Draft Thread Part 8: 4th pick !!!!

DatHomieYouHaTe · Post #1361 » by **DatHomieYouHaTe** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:13 pm

i don't understand how people think Mobley is dropping to us. Not happening

vulture · Post #1362 » by **vulture** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:15 pm

Anyone expecting Mobley to be a center is going to be surprised. He's basically a wing player forced to be a center because he's a 7 footer. He has less strength than siakam and siakam had trouble playing center this season.

WigginsNation · Post #1363 » by **WigginsNation** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:19 pm

Suggs>>>>>>>Mobley.
It would be sad if we lose out on a generational talent like Suggs. Mobley will not be anything special. He lacks drive and intensity. Not a huge fan of his

wegotthabeet · Post #1364 » by **wegotthabeet** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:21 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
Jcity08 wrote:Mobley is a bonafide star, if he drops to us, you take him and run.

the best scouting vid on him. He's an insane prospect. Needs to force his way to 4 !!

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Mobley is the most intriguing prospect in the draft. I have a tough time believing three teams will pass on the chance to pick him, but his ceiling is the highest of the top 4 prospects. I would take him over Holmgren who a lot of people have going 1st overall next year. His passing, ball handling, floor stretching, perimeter defense and rim protection is just an insane combo. The kid has it all and his ceiling is higher in Toronto than with any of the other top 4 teams based on fit and how they develop talent. I won't get ahead of myself, but it would be really lucky for him to fall to 4, for both him and the Raptors.

Post #1365 » by **niQ** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:26 pm

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YESSS! If we get Suggs and Neemias I don't even care who the last pick is.

EH15 · Post #1366 » by **EH15** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:29 pm

I'd like to remind everyone that if Mobley was so generational, he would by vying for the first overall pick right now, not meandering between 3rd and 4th.

There has been historically a bias for bigs with the top pick in the NBA. It has always been this way. The best prospect in each of the next two draft at this very moment is Holmgren and Wembanyama. Mobley can't even get top 2 buzz.

Give me Suggs and call it a day. Utter nonsense trying to justify Mobley falling all the way to 4th and thinking we hit the jackpot. 1 team passing on him is good fortune, two is serendipity, three means there's likely a reason for it.

Ell Curry · Post #1367 » by **Ell Curry** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:30 pm

DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:i don't understand how people think Mobley is dropping to us. Not happening

If Green is the clear #2, it's not insane to think the Cavs at 3 will take Suggs over Mobley. Garland-SG-Okoro-Mobley-Allen is really low on shooting. If they're indeed giving Allen a giant contract, not crazy to think they'll pass on Mobley, though they could also trade the pick to someone desperate to get Mobley.

bboyskinnylegs · Post #1368 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:31 pm

WigginsNation wrote:Suggs>>>>>>>Mobley.
It would be sad if we lose out on a generational talent like Suggs. Mobley will not be anything special. He lacks drive and intensity. Not a huge fan of his

what specifically do you see in Suggs that makes him a generational talent? I see a player with a high floor, versatile in terms of being able to play PG/SG, and low probability of turning into a complete bust, but certainly not someone that looks destined to become a top 10 player that you build a team around.

Stromile12 · Post #1369 » by **Stromile12** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:34 pm

team Suggs vs team Mobley

PhilBlackson · Post #1370 » by **PhilBlackson** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:42 pm

Stromile12 wrote:team Suggs vs team Mobley

Mobley...and it ain't particularly close.

Mikistan · Post #1371 » by **Mikistan** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:43 pm

Stromile12 wrote:team Suggs vs team Mobley

i like suggs

InfraRedshaw · Post #1372 » by **InfraRedshaw** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:44 pm

Stromile12 wrote:team Suggs vs team Mobley

#TeamWhyCantWeAllJustGetAlong

bboyskinnylegs · Post #1373 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:44 pm

most of us will be on the same team once the 3rd pick is announced

Jcity08 · Post #1374 » by **Jcity08** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:47 pm

I dont do well with teams. It gets a little too toxic around these parts.

I will be happy with whichever top prosoect we get.

C_Money · Post #1375 » by **C_Money** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:48 pm

*coughs* I kinda don’t like either of them

Badonkadonk · Post #1376 » by **Badonkadonk** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:49 pm

vulture wrote:Anyone expecting Mobley to be a center is going to be surprised. He's basically a wing player forced to be a center because he's a 7 footer. He has less strength than siakam and siakam had trouble playing center this season.

What? He projects as a 5 on defense in almost every way. Watching even one scouting video should make this obvious. What makes him a unique defensive prospect is ability to cover the perimeter as well, but his man AND weakside rim protection is classic center stuff.

Even offense most of his value comes out of that position as well (especially his jump hook, which is impossible to guard), but he's got a nifty midrange game and has shown good form from behind the arc. Of course he brings the obvious center stuff too (i.e. lob threat, camping the dunker's spot on some sets).

He moves like a 3, but he'll play the role of a 5 on both ends.

Post #1377 » by **DG88** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:53 pm

Stromile12 wrote:team Suggs vs team Mobley

I just want the draft to get here so we can just cheer for our pick thanks. Tired of these versus stuff. We're lucky to get whoever drops to us at 4, be it Green, Mobley or Suggs.

Post #1378 » by **niQ** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:54 pm

DG88 wrote:
Stromile12 wrote:team Suggs vs team Mobley

I just want the draft to get here so we can just cheer for our pick thanks. Tired of these versus stuff. We're lucky to get whoever drops to us at 4, be it Green, Mobley or Suggs.

It's always been Team Whoever falls to us.

Clutch0z24 · Post #1379 » by **Clutch0z24** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:55 pm

beggers can't be choosers and with us getting handed this 4th pick i will be fine with any of Suggs/Mobley/Green , don't matter to me cause i see all of them becoming All stars in the future....Its a Win either way

vulture · Post #1380 » by **vulture** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:58 pm

Badonkadonk wrote:
vulture wrote:Anyone expecting Mobley to be a center is going to be surprised. He's basically a wing player forced to be a center because he's a 7 footer. He has less strength than siakam and siakam had trouble playing center this season.

What? He projects as a 5 on defense in almost every way. Watching even one scouting video should make this obvious. What makes him a unique defensive prospect is ability to cover the perimeter as well, but his man AND weakside rim protection is classic center stuff.

Even offense most of his value comes out of that position as well (especially his jump hook, which is impossible to guard), but he's got a nifty midrange game and has shown good form from behind the arc. Of course he brings the obvious center stuff too (i.e. lob threat, camping the dunker's spot on some sets).

He moves like a 3, but he'll play the role of a 5 on both ends.

this is literally the boucher conundrum. He doesn't have the strength to hold his position defensively or offensively. He gets moved by smaller players all the time and he can't set screens because he's always looking to slip due to lack of physicality.
His offense is outside in rather than inside out so I don't think he'll be able to play center until he adds strength.

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