us is what he will consider. It’s not happening. There’s no reality where Marks is giving him 70-90 million.

No, and those numbers are very much out of context, cmon dude. You're completely disregarding the number of years part of this, and making it seem that your interpretation is what he said.

MrDollarBills · Post #9 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:04 am

Paradise wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:The thread title is not what he said, that's a clickbait headline.

That’s exactly what he said. Anything north of $60 million from us is what he will consider. It’s not happening. There’s no reality where Marks is giving him 70-90 million.

The open market will dictate what he gets and if someone pays him that, good for him. I've got no ill will towards Spencer wanting that much. He deserves it.

Sharcm1 · Post #10 » by **Sharcm1** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:13 pm

Spencer is all about the money at this point in his career. That’s fine. He should try to make all he can. But I think he is slightly delusional if he thinks another team is going to give him over 100 mill over years. Maybe had he been able to come back and show he’s fine. But the guy is coming of an ACL tear. And has had one previously in his career. Who takes a risk on someone like that. I know ACL tears aren’t perceived as bad anymore. But still it will limit his explosiveness and that’s how he plays.

Sharcm1 · Post #11 » by **Sharcm1** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:15 pm

Who ever gave him advise was stupid. He should have opted in. Took his 13 mill. Played and shown what he still can do on our championship team. And he would have gotten paid big time next summer.

Hello Brooklyn · Post #12 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:16 pm

Spencer won't get that much on the open market either. Dallas or Miami would get killed if they gave him 100 million off a torn ACL.

mademan · Post #13 » by **mademan** » Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:50 pm

Sharcm1 wrote:Who ever gave him advise was stupid. He should have opted in. Took his 13 mill. Played and shown what he still can do on our championship team. And he would have gotten paid big time next summer.

Opting in would be the worst advice anybody could ever give him. I think bottom end he'll get is 20ish per year in a multi year contract. He's not KD. Another big injury and he might end up playing for minimums. Or even worse, he doesnt come back well from injury and he kills his money still. He's got a great shot to make some money this year from teams looking for a young vet PG (like Chicago or NY) with little competition on the FA market. He honestly might be the most valued FA this summer with his only competition being a 35 year old Lowry.

Opting out is the only sensible decision.

Prokorov · Post #14 » by **Prokorov** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:49 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:I really did want Spencer back, but hes lost his mind if he expects that kind of deal from us.

Go get your money bro. We will figure it out.

i dont think that what he expects... i think he is saying thats what it will take to close him without him listening to all offers.

and he is right. if we are just gonna roll out a 3/60 offer, anyone can do that and he will get those. someone is gonna pay him 4/80 as a floor. keep in mind, guys get overpaid all the time... all it takes is:

-A GM in his last year who needs to win/turn it around or is fired. he doesnt care if the long term deal is awful, he just wants to keep his job another year

-A GM who strikes out on plan A,B,C,D,E. he doesnt care he overpaid dinwiddie, no one else would take his money, so the extra cap is irrelevant

i wouldnt be surprised to see dinwiddie be in the ballpark of 4/90+

Prokorov · Post #15 » by **Prokorov** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:51 am

Sharcm1 wrote:Spencer is all about the money at this point in his career. That’s fine. He should try to make all he can. But I think he is slightly delusional if he thinks another team is going to give him over 100 mill over years. Maybe had he been able to come back and show he’s fine. But the guy is coming of an ACL tear. And has had one previously in his career. Who takes a risk on someone like that. I know ACL tears aren’t perceived as bad anymore. But still it will limit his explosiveness and that’s how he plays.

no one worries about ACLs anymore really. i dont think it will deter anyone

Hello Brooklyn · Post #16 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:36 pm

I mean who is really going to give him more than 60/3?

Miami? Seems far fetched that they would give him such a big contract when they are still shooting for big fish.

Dallas? I guess its possible. Does he really fit next to Luka? Not a good shooter or defender. Needs the ball.

New York? This is a perfect fit. Would make sense. But why overpay? Do they really want a bad contract?

If its 3/60 why take it from someone else over us? I guess purely for playing time?

Galou · Post #17 » by **Galou** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 8:21 pm

It would be great if he resigns with the Nets lmao

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therealbig3 · Post #18 » by **therealbig3** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:10 pm

Is there a problem with giving Dinwiddie a big contract like that? Honestly?

Where else is our money gonna go? And are we gonna be able to essentially add a player as good as Dinwiddie with MLE, vet minimum, and buyout options?

We basically have the opportunity to sign one of the best free agents on the market despite being in the luxury tax. Not sure why people are acting like that's not a big deal. If we had Dinwiddie healthy for this playoff run, we're likely still competing for the championship.

ecuhus1981 · Post #19 » by **ecuhus1981** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:13 pm

Good for Spencer, he's fighting for his worth. He's his own agent, so he's literally doing his job by taking up his value.

Conversely, we have our own calculus on him, along with our other contracts. I would love to keep him for one season at $25mil, if more lucrative deals don't materialize as he hopes. If not, maybe we can at least work out a S&T that suits everyone.

3pt_chucker · Post #20 » by **3pt_chucker** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:50 am

Looking accross the league I'm not sure what advice Din is getting? Last season Fred Vanvleet 4/85. I really don't think Spencer is worth that much more than FVV. I think out offer should be somewhere in the 4/80s range with the last year being a player option.

That said I think it would be a waste of an asset if we let him walk for free or do something like a sign and trade where we probs won't get a great asset in return.

If he comes back being very healthy and the looks like the Spencer of old, that contract with be super trade-able and many teams will be interested. We could easily recoup some future assets OR a player we think that fits better(defensive wing or a big they like)

Joe Tsai has shown that he's willing to do whatever it takes. I can easily see him footing the tax bill.

If he signs somewhere for a sub $100M contract I'd be low key pissed.