Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor

[thebuzzardman]

If Cavs want to quickly rebuild and totally wipe Love's horrible contract without taking any bad contracts (maybe Knox) then it's us and Thunder.

We can erase that contract from them and give us Sexton for Dallas' picks and Knox.

Sign Ball, Gibson, Bullock, Rose

Draft Cooper

Ball | Rose | Cooper
Sexton | IQ
RJ | Bullock
Randle | Obi
Mitch | Love | Gibson

I bet Miami leverages OKC's cap space and both OKC and Miami come out ahead in the deal, with Miami getting Sexton of course.

Maybe they trade Duncan Robinson to OKC.

Anything that tears the heart out of anything happening for the Knicks, I figure OKC and Miami will be in on it.

Just like OKC is going to pick everyone's favorite players right before the Knicks several times, not trade them SGA, but also make some draft day moves that completely f*ck up the Knicks day.




You know it's coming.

OMG no Sexton on the Knicks.... !!!

You'll fell this way when the Sexton trade is the last possible move the Knicks can make, after all the others fall through, and then that one does too. And Elf returns

[Fat]

[RHODEY]

I bet Miami leverages OKC's cap space and both OKC and Miami come out ahead in the deal, with Miami getting Sexton of course.

Maybe they trade Duncan Robinson to OKC.

Anything that tears the heart out of anything happening for the Knicks, I figure OKC and Miami will be in on it.

Just like OKC is going to pick everyone's favorite players right before the Knicks several times, not trade them SGA, but also make some draft day moves that completely f*ck up the Knicks day.




You know it's coming.

OMG no Sexton on the Knicks.... !!!

You'll fell this way when the Sexton trade is the last possible move the Knicks can make, after all the others fall through, and then that one does too. And Elf returns

Nah we aint the Lakers...

[Meat]

Little is a 20% 3pt shooter, that was a smart play

[DaGawd]

Little is a 20% 3pt shooter, that was a smart play

Also poor Cavs communication on defense to let Sexton know they had his back if he ran and fully committed to contesting the shot

[Fat]

Sexton would help with the scoring but he wouldn’t actually make us better unless he changes his style of play and finds a better balance of scoring and passing.

[DaGawd]

Sexton would help with the scoring but he wouldn’t actually make us better unless he changes his style of play and finds a better balance of scoring and passing.

We need any scorer and it would help. He does it pretty efficiently too. I think between he Barrett and Randle we’d have enough play making in the lineup to succeed

[RHODEY]

Sexton would help with the scoring but he wouldn’t actually make us better unless he changes his style of play and finds a better balance of scoring and passing.

The "Andre Drummond" of PG's?

[Marty McFly]

the one thing Donnie's bum ass left us was this axiom "A player could be good at one price, and not so good at another price." I'd would not mind Sexton. I'm not taking on Love for Sexton. I'm not trading any first rounders for him either. a team severely lacking talent is looking to move him, that says a lot to me.

[RHODEY]

Sexton would help with the scoring but he wouldn’t actually make us better unless he changes his style of play and finds a better balance of scoring and passing.

We need any scorer and it would help. He does it pretty efficiently too. I think between he Barrett and Randle we’d have enough play making in the lineup to succeed

Are you little concerned that RJ gets shut out of the offense?

[DaGawd]

Sexton would help with the scoring but he wouldn’t actually make us better unless he changes his style of play and finds a better balance of scoring and passing.

We need any scorer and it would help. He does it pretty efficiently too. I think between he Barrett and Randle we’d have enough play making in the lineup to succeed

Are you little concerned that RJ gets shut out of the offense?

I’m not. Rj is better right now as a spot up shooter who can occasionally attack off close outs until he fine tunes his offensive game any way

[Fat]

Sexton would help with the scoring but he wouldn’t actually make us better unless he changes his style of play and finds a better balance of scoring and passing.

We need any scorer and it would help. He does it pretty efficiently too. I think between he Barrett and Randle we’d have enough play making in the lineup to succeed

I wouldn’t trust none of them in critical moments in a game, that lineup looks like it needs a real floor general/leader type of guy to control the pace and make wise decisions.

Rose was that guy last year that helped in that department a bit

[Deeeez Knicks]

Actually, going over the math, so long as we don't sign anyone to more than a 1 year deal this offseason, we could go into 2022 free agency with Sexton/Randle/RJ plus whatever we don't trade to get him and 41 million in cap space, cause Sexton's cap hold would only be 19 million, and we can wait to re-sign him til we sign a max guy (if one's available)

So if you think we can get him for cheap, and we could convince a max FA to come here next offseason, there's absolutely no reason not to trade for him

It just comes down to how much the Cavs want for him.

If we can get Sexton without taking back Love I would be much more interested. If have to take back Love that is another $30mil on the cap so pretty much takes us out of the running unless we trade/get rid of Randle. Maybe we move Love by throwing in a bunch of picks or find a 3rd team. But it all seems like a lot by the time you give up assets to get Sexton then more to get rid of Love. Even if we sign Lavine, Beal, Derozan, etc they wouldn't really fit next to Sexton anyway.

Love seems like a deal breaker to me. I just don't know if i would go all in on a Sexton/Randle/RJ trio without being able to add some major help. Doesn't seem like enough for me.

[KnicksGadfly]

I’m not worried about his defense if we get him. Presumably, in that scenario, Thibs knows and thinks he can fix it.

The main thing is his propensity for pounding the ball. If we can rein that in, then he can be a good player. That, and the type of contract he wants.

[spree8]

Little is a 20% 3pt shooter, that was a smart play

Also poor Cavs communication on defense to let Sexton know they had his back if he ran and fully committed to contesting the shot

Isn’t that Ibaka and Powell ?

[thebuzzardman]

Actually, going over the math, so long as we don't sign anyone to more than a 1 year deal this offseason, we could go into 2022 free agency with Sexton/Randle/RJ plus whatever we don't trade to get him and 41 million in cap space, cause Sexton's cap hold would only be 19 million, and we can wait to re-sign him til we sign a max guy (if one's available)

So if you think we can get him for cheap, and we could convince a max FA to come here next offseason, there's absolutely no reason not to trade for him

It just comes down to how much the Cavs want for him.

If we can get Sexton without taking back Love I would be much more interested. If have to take back Love that is another $30mil on the cap so pretty much takes us out of the running unless we trade/get rid of Randle. Maybe we move Love by throwing in a bunch of picks or find a 3rd team. But it all seems like a lot by the time you give up assets to get Sexton then more to get rid of Love. Even if we sign Lavine, Beal, Derozan, etc they wouldn't really fit next to Sexton anyway.

Love seems like a deal breaker to me. I just don't know if i would go all in on a Sexton/Randle/RJ trio without being able to add some major help. Doesn't seem like enough for me.

Kudos to K-Dot on that find regarding Sexton and his cap hold etc.

I've been wondering in a few threads about the ramifications cap wise - and being capped out - if guys like Lowry\Conley\CP3 take a 2 year and then Randle either extends or waits until contract is up, gets 5, and then RJ, and anyone else fit in during that window.

Getting Sexton seems to open a window of getting that PG and still being able to maneuver for another max cat - which might explain Knicks and Miami interest past just what his talent is.

I was wondering if Love might be worth it as a stretch 5 (backup) IF it meant getting Sexton w/o giving up a pick, but then that kind of locks the team into that squad for 2 years and again, might mean bumping into the Randle\RJ bigger contracts in years 3 and 4.

In Brock Aller we trust.

[Jay10]

Cleveland Cavaliers

The Knicks are the most aggressive trade suitor for Cavaliers guard Collin Sexton, sources said. Sexton is eligible for his rookie extension this offseason, and with one year left on his deal, it allows Cleveland to continue to be patient in constructing the roster.

- Shams Charania

[TheGreenArrow]

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Sexton seems to be priority #1 Folks!!!!!!!!!!!

[RandlesCornrows]

Why y’all against Colin Sexton? I just know he’s a 25 PPG scorer and we need a scorer. No?

[god shammgod]

Why y’all against Colin Sexton? I just know he’s a 25 PPG scorer and we need a scorer. No?

because statistically the cavs were worse with him on the floor. but maybe he can become the kind of a guy who helps a team still. who knows.