Without knowing the rest of the roster, which PG would you pick first: Magic or Curry?

[DCasey91]

Curry.

I value scoring more than playmaking. Steph can be the primary scorer on a championship team.

2015? Injuries to the Cavs
2016? Injuries to them (was poor)
2017/2018 NO. 2019? Cool score
2021? Cool score what happened lost to the Grizzlies.

As a PG Curry is somewhat overrated (Passing/turnovers goes up the more he shot hunts).

It doesn’t read out that way.

Magic + Durant and the godly team is chips too let’s not forget that. My god Magic with Durant F that noise.

Magic did have better options in KAJ and Worthy.

What I’m saying is KD + Magic is the same result lol.

Also KD + Thompson isnt that far away the space there with Magic would be just as broken.

[dygaction]

2015? Injuries to the Cavs
2016? Injuries to them (was poor)
2017/2018 NO. 2019? Cool score
2021? Cool score what happened lost to the Grizzlies.

As a PG Curry is somewhat overrated (Passing/turnovers goes up the more he shot hunts).

It doesn’t read out that way.

Magic + Durant and the godly team is chips too let’s not forget that. My god Magic with Durant F that noise.

Magic did have better options in KAJ and Worthy.

What I’m saying is KD + Magic is the same result lol.

Also KD + Thompson isnt that far away the space there with Magic would be just as broken.

Curry + Worthy + KAJ would also be dominating, lol.

[bwgood77]

Magic in his time and Curry in his.

In between probably Curry since 3 pt shooting became more and more of a thing and important as time went on.

[DCasey91]

That’s true... but then again Magic with legit great 3ball shooters? Yeah no thanks that’s absurd.

[MostValQuitter]

Magic because Curry while great needs gravity to unlock his full potential.

Magic is like having Lebron who can shoot 3's he is so easy to build around because there really are no flaws to his game and he creates mismatches all over the court.

[dhsilv2]

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how is Magic a more versatile player than Steph?

Because he doesn't need to have a secondary ball handler and distributor next to him.

In order to unleash Curry's off-ball legendary skills, you need to take the ball off his hands and give it to someone else. Otherwise, you end up in a Mark Jackson type offense, minimizing his impact and relying on Curry's brilliance instead of a system that puts him in a position to succeed.

Magic doesn't need that. He would be pretty much ideal for nowaday's heliocentric offense style. If Doncic is capable of doing what he does, Magic wouldn't have a problem at all. He is more versatile than one of the most versatile superstars ever -Curry- because he is the whole system.

Of course, that doesn't mean Magic wouldn't benefit from having a secondary ball handler. He would. But he wouldn't need it to succeed. Curry does.

It all comes down to this:

- Curry needs a good distributor and floor general.
- Magic needs shooters and scorers.

In this current NBA landscape, I think there are more (and better on average) options for shooters than for ball handlers. Pretty much every role player is required to shoot, that doesn't happen with floor general skills.

I really respect Curry a lot, and I've stated many times that Curry is the most valuable player on the planet right now until further notice. But Magic is probably the only player who can claim to be even more portable than him. Maybe Dirk too, I don't know.

This is so wrong. Curry is an elite scorer in iso and he can run a heliocentric offensive with talent and everyone sucks if their team sucks around them enough. The thing is the topic is VERSATILE!

To be the optimal versatile guy you have to be able to switch seamlessly between being a play maker AND a spacer. Those are really the two roles in the nba today. Curry can do both at an all nba level. I'm not so sure Magic can be a spacer that seamlessly. But even if he can, can he ALSO become the guy who also can make the cuts and move off ball as needed? He was NEVER that...

[dhsilv2]

Poster mentioned before. All you need with Magic is shooters there’s a bucketload today lol.

Pull up any game highlight clip. Subtract one or two defenders in the lane and sub out the long two spot up jumpers for open threes.

Magic will just be another LBJ ran system and we all know how ATG that is.

How is Curry more versatile than Magic that I don’t get. Just give the ball to Magic simple job here.

LMAO...if you have to GIVE THE BALL TOO...that's a less versatile player.

[dhsilv2]

Magic did have better options in KAJ and Worthy.

What I’m saying is KD + Magic is the same result lol.

Also KD + Thompson isnt that far away the space there with Magic would be just as broken.

Curry + Worthy + KAJ would also be dominating, lol.

Cooper, green...so many good players

[clyde21]

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how is Magic a more versatile player than Steph?

You mean Earvin "Magic" Johnson, the 6'9" point guard widely regarded as the best to ever play the position?
Magic Johnson, the guy who has notoriously played all 5 positions on the court in the NBA?
The Magic Johnson who has LITERALLY been a champion on ever level of the sport with a disparate assortment of talent around him?

You think Wardell Stephen Curry II is more versatile than that guy?

sorry, this just a myth, Magic ain't playing all 5 positions, at least not at any functional level where it's make sense..is he gonna play your off-ball 2? and do what? is he gonna be your off-ball 3? and do what? just nonsense it doesn't make any practical sense from a bball standpoint.

yes, Steph is more versatile, especially in today's NBA, it's pretty indisputable, he stretches the court in ways Magic can dream off, can play on ball and off-ball with another primary on-ball player, can score on 3 levels, can score on ball, can score off-ball, can faciliate offense, can play off facilitators, can play next to paint only bigs, can play next to stretch bigs, can set screens and cut/slash in ways Magic can't.

look at most of the top10 non Steph players in today's league

LeBron
Kawhi
KD
Giannis
Jokic
Embiid
Harden
Dame
Luka

i can make an easy and strong argument that Steph is a better fit next all these guys than Magic.

again, this aint saying Steph's better than Magic, he's not...but Steph might be the most versatile and portable player we've ever seen no cap.

[clyde21]

That’s true... but then again Magic with legit great 3ball shooters? Yeah no thanks that’s absurd.

do you think Steph/Dray/Klay is worse than Magic/Dray/Klay?

[clyde21]

Magic because Curry while great needs gravity to unlock his full potential.

Magic is like having Lebron who can shoot 3's he is so easy to build around because there really are no flaws to his game and he creates mismatches all over the court.

oh yea, there was so much gravity this year for Steph playing with Dray, Wiseman and Oubre.

[DCasey91]

That’s true... but then again Magic with legit great 3ball shooters? Yeah no thanks that’s absurd.

do you think Steph/Dray/Klay is worse than Magic/Dray/Klay?

No Clyde list the whole team Curry played with same with Magic duh. Both played on ATG stacked teams no argument from me.

Would Curry get to the finals in 91? Don’t think so.
Would he be rookie dominate? Don’t think so.

If you take their 11 year span holistically Magic has the edge 100%.

I’m still taking Magic over Curry and wouldn’t think twice about it.

Jayson Tatum + Magic? That’s all that’s needed in the end.

Magic is more versatile to me. You know he’s $$$ in the post and you can’t send him to the line. I’ll take Lebron esque type offensive system over Curry’s any day of the week without much thought.

We are forgetting he’s the greatest and best 6”9” playmaker and passer ever...

Surely everyone knows in 15 and 16 was a split through injuries cmon now. 17/18 doesn’t matter KD. 20 he shot hunted and 21 he shot hunted again and didn’t make the playoffs.

Curry gets dangerously overrated on this board when someone speaks drivel about him. Not a lot of people points out his direct flaws, defense, durability, turnover prone.

[triple_threat]

Steph is way more versatile and fits way more lineups/schemes than Magic.

gotta go Steph because it's just a much better chance he'll fit better next to whoever you throw out next to him.

Curry. He has the play making capabilities as magic...

Curry IS the more versatile guy here.

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how is Magic a more versatile player than Steph?

Try throwing steph at the 3, 4 or 5 and see what happens both offensively and defensively or even on switches. Magic is more versatile than anyone in the modern nba not named lebron (edge to lebron just due to defense). I honestly don't get the argument for steph and please don't say something silly like magic is ball dominant. Sure curry has great off the ball skills but at the same time he cannot get others involved like cp3 magic or even draymond green.

[DCasey91]

Yeah Clyde is speaking nonsense. Magic’s usage rate compared to other ATG huge ball dominate players is just bias now.

Magic outside of the SG spot can play anywhere. It’s position-less nowadays.

Today’s Meta:

1. Lane is open season
2. More space then ever before
3. Magic is a walking mismatch of the highest order. Can’t double and can’t put a smaller or bigger slower guy on him.
4. Soft rules lol (what defense?)
5. Hyperheliocentricism. Magic would get 30% usage nowadays easy as pie. In fact analytically it’s bad not too for him.
6. Shooters for days on end. His assists wouldn’t be long two they would be threes. Lol
7. Skill threshold. Imagine a fully idealized Ben that we all keep harping on about on offense... Magic was that basically from his rookie year onwards lmfao.

Once again it’s closer to a Lebron type offense then people care to acknowledge.

[NbaAllDay]

Curry is the clear choice in todays game. You almost take Curry over anyone not named MJ or Jordan the way the game is played today. People undervalue his impact on the way the game is played. If I wanted anyone playing with LBJ in todays game for example it would be Curry over MJ, Kobe etc etc etc.

He is also more portable in todays game.

If we are talking about the 80s then Magic wins out, again it's not a fair comparison when both were the best PG's in two completely different eras and gamestyles.

[MrPerfect1]

Curry is the clear choice in todays game. You almost take Curry over anyone not named MJ or Jordan the way the game is played today. People undervalue his impact on the way the game is played. If I wanted anyone playing with LBJ in todays game for example it would be Curry over MJ, Kobe etc etc etc.

He is also more portable in todays game.

If we are talking about the 80s then Magic wins out, again it's not a fair comparison when both were the best PG's in two completely different eras and gamestyles.

You are underrating how infectious truly great passing becomes. A team with Lebron and Magic would be absurd.

The amount of ball movement, layups/dunks, etc would be ridiculous. Imagine how many wide open 3's they would generate. Many NBA shooters shoot Steph or better percents if they get a wide open look.

[MostValQuitter]

Magic because Curry while great needs gravity to unlock his full potential.

Magic is like having Lebron who can shoot 3's he is so easy to build around because there really are no flaws to his game and he creates mismatches all over the court.

oh yea, there was so much gravity this year for Steph playing with Dray, Wiseman and Oubre.

Look we are talking two HOF'ers and Steph is still getting his numbers regardless but Steph is actually best when the ball is in his hands for less then 5s and he making a quick decision whether to shoot or not.

You can run your offense through Magic on a championship team by run I mean use him similarly to how Lebron is with the understanding that Magic developed a more lethal and consistent J and 3PT shot. He creates for others in a way that Curry just doesn't and his size and defense versatility also creates more of a headache for opposing coaches.

Like I said two HOF'ers but if I don't know who the teammates are I am taking Magic

[dhsilv2]

Only on RealGM

how is Magic a more versatile player than Steph?

Try throwing steph at the 3, 4 or 5 and see what happens both offensively and defensively or even on switches. Magic is more versatile than anyone in the modern nba not named lebron (edge to lebron just due to defense). I honestly don't get the argument for steph and please don't say something silly like magic is ball dominant. Sure curry has great off the ball skills but at the same time he cannot get others involved like cp3 magic or even draymond green.

3-4-5? dude....those aren't real.

[dhsilv2]

Yeah Clyde is speaking nonsense. Magic’s usage rate compared to other ATG huge ball dominate players is just bias now.

Magic outside of the SG spot can play anywhere. It’s position-less nowadays.

Today’s Meta:

1. Lane is open season
2. More space then ever before
3. Magic is a walking mismatch of the highest order. Can’t double and can’t put a smaller or bigger slower guy on him.
4. Soft rules lol (what defense?)
5. Hyperheliocentricism. Magic would get 30% usage nowadays easy as pie. In fact analytically it’s bad not too for him.
6. Shooters for days on end. His assists wouldn’t be long two they would be threes. Lol
7. Skill threshold. Imagine a fully idealized Ben that we all keep harping on about on offense... Magic was that basically from his rookie year onwards lmfao.

Once again it’s closer to a Lebron type offense then people care to acknowledge.

There is no SG in 2021 dude.

If you set magic as a non playmaker with the ball, how good would he be? Again you NEVER have him dribble attack as a first or second option!

[dhsilv2]

Magic because Curry while great needs gravity to unlock his full potential.

Magic is like having Lebron who can shoot 3's he is so easy to build around because there really are no flaws to his game and he creates mismatches all over the court.

oh yea, there was so much gravity this year for Steph playing with Dray, Wiseman and Oubre.

Curry, the guy who warps defenses and creates gravity...he needs it despite he's the most anti gravity guy ever outside of the 3 point line?

Why do you bother Clye? LOL This guy has curry flipped!