Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!!

ItsDanger · Post #941 » by **ItsDanger** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:26 pm

Kuminga is a 2 year project. Perfect for Orlando. Plus, he's a 3/4 and no path to playing time. ie. not here. In assessing BPA, development time to at least starters minutes must be considered. Could he be the best player in 5 years? Maybe. If thats our timeline, we should be making more moves.

Bruin · Post #942 » by **Bruin** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:27 pm

Suggs might not start the first few games but I think he’ll earn Nicks trust pretty quickly. Nurse will see throughout training camp how much Suggs brings to the table

WuTang_OG · Post #943 » by **WuTang_OG** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:40 pm

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duppyy · Post #944 » by **duppyy** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:45 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:FORZA ITALIAAAA

Wrong thread Bargnani

WuTang_OG · Post #945 » by **WuTang_OG** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:46 pm

So much smoke with Sexton. CLE put it out there lets see what bad deal they make

WuTang_OG · Post #946 » by **WuTang_OG** » Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:48 pm

duppyy wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:FORZA ITALIAAAA

Wrong thread Bargnani

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mtcan · Post #947 » by **mtcan** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:06 am

WuTang_OG wrote:FORZA ITALIAAAA

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C_Money · Post #948 » by **C_Money** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:08 am

Looks like its not coming home after all LOL

PhilBlackson · Post #949 » by **PhilBlackson** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:11 am

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Suggs is gonna win ROY, can already feel it. Especially if we come back with a real centre and no injuries. The leap of us being a “bottom” team in the East (that’s the narrative at least) back into the middle or even top 4 at our peak is gonna help. Also think he fits perfectly with how
= we play and will look amazing because of it

I like Suggs but not bloody likely lol

Suggs will be coming off the bench for one of Fred or GT Jr, even he impresses he's not gonna get the lions share of minutes ahead of 2 big contracts the Raps just about let the ink dry on lol

Meanwhile it doesn't matter if DET or HOU drafts Cade...he will be starting and more importantly the offense will be built around him. I mean not to mention but also the better player...

I don’t think GTjr is a lock to start the whole season and also Pascal might come back slowly which leaves more minutes for a smaller FVV/Suggs/GTJ/OG/X lineup

May not start the whole season but he will at minimum the first half season...and Pascal is only expected to miss maybe a month and I'm sorry while perhaps you would like to think Nick is gonna full Casey Ball...the FAR more likely starter will be a guy who just had great season, ALREADY earned Nick's trust and of course naturally plays the position
- CHRIS BOUCHER.

So no I'm sorry it all projects for Suggs to start the season off the bench and I know people are down on Trent for his final rough stretch of the season when he was dealing with an injury and inconsistent minutes in and out of the lineup but FOR THE MOST PART in Gary's career he's been very efficient and one of the better 3+D guards in the league. He was great for POR and started really coming on for us until the injuries so I wouldn't be making the assumption he'll be coming out of the starting lineup. I actually won't be surprised if he impresses again fully healthy and ready to go...

All that said, Cade will START and be FEATURED, day #1 and he will get the huge headstart on Suggs and once he gets into his own groove, it's not likely Suggs can catch up or put up the stats anywhere close enough for it to even be a realistic to surpass Cade, just like Edwards couldn't catch LaMelo. Suggs would have to put on massive performances just to make people reconsider. I'm sorry but with our coaching likely scheming to increase OG's role and Trent's all while keeping Whiny P happy, I just really think your hopes are more emotional than logical when you really consider the situations each will enter...

WuTang_OG · Post #950 » by **WuTang_OG** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:12 am

C_Money wrote:Looks like its not coming home after all LOL

Read on Twitter

WuTang_OG · Post #951 » by **WuTang_OG** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:14 am

Vranz gaining momentup. Some think he'll crack first roiund by OKC

AkelaLoneWolf · Post #952 » by **AkelaLoneWolf** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:21 am

So shifting the direction of the thread a little bit: Whats the deal with Jalen Johnson? He's dropped all the way down to 13 from around 5-7. Is it just the character issues or he hasn't performed well in workouts as well?

mtcan · Post #953 » by **mtcan** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:27 am

WuTang_OG wrote:Vranz gaining momentup. Some think he'll crack first roiund by OKC

Vrenz and Poku...that's a lot of length...

WuTang_OG · Post #954 » by **WuTang_OG** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:31 am

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Pick No. 3

Jalen Green (G League Ignite, SG, 2002)

Green looks like the highest-upside scorer in the draft, which could be tough to pass on at No. 3. Cleveland could put a lot of pressure on defenses between Collin Sexton and Green, who could play the other wing position if Isaac Okoro moves to small-ball 4.

Cleveland could also draft Green and shop Sexton for more frontcourt help or defense.

Evan Mobley (USC, PF/C, Freshman)

With an offense built around guard play, the Cavaliers should be open to the idea of drafting Mobley. It may mean having to let Jarrett Allen walk in restricted free agency. But Mobley offers a similarly monster defensive ceiling and far more offensive upside.

The Cavaliers could also think about re-signing Allen if they're confident in Mobley's shooting development. Flashes of touch, ball-handling and face-up play, mixed with his unique defensive mobility, suggest Mobley can play some power forward.

Jalen Suggs (Gonzaga, PG/SG, Freshman)

The Cavaliers could think about drafting Suggs if they know they can get a huge haul for Darius Garland or Sexton via trade. It's tough to picture all three playing together, though with Suggs' positional athleticism, passing, pull-up game and defense, he may have a best-player-available case that's difficult for Cleveland to pass on.

Pick No. 2

Jalen Green (G League Ignite, SG, 2002)

Assuming Cade Cunningham is gone, the Houston Rockets will be looking at three prospects, with Green offering the most scoring potential. Christian Wood isn't a realistic top option to take this team to another level. The Rockets could think of Green as another Devin Booker or Donovan Mitchell type with his advanced shot-creation and three-level shot-making. He and would make for a difficult wing pairing for opponents to stop.

Evan Mobley (USC, PF/C, Freshman)

Mobley can't score like Green, but he can help change Houston's identity with his unique defensive versatility and rim protection. Still, for a 7-footer, his skill set creates plenty of offensive upside fueled by open-floor ball-handling, a pull-up and floater, easy finishing ability and post-passing.

Jalen Suggs (Gonzaga, PG, Freshman)

Suggs is a wild card for Houston or a trade-down target if the Toronto Raptors are offering something substantial to move up for Green or Mobley. John Wall isn't the long-term answer for the Rockets. They could see star power with Suggs' athleticism, transition game, passing skills, off-the-dribble shooting, defensive anticipation and winning intangibles.

Pick 4.
Jalen Suggs (Gonzaga, PG, Freshman)

In all likelihood, Evan Mobley and Jalen Green will be off the board for the Toronto Raptors. Suggs is widely viewed as one of the top prospects in the next tier, and with Kyle Lowry entering free agency at 35 years old, you can bet the Raptors are weighing letting him walk to draft a new point guard.

Suggs would be an easy fit and replacement due to his passing, ability to play a combo role and tough defense.

Jonathan Kuminga (G League Ignite, SF/PF, 2002)

With Fred VanVleet, OG Anunoby and Pascal Siakam, the Raptors don't have a clear opening for a new scoring wing or forward. But Kuminga may also have a best-player-available case based on his big-man size, perimeter skills, speed/power and defensive tools.

Scottie Barnes (Florida State, SF/PF, Freshman)

Players in the 6'9", 227-pound range don't handle the ball, pass and move defensively like Barnes, who may be too unique to pass on. The Raptors could think out of the box and play a monster defensive frontcourt featuring Anunoby, Siakam and Barnes as a small-ball 5.

Raps1103 · Post #955 » by **Raps1103** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:32 am

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Looks like Cavs are shopping Sexton… feels like they’re gonna pounce on Suggs!

Jalen Green anyone ?

simple_jack · Post #956 » by **simple_jack** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:35 am

Raps1103 wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=21

Looks like Cavs are shopping Sexton… feels like they’re gonna pounce on Suggs!

Jalen Green anyone ?

Nah we getting Mobley

Raps1103 · Post #957 » by **Raps1103** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:37 am

simple_jack wrote:
Raps1103 wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=21

Looks like Cavs are shopping Sexton… feels like they’re gonna pounce on Suggs!

Jalen Green anyone ?

Nah we getting Mobley

I personally would prefer Mobley .. but I don’t see Houston passing on him.. hopefully I’m wrong

WuTang_OG · Post #958 » by **WuTang_OG** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:38 am

Raps1103 wrote:
simple_jack wrote:
Raps1103 wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=21

Looks like Cavs are shopping Sexton… feels like they’re gonna pounce on Suggs!

Jalen Green anyone ?

Nah we getting Mobley

I personally would prefer Mobley .. but I don’t see Houston passing on him.. hopefully I’m wrong

Its almost a lock they take Green #2.

Mobley is coming home.

simple_jack · Post #959 » by **simple_jack** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:38 am

Raps1103 wrote:
simple_jack wrote:
Raps1103 wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=21

Looks like Cavs are shopping Sexton… feels like they’re gonna pounce on Suggs!

Jalen Green anyone ?

Nah we getting Mobley

I personally would prefer Mobley .. but I don’t see Houston passing on him.. hopefully I’m wrong

I think Houston will take Green. They miss having that Harden like talent.

Mobley will possibly be at 4 like Bosh in 03

Raps1103 · Post #960 » by **Raps1103** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:47 am

simple_jack wrote:
Raps1103 wrote:
simple_jack wrote:

Nah we getting Mobley

I personally would prefer Mobley .. but I don’t see Houston passing on him.. hopefully I’m wrong

I think Houston will take Green. They miss having that Harden like talent.

Mobley will possibly be at 4 like Bosh in 03

I hope so !
Puts a potential future star player in a position of need !!
I hope we get Mobley