Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!!

Asif16 · Post #1101 » by **Asif16** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:27 pm

InfraRedshaw · Post #1102 » by **InfraRedshaw** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:29 pm

I, for one, would love to see the Knicks go after, and re-up Sexton

720 · Post #1103 » by **720** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:49 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
Los_29 wrote:A Green/KPJ backcourt would be comically bad on the defensive end. A part of me wants to see that.

They’re probably wishing for that so they can get Chet next year

Rockets getting Green and Chet back to back years would be make me mad. :lol:

Dalek · Post #1104 » by **Dalek** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:58 pm

I have a sneaky suspicion that Sharife Cooper is the darkhorse for Toronto. If his Pro Day went as well as people say it did, and the shooting concerns are mitigated, I see him as the fourth best prospect.

The ability to create, play pick and roll, the elite quickness and shifty handle put him in an elite class. As I have mentioned before, this kid came up an elite scorer and I think has an Allen Iverson edge to him.

We just watched Trae Young and Chris Paul lead their teams and I think Toronto would be willing to draft a guy Cooper.

He has interviewed with Houston, OKC, Cleveland and Toronto among others. Considering the high picks, and the fact that Toronto only has a high first, there might be some momentum for Cooper that the draft community is missing.

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mademan · Post #1105 » by **mademan** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:01 pm

Dalek wrote:I have a sneaky suspicion that Sharife Cooper is the darkhorse for Toronto. If his Pro Day went as well as people say it did, and the shooting concerns are mitigated, I see him as the fourth best prospect.

The ability to create, play pick and roll, the elite quickness and shifty handle put him in an elite class. As I have mentioned before, this kid came up an elite scorer and I think has an Allen Iverson edge to him.

We just watched Trae Young and Chris Paul lead their teams and I think Toronto would be willing to draft a guy Cooper.

He has interviewed with Houston, OKC, Cleveland and Toronto among others. Considering the high picks, and the fact that Toronto only has a high first, there might be some momentum for Cooper that the draft community is missing.

Read on Twitter

I think the way the draft is shaping up, it's hard to really know where Cooper goes. He's talented but undersized and has shooting concerns. Dude could go end of the lotto or could legit fall to the 2nd round. This is just Raps doing their due diligence, imo, in case he does fall.

PhilBlackson · Post #1106 » by **PhilBlackson** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:01 pm

Asif16 wrote:

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Won't lie I'm actually kinda shocked how many teams are interested in CS.

The one team that surprises and worries me on that list -- OKC. IF it were true...that would be potentially horrible IF for instance they were willing to give up the 6th pick because then there's no pressure on CLE to reach on Barnes or Kuminga.

But I would have to think it wouldn't be the case because why would OKC wanna spend a bunch of money so quickly on him & SGA especially when they need to showcase Kemba? Although I could see them putting Walker in that trade...

tecumseh18 · Post #1107 » by **tecumseh18** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:04 pm

InfraRedshaw wrote:I, for one, would love to see the Knicks go after, and re-up Sexton

They have so much cap space, enough to absorb Love's contract if Cavs want to attach it to Sexton.

Yeah, Love and Sexton would make the Knicks a terrifying Atlantic Division opponent for years to come. :lol:

DelAbbot · Post #1108 » by **DelAbbot** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:07 pm

InfraRedshaw wrote:I, for one, would love to see the Knicks go after, and re-up Sexton

Knicks have the highest cap space this summer to absorb Kevin Love and Sexton. It would be fun to watch... as a Raptors fan.

DelAbbot · Post #1109 » by **DelAbbot** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:12 pm

Since the lottery night I have been all-in on Suggs. Now I'm more hopeful Mobley will fall. Either way we are getting one of them, and it will be glorious.

Suggs is the marriage material gf, but Mobley is the super model for whom you want to risk it all.

Psubs · Post #1110 » by **Psubs** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:13 pm

mademan wrote:
Dalek wrote:I have a sneaky suspicion that Sharife Cooper is the darkhorse for Toronto. If his Pro Day went as well as people say it did, and the shooting concerns are mitigated, I see him as the fourth best prospect.

The ability to create, play pick and roll, the elite quickness and shifty handle put him in an elite class. As I have mentioned before, this kid came up an elite scorer and I think has an Allen Iverson edge to him.

We just watched Trae Young and Chris Paul lead their teams and I think Toronto would be willing to draft a guy Cooper.

He has interviewed with Houston, OKC, Cleveland and Toronto among others. Considering the high picks, and the fact that Toronto only has a high first, there might be some momentum for Cooper that the draft community is missing.

Read on Twitter

I think the way the draft is shaping up, it's hard to really know where Cooper goes. He's talented but undersized and has shooting concerns. Dude could go end of the lotto or could legit fall to the 2nd round. This is just Raps doing their due diligence, imo, in case he does fall.

I think a fit would be the Knicks at #19.

arbsn · Post #1111 » by **arbsn** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:13 pm

Cavs literally tank 3 years in a row giving Collin Sexton the keys to develop him and then they want to trade him to give the keys to a rookie to tank another 2 years to develop someone? So stupid

arbsn · Post #1112 » by **arbsn** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:15 pm

DelAbbot wrote:Since the lottery night I have been all-in on Suggs. Now I'm more hopeful Mobley will fall. Either way we are getting one of them, and it will be glorious.

Suggs is the marriage material gf, but Mobley is the super model for whom you want to risk it all.

Agreed Mobley fits perfect and has amazing upside. that being said teams would be stupid to pass on Suggs he has the lowest floor of any of these guys IMO he just ticks all the boxes

My gut feeling is it ends up being Jalen Green who falls. I just hope we dont try and reach for Barnes, Kuminga, etc

bboyskinnylegs · Post #1113 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:19 pm

arbsn wrote:Cavs literally tank 3 years in a row giving Collin Sexton the keys to develop him and then they want to trade him to give the keys to a rookie to tank another 2 years to develop someone? So stupid

to be fair they gave Love a max deal and have continued to be a perennial loser, so it's not hard to see why they'd be hesitant to max out another player in Sexton who puts up numbers but seems to have little impact on winning.

mtcan · Post #1114 » by **mtcan** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:19 pm

arbsn wrote:Cavs literally tank 3 years in a row giving Collin Sexton the keys to develop him and then they want to trade him to give the keys to a rookie to tank another 2 years to develop someone? So stupid

The Cavs under Koby Altman are a rudderless ship.

I hated the Sexton pick 3 years ago.

I'm not really a fan of the Isaac Okoro pick.

Wasting a second round pick on Andre Drmmond then just cutting him when they couldn't even trade him for a bag of peanuts is hilarious.

Throwing 120 million at Kevin Love to stay when the team was clearly rebuilding is lol worthy.

Cavs will find a way to **** things up...book it.

WuTang_OG · Post #1115 » by **WuTang_OG** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:22 pm

Dalek wrote:I have a sneaky suspicion that Sharife Cooper is the darkhorse for Toronto. If his Pro Day went as well as people say it did, and the shooting concerns are mitigated, I see him as the fourth best prospect.

The ability to create, play pick and roll, the elite quickness and shifty handle put him in an elite class. As I have mentioned before, this kid came up an elite scorer and I think has an Allen Iverson edge to him.

We just watched Trae Young and Chris Paul lead their teams and I think Toronto would be willing to draft a guy Cooper.

He has interviewed with Houston, OKC, Cleveland and Toronto among others. Considering the high picks, and the fact that Toronto only has a high first, there might be some momentum for Cooper that the draft community is missing.

Read on Twitter

he plays no defense. we have never gone after guys like this

MavCarter · Post #1116 » by **MavCarter** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:27 pm

Even if the cavs trade sexton they still have two top 5 picks to fill the backcourt in garland/okoro. Dont think it automatically means they’re leaning suggs

WuTang_OG · Post #1117 » by **WuTang_OG** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:30 pm

mtcan wrote:
arbsn wrote:Cavs literally tank 3 years in a row giving Collin Sexton the keys to develop him and then they want to trade him to give the keys to a rookie to tank another 2 years to develop someone? So stupid

The Cavs under Koby Altman are a rudderless ship.

I hated the Sexton pick 3 years ago.

I'm not really a fan of the Isaac Okoro pick.

Wasting a second round pick on Andre Drmmond then just cutting him when they couldn't even trade him for a bag of peanuts is hilarious.

Throwing 120 million at Kevin Love to stay when the team was clearly rebuilding is lol worthy.

Cavs will find a way to **** things up...book it.

Yup.

Let them deal Sexton for a crap deal only for them to draft Kuminga

WuTang_OG · Post #1118 » by **WuTang_OG** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:36 pm

DelAbbot wrote:Since the lottery night I have been all-in on Suggs. Now I'm more hopeful Mobley will fall. Either way we are getting one of them, and it will be glorious.

Suggs is the marriage material gf, but Mobley is the super model for whom you want to risk it all.

mademan · Post #1119 » by **mademan** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:37 pm

Psubs wrote:
mademan wrote:
Dalek wrote:I have a sneaky suspicion that Sharife Cooper is the darkhorse for Toronto. If his Pro Day went as well as people say it did, and the shooting concerns are mitigated, I see him as the fourth best prospect.

The ability to create, play pick and roll, the elite quickness and shifty handle put him in an elite class. As I have mentioned before, this kid came up an elite scorer and I think has an Allen Iverson edge to him.

We just watched Trae Young and Chris Paul lead their teams and I think Toronto would be willing to draft a guy Cooper.

He has interviewed with Houston, OKC, Cleveland and Toronto among others. Considering the high picks, and the fact that Toronto only has a high first, there might be some momentum for Cooper that the draft community is missing.

Read on Twitter

I think the way the draft is shaping up, it's hard to really know where Cooper goes. He's talented but undersized and has shooting concerns. Dude could go end of the lotto or could legit fall to the 2nd round. This is just Raps doing their due diligence, imo, in case he does fall.

I think a fit would be the Knicks at #19.

He's got elite quickness and is one of the best passing prospects ive seen in a while, but that 22% from the college 3 is gonna scare a lot of teams. You cant be as short as he is in this league and succeed without being a knock down shooter. It's just hard to ignore. And thats without the defensive issues that come with being barely 6 feet tall. 19th pick might be a little high for him. A guy like Springer might still be around there. Do you take him over Dosonmu who has a much clearer transition to the NBA as a 6'5 point guard who shot 40% from 3, scored/rebounded/defended/passed well?

Cooper might end up being like the 10th best guard in this draft. Im almost at a point where i'd be surprised if he was a 1st rounder.

C_Money · Post #1120 » by **C_Money** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:38 pm

I can’t believe how many legit scorers there are in this draft. A few of these guys are going to turn out to be a steal. Would love it if we got our hands on another 1st round pick somehow.