2020-2021 College Basketball / NBA Draft

Negrodamus · Post #1021 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:21 pm

I'm still pulled towards Aaron Wiggins. Dude has put in the effort over three years to be a two way player.

Kobblehead · Post #1022 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:22 pm

Preston can't score off the dribble. Which is pretty weird considering the position he plays and the low level competition he plays at. He's just a great passer with terrible hair.

Kobblehead · Post #1023 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:26 pm

Marreon Jackson is the MAC PG worth giving a shot to, IMO.

Justin Turner is the best scorer in the conference, though.

Kobblehead · Post #1024 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:29 pm

Mik317 wrote:we should stay away from any player with wonky jumpers

for their sake if anything

Paul Reed will succeed where others have failed.

stormi · Post #1025 » by **stormi** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:36 pm

Jason Preston gives Brogdon combo guard vibes. Would have to get a bit more athletic, spend time working on his body... and also totally rework that free throw mechanic. Unreal passer though, and pretty outstanding when it comes to manipulating the p&r.

Haven't seen enough of David Johnson, and perusing his tape the main play that caught my eye was when he did the in&out behind the back dribble to split the defender and kick it out to the corner. Low assist numbers though, no free throw line presence either. A target for #50 I guess if none of the other players I like better fall.

Kobblehead · Post #1026 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:41 pm

Johnson's basketball IQ and passing vision are pretty phenomenal. I can't explain the dip this year, but in a bit role as a freshman, he posted a near 36% assist percentage. And nearly all his buckets are unassisted. I truly believe people are going to be kicking themselves for letting him drop so far in this draft. I could easily see him being one of the 12-15 guys that actually wind up mattering in this draft. Bank on youth/shotcreating and you won't often be lead astray.

stormi · Post #1027 » by **stormi** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:25 am

I'll deep dive further into his tape later since you love him so much.

stormi · Post #1028 » by **stormi** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:35 am

So... David Johnson is interesting. He has great size, has traits that can predict him being a transferable defender at the next level and can really make impressive advanced passes cross court with either hand. And he's pretty solid in catch and shoot 3 scenarios.

I'm curious where your infatuation with him comes from though considering he seems average at best off the bounce, not a great separator and someone that can be trapped into committing poor turnovers, due to a w.i.p handle.

stormi · Post #1029 » by **stormi** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:45 am

Freaky for a 7 footer of his size to be moving this swiftly.

Post #1030 » by **Foshan** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:08 am

stormi wrote:

Freaky for a 7 footer of his size to be moving this swiftly.

I'd love to grab a guy with that kind of size with #50.

76ciology · Post #1031 » by **76ciology** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:36 am

Foshan wrote:
stormi wrote:

Freaky for a 7 footer of his size to be moving this swiftly.

I'd love to grab a guy with that kind of size with #50.

Reminds me of the old arnett moultrie workout video

stormi · Post #1032 » by **stormi** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:31 pm

Foshan wrote:
stormi wrote:

Freaky for a 7 footer of his size to be moving this swiftly.

I'd love to grab a guy with that kind of size with #50.

Tremendous defender in space and moves his feet pretty well. Also a freak on the glass. He's bigger and better than Robert Williams who the Celtics discarded a first on a few years back.

The fact that he has hands and flashes some offensive upside makes me think he could be a starter one day on a good team.

Watch on YouTube

Kobblehead · Post #1033 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:01 pm

Big fan of Queta. Everyone in the East should have him on their radar to combat Embiid. He's legit great defensively.

stormi · Post #1034 » by **stormi** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:01 pm

Kessler Edwards is going to be a really good 4 at the next level.

Kobblehead · Post #1035 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:35 pm

stormi wrote:Kessler Edwards is going to be a really good 4 at the next level.

I've had trouble embracing Kessler as a prospect. I don't think has has any shotcreating talent to go on the ball and make plays. And in terms of being a role playing PF, I don't think he's good enough on the glass or defensively. I get serious Semi Ojaleeheheheheh vibes from him, in terms of being a good shooter with popcorn muscles with no defined role or skillset.

I feel like nobody from this conference (Gonzaga guys, not included) stacks up to Malik Fitts' intrigue from last year. Jeremiah Bailey is going to be a sick defensive role player but he won't enter the draft until next year.

stormi · Post #1036 » by **stormi** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:42 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
stormi wrote:Kessler Edwards is going to be a really good 4 at the next level.

I've had trouble embracing Kessler as a prospect. I don't think has has any shotcreating talent to go on the ball and make plays. And in terms of being a role playing PF, I don't think he's good enough on the glass or defensively. I get serious Semi Ojaleeheheheheh vibes from him, in terms of being a good shooter with popcorn muscles with no defined role or skillset.

I feel like nobody from this conference (Gonzaga guys, not included) stacks up to Malik Fitts' intrigue from last year. Jeremiah Bailey is going to be a sick defensive role player but he won't enter the draft until next year.

I was going to include role player in my post. I don't see crazy upside, but then again he's flashed some ability to put it on the floor and attack the basket. He's going to be a really good & positionally diverse defender from day 1 though. The way he sticks with guys off the dribble or in the post and blocks shots is really impressive.

Negrodamus · Post #1037 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:49 pm

Watch on YouTube

Trade for DeRozan and #12 and draft a PF who will actually shoot from anywhere and does the same transition offense as Ben.

Mik317 · Post #1038 » by **Mik317** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:01 pm

I wonder who Elton promised this year

Kobblehead · Post #1039 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:30 pm

Mik317 wrote:I wonder who Elton promised this year

Raiquan Gray from Florida State is like 6'6" 260. Sound like anyone we know?

LeonJordanJr24 · Post #1040 » by **LeonJordanJr24** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:39 pm

Get Trey Murphy and call it a draft.