Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor

Meat · Post #221 » by **Meat** » Thu Jul 1, 2021 10:29 pm

Oscirus wrote:yall thought we had turnstile defense before sexton...
Betta get some more centers

who thought the knicks... widely viewed as a top3 defense in the league had a turnstile defense? who
WHO
WHo

Knox · Post #222 » by **Knox** » Thu Jul 1, 2021 10:32 pm

Jeffrey wrote:We would probably have to take Kevin Love's contract to give the Cavs a lesser package.

Love is usable and could be a future expiring we could use to our advantage

Meat · Post #223 » by **Meat** » Thu Jul 1, 2021 10:33 pm

Jeffrey wrote:We would probably have to take Kevin Love's contract to give the Cavs a lesser package.

the cavs would need to give up draft capital to move love i'd imagine

Knox · Post #224 » by **Knox** » Thu Jul 1, 2021 10:37 pm

Meat wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:We would probably have to take Kevin Love's contract to give the Cavs a lesser package.

the cavs would need to give up draft capital to move love i'd imagine

Could be a better deal then overspending on a Dame or SGA. SGA is a Bad A#%^ for the record

Marty McFly · Post #225 » by **Marty McFly** » Fri Jul 2, 2021 3:25 am

DaGawd wrote:
SARGO127 wrote:Imagine if we can trade for Sexton and SGA with Barrett at the 3?! Oweeeee

Y’all be on hard drugs

3toheadmelo · Post #226 » by **3toheadmelo** » Fri Jul 2, 2021 4:40 pm

There’s some encouraging stuff about his playmaking

This is what he played next to

3toheadmelo · Post #227 » by **3toheadmelo** » Fri Jul 2, 2021 4:51 pm

Read on Twitter

blanko · Post #228 » by **blanko** » Fri Jul 2, 2021 4:54 pm

He scores at an efficent rate. He is a high percentage shooter from the field and the 3.

He would be an upgrade above an aging rose and if we take on loves contract. I think we can offer all our draft picks from this year and mavs 1st to make a run for sga.

Sexton, sga, rj, randle, mitch.
I.Q Obi reggie taj love

And if sexton asks for to much we can do a sign trade for him.

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DaGawd · Post #229 » by **DaGawd** » Fri Jul 2, 2021 5:09 pm

Brock Aller is supposedly the creative cap wiz right? And he used to work for the Cavs… I’m all for taking on Love to lower the price for acquiring Sexton

ScienceOfLosing · Post #230 » by **ScienceOfLosing** » Fri Jul 2, 2021 5:16 pm

DaGawd wrote:Brock Aller is supposedly the creative cap wiz right? And he used to work for the Cavs… I’m all for taking on Love to lower the price for acquiring Sexton

Not that I want to trade him, but the Cavs were (and are) VERY high on Obi. I wasn't so warm to Obi but now I think the guy might be a special player. A swap of Obi for Sexton is a real possibility. Maybe we have to give up some draft capital, but I'm not even sure. (I just say that because the Cavs really want Obi imo.)

That said, I'm not so against taking on Love's salary either.

I think we get to quality players at 19 and 21 and would prefer to keep those picks, even over trading up.

ScienceOfLosing · Post #231 » by **ScienceOfLosing** » Fri Jul 2, 2021 5:17 pm

Knox wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:We would probably have to take Kevin Love's contract to give the Cavs a lesser package.

Love is usable and could be a future expiring we could use to our advantage

I remember having quite a few expiring's and it never helped us. But, we have assets now and the Knicks rarely had much worth trading.

DaGawd · Post #232 » by **DaGawd** » Fri Jul 2, 2021 5:24 pm

After we trade for Sexton trade whatever is left for SGA.. even tho I question how serious OKC is about actually moving him

ScienceOfLosing · Post #233 » by **ScienceOfLosing** » Fri Jul 2, 2021 5:29 pm

DaGawd wrote:After we trade for Sexton trade whatever is left for SGA.. even tho I question how serious OKC is about actually moving him

There is that possibility and maybe it puts us closer to winning, but I want to have some semblance of home grown talent as well.
So, make sure we keep some of the kids.

Post #234 » by **Capn'O** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:56 pm

This morning it's out on the wiretap that he's definitely on the block. If our homework on him checks out with Thibs we need to strike. This could be a Sprewell like buy low situation.

BowlRips · Post #235 » by **BowlRips** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:02 pm

Could be a massive buy low.
He could definitely score and is only 22. Could be a diamond in the rough.
His defense is supposedly weak, but I thought that was his strength in college? I could see a massive buy in especially if he wants to get paid.
What would I give up? I guess I would Obi - but he's just such a likeable guy.
If we talking 19 or 21 or both.. I think you have to do it.

Obviously his contract makes this a bit sticky.. If you pass on the extension this off-season, he has a 19mil cap hold next summer, which is not ideal if your plan is to go big game hunting.
But if he turns out to be the answer at the PG position, having him on that caphold is a positive.

nykballa2k4 · Post #236 » by **nykballa2k4** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:17 pm

Capn'O wrote:This morning it's out on the wiretap that he's definitely on the block. If our homework on him checks out with Thibs we need to strike. This could be a Sprewell like buy low situation.

Cavs may want to avoid paying him, but they are not giving the kid away.

Post #237 » by **Capn'O** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:59 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:This morning it's out on the wiretap that he's definitely on the block. If our homework on him checks out with Thibs we need to strike. This could be a Sprewell like buy low situation.

Cavs may want to avoid paying him, but they are not giving the kid away.

They can have Knox and our 2021 firsts.

nykballa2k4 · Post #238 » by **nykballa2k4** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:09 pm

Capn'O wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:This morning it's out on the wiretap that he's definitely on the block. If our homework on him checks out with Thibs we need to strike. This could be a Sprewell like buy low situation.

Cavs may want to avoid paying him, but they are not giving the kid away.

They can have Knox and our 2021 firsts.

Really?

If we max Sexton, that puts us out of reach to sign anyone really outright going forward ( which is fine, trades are always an option). but that puts a cap on us. Typically a team does not trade a franchise point guard for that sort of package. So what do we know that they dont?

ccvle · Post #239 » by **ccvle** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:09 pm

mpharris36 wrote:The major concern you would have is his defense. But in terms of what thibs likes in his guards (I wont call him a pg) but neither was Payton and Rose in his prime was never an elite distributor. Sexton can attack the basket. He is surprisingly very efficient...had over a 57% TS%. He is also excellent at getting to the FT line. And is nearly a 39% career shooter from 3.

He is actually a stones throw away from a 50/40/90 season which is elite category for a guard. If the cost is reasonable its worth a look.

Thibs would have to work on that defense though especially if he was defending the point of attack.

Individual defense is overated sometimes. You can have elite team defense with 1 or 2 bad defenders.

Post #240 » by **Capn'O** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:17 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
Cavs may want to avoid paying him, but they are not giving the kid away.

They can have Knox and our 2021 firsts.

Really?

If we max Sexton, that puts us out of reach to sign anyone really outright going forward ( which is fine, trades are always an option). but that puts a cap on us. Typically a team does not trade a franchise point guard for that sort of package. So what do we know that they dont?

My big caveat with all things Sexton is that Thibs needs to sign off. He needs to be confident that he can coach Sexton. If he doesn't then we don't strike. The other big difference is that the Cavs have a glut of excellent young guards and may grab another in the draft whereas we have a clear hole and a coach that values a scoring point. Then we have a year to try him out.