Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons

mtcan · Post #21 » by **mtcan** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:11 pm

baller16 wrote:Siakam and OG are off the table. Its gonna have to be around FVV & Trent which I'm fine with if we're rebuilding. No way in hell a Lowry S&T gets it done, that would be robbery

Freddie and a resigned Kyle and a few future picks will do it.

Asif16 · Post #22 » by **Asif16** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:11 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:What can we offer? Multiple future picks?

I don't see us swapping Siakam for Ben. And we certainly wouldn't trade #4 for him.

I doubt this is true.

Kyle Lowry S&T + Trent?

alienchild · Post #23 » by **alienchild** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:11 pm

F Philly. No interest in Simmons. No room for his entitled ego in the Raptors locker room. Morey can go slide down the razor blade of life.

Raps in 4 · Post #24 » by **Raps in 4** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:11 pm

Swag wrote:Pascal and picks for Simmions

Resign Lowry and and draft Green at 4

We good.

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Why would we add picks to a Pascal for Simmons swap?

Jerry Lucas · Post #25 » by **Jerry Lucas** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:13 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:
Jerry Lucas wrote:If there's any team that can fix Ben Simmons it's the Raptors but I still don't think it's likely in any case.
It doesn't appear that Simmons wants to be fixed. He is what he is at this point.

I agree with this, but I'm just saying if there's any team that can perform this long shot developmental miracle it's us. For the record I don't want Ben Simmons on this team, I'm just saying the Raps developmental program might be the only one that even has a slim chance of fixing him.

Zeno · Post #26 » by **Zeno** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:13 pm

Swag wrote:Pascal and picks for Simmions

Resign Lowry and and draft Green at 4

We good.

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I don't think I'd do Pascal for Simmons straight up. So including picks seems like a very bad idea.

RapsFanInOhio · Post #27 » by **RapsFanInOhio** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:14 pm

The “interest” is likely “if Kyle chooses you, let’s talk about Ben Simmons” which isn’t as crazy as it seems.

BoyzNTheHood · Post #28 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:14 pm

Jerry Lucas wrote:If there's any team that can fix Ben Simmons it's the Raptors but I still don't think it's likely in any case.

The problem is he has to be willing to fix himself, and based on what people are saying he's completely fine staying as good/bad as he is.

It's worth a shot to see what they want though. I wouldn't be opposed to adding Ben Simmons as is for cheap.

DeBrick · Post #29 » by **DeBrick** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:15 pm

Asif16 · Post #30 » by **Asif16** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:16 pm

Philly is desperate. They're in win-now mode. If they scan around the league and can't find the "All-Star Calibre player" they're looking for.....Kyle Lowry might be their best option. That's when Masai gonna pounce.

Kyle Lowry S&T, Chris Boucher Paul Watson JR + 2nd for Ben Simmons.

Raps in 4 · Post #31 » by **Raps in 4** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:17 pm

Asif16 wrote:Philly is desperate. They're in win-now mode. If they scan around the league and can't find the "All-Star Calibre player" they're looking for.....Kyle Lowry might be their best option. That's when Masai gonna pounce.

Kyle Lowry S&T, Chris Boucher Paul Watson JR + 2nd for Ben Simmons.

Morey runs that team now. He isn't getting fleeced.

Asif16 · Post #32 » by **Asif16** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:18 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
Asif16 wrote:Philly is desperate. They're in win-now mode. If they scan around the league and can't find the "All-Star Calibre player" they're looking for.....Kyle Lowry might be their best option. That's when Masai gonna pounce.

Kyle Lowry S&T, Chris Boucher Paul Watson JR + 2nd for Ben Simmons.

Morey runs that team now. He isn't getting fleeced.

Morey also loves Kyle Lowry

Basketball_Jones · Post #33 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:19 pm

No thanks

Nexus949 · Post #34 » by **Nexus949** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:19 pm

Offer Lowry + filler. If they don't take it (which they probably won't)...move on. Simmons has 4 more years at an average of around 37 million. His lack of shooting relative to that contract, despite all the defense and potential, is not something I give up true assets for.

PT416 · Post #35 » by **PT416** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:20 pm

Asif16 wrote:Philly is desperate. They're in win-now mode. If they scan around the league and can't find the "All-Star Calibre player" they're looking for.....Kyle Lowry might be their best option. That's when Masai gonna pounce.

Kyle Lowry S&T, Chris Boucher Paul Watson JR + 2nd for Ben Simmons.

I'd even give them a future 1st. If we can end up getting back a future core piece like Simmons out of Lowry's departure, it makes the 4th pick additional value instead of being "Lowry's replacement", which makes us so much better as a team.

EDIT: Actually now that I think about it, it's an interesting scenario but we might be able to do more with the cap space. Boucher is pretty good and if we signed someone like Noel, that's a cheaper defensive juggernaut who can't shoot as a Center which is a lot better for our roster balance.

Mack11 · Post #36 » by **Mack11** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:20 pm

They're going to ask for OG and the talks will stop there

alienchild · Post #37 » by **alienchild** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:21 pm

Asif16 wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
Asif16 wrote:Philly is desperate. They're in win-now mode. If they scan around the league and can't find the "All-Star Calibre player" they're looking for.....Kyle Lowry might be their best option. That's when Masai gonna pounce.

Kyle Lowry S&T, Chris Boucher Paul Watson JR + 2nd for Ben Simmons.

Morey runs that team now. He isn't getting fleeced.

Morey also loves Kyle Lowry

Lowry HATES Morey.

Los_29 · Post #38 » by **Los_29** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:24 pm

Don't think the Sixers are going to get the star that they want.

Simmons value took a massive hit and any team that trades for him knows they are going to have a liability in the playoffs.

baller16 · Post #39 » by **baller16** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:24 pm

Philly isn't going anywhere if they make a lateral trade with Simmons. The time to go all-in is now, they need to throw everything in the Simmons package for Dame. Maybe Simmons+Tobias+Thybulle+Maxey+Picks for Dame & CJ

bboyskinnylegs · Post #40 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:26 pm

if it's for Kyle + not much else in a s&t, sure. Not interested in trading more than that for him