Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons

bboyskinnylegs · Post #181 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:03 pm

PrinceAli wrote:

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I love how when you view the tweet, Ben's picture is censored with a sensitive content warning :lol:

alienchild · Post #182 » by **alienchild** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:03 pm

LastNameEver wrote:One of the whole point of having such a great development team that specializes in retribution is to unlock players like Simmons

No, that isn't the point. The point is to take undrafted players, and late first round picks and turn them into all-stars or near all-stars.

ciueli · Post #183 » by **ciueli** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:05 pm

Pooh_Jeter wrote:
ciueli wrote:
Pooh_Jeter wrote:
Danny Green was going to be off loaded to a 3rd team. Beyond that only bit players like the ones they ended up dealing as filler for George Hill needed to be included.

But the salary needs to be close to the $30M Kyle Lowry was making as both teams were over the cap. Danny Green would only have been about half that, that's why I'm asking, I didn't see any other movable contracts that Philly had.

The Sixers needed to trade approx 23M in salary.

Green, Maxey and Scott would have worked. They also had Ferguson and Tony Bradley. The salary matching part wasn't the issue.

I think the issues were
a) Philly was trading probably 5 players to make the math work and that was a lot of depth they were shedding (losing 2 shooters in Green and Scott hurts the most). From their side, they were already giving up a lot.
b) Toronto wasn't too excited by Maxey and weren't interested in another undersized shooting guard given Fred VanVleet as a key player for the next 3 years.
c) Masai wasn't going to just give Kyle to a team for little to nothing because the optics of trading a franchise player for a bunch of expiring contracts and one questionable prospect. At some point it's a reputation thing and Masai's would have taken a hit if he gives Kyle to a team for a player he doesn't even want.

From the Raptors side I absolutely don't do that deal just to get Maxey, so I'm not surprised a deal didn't get done since I don't see Philadelphia being willing to include a future first round pick. Just seems like there wasn't a deal to be made.

Son Goku 25 · Post #184 » by **Son Goku 25** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:06 pm

I once said God I wonder how it would be if Kawhi was on this team and it happened. I don't know if Ben is that guy we need but maybe some ppl might speak it into existence.

alienchild · Post #185 » by **alienchild** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:07 pm

canada_dry wrote:
Asif16 wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
Morey runs that team now. He isn't getting fleeced.

Morey also loves Kyle Lowry
Thats fine, he also refused to get fleeced for lowry at the deadline. At least what he thought was a fleecing, in reality it was just him being cowardly and costing his team the title. Regardless tho He'll have no problem walking away from the table again this summer.

If this was Elton brand still? Maybe.

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You do realize that Morey is a blowhard and an idiot?

dublo7 · Post #186 » by **dublo7** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:12 pm

Reeko wrote:
Swag wrote:Pascal and picks for Simmions

Resign Lowry and and draft Green at 4

We good.

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no way in hell am I giving Embiid spicy to play with for a non-shooter. outside of downloading a shooting program into simmons i only wnat him infor defensive possessions.

Basketball_Jones · Post #187 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:13 pm

Oh god, I'd rather watch Siakam shoot 20 bricks from 3 in a playoff series then watch this guy brick free throws and pass out of dunks because he's afraid Trae Young might foul him.

Mark_83 · Post #188 » by **Mark_83** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:15 pm

Pascal + future 1st + GTJ for Simmons.

Simmons
OG
Mobley
Lowry
FVV

LastNameEver · Post #189 » by **LastNameEver** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:17 pm

alienchild wrote:
LastNameEver wrote:One of the whole point of having such a great development team that specializes in retribution is to unlock players like Simmons

No, that isn't the point. The point is to take undrafted players, and late first round picks and turn them into all-stars or near all-stars.

Well it looks like we’re getting Simmons, im almost certain he will be a different player under Nurse

Bruin · Post #190 » by **Bruin** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:17 pm

Mark_83 wrote:Pascal + future 1st + GTJ for Simmons.

Simmons
OG
Mobley
Lowry
FVV

Siakam alone is worth more than Simmons

No way we give them a pick and GTJ too

Def Leppard · Post #191 » by **Def Leppard** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:18 pm

Don't think we would give up what would be needed and don't think we should

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C_Money · Post #192 » by **C_Money** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:18 pm

Mark_83 wrote:Pascal + future 1st + GTJ for Simmons.

Simmons
OG
Mobley
Lowry
FVV

Jesus christ you’re overrating the hell out of Simmons here.

Raps1103 · Post #193 » by **Raps1103** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:20 pm

Mark_83 wrote:Pascal + future 1st + GTJ for Simmons.

Simmons
OG
Mobley
Lowry
FVV

What ??? Siakam is the better player !!! WHY ARE WE ADDING MORE!! What are you smoking ?

canada_dry · Post #194 » by **canada_dry** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:20 pm

PrinceAli wrote:

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How reliable are these guys? Idk about all that advanced talks verbiage...lol

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Parataxis · Post #195 » by **Parataxis** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:21 pm

Mark_83 wrote:Pascal + future 1st + GTJ for Simmons.

Simmons
OG
Mobley
Lowry
FVV

The only way that this trade happens is if weeks later it turns out that Masai had signed a contract with Philly all along. :noway:

TheBoi10 · Post #196 » by **TheBoi10** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:22 pm

PrinceAli wrote:

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This is what an account some Miami insiders interact with was saying a while back

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Basketball_Jones · Post #197 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:23 pm

Siakam is a weird fit for the Sixers though. Harris is too slow at small forward, but Joel does allow Siakam to leak out and be that transition scorer he was years ago at his peak.

Bruin · Post #198 » by **Bruin** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:23 pm

canada_dry wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:

Read on Twitter
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How reliable are these guys? Idk about all that advanced talks verbiage...lol

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Not sure how reliable they are but I’ve followed them on Twitter for a couple years now since they were pretty reliable at the time with regards to some Canadian draft workout news and stuff like that

The source is saying their connections is from back when Murray worked out for them so I guess we’ll just have to see. Take it with a grain of salt I’d say tho

alienchild · Post #199 » by **alienchild** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:23 pm

LastNameEver wrote:
alienchild wrote:
LastNameEver wrote:One of the whole point of having such a great development team that specializes in retribution is to unlock players like Simmons

No, that isn't the point. The point is to take undrafted players, and late first round picks and turn them into all-stars or near all-stars.

Well it looks like we’re getting Simmons, im almost certain he will be a different player under Nurse

Wrong on both counts.

Bruin · Post #200 » by **Bruin** » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:25 pm

TheBoi10 wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Read on Twitter
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This is what an account some Miami insiders interact with was saying a while back

Read on Twitter

Really hope we are keeping the pick off the table