Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor

[thebuzzardman]

I was thinking about Lonzo. Knicks can still sign him and pair them up together. Might work out well

I could see the Knicks actually doing that. You really need the right compliment of players next to Sexton. Lonzo would be a nice fit

It could open up possibility for some 3 guard lineups as well with IQ

There would be a LOT of mix and match lineup possibilities among:

Sexton/Rose/Lonzo/IQ/RJ/Vildoza...and maybe a drafted wing who can shoot and create a little also?

[thebuzzardman]

I was thinking about Lonzo. Knicks can still sign him and pair them up together. Might work out well

This forum would be in meltdown mode before they even step foot on the floor together, it's actually the exact type of player you want next to Sexton, the ball mover glue guy that can run offense but will stand in the corner when he doesn't have the ball.

There's not enough 3P shooting with Sexton-Lonzo-RJ on the perimeter.

I think we underestimate just how impactful Bullock's 3P shooting was last year. He's the one player whose efficiency from 3 actually elevated our scoring efficiency as a team. He was by far our most efficient scorer last year outside of our center rotation.

With Sexton-Lonzo-RJ, you don't have anyone navigating through screens for catch-and-shoot 3s, setting screens for Randle for the relocate-and-catch-and-shoot 3 (which also often forced the switch on Randle), or overall being able to shoot from anywhere on the court with a lightning-quick release.

I'd bring him back, but with Lonzo/Sexton/Rose/IQ/RJ/Vildoza would be tough to find him rotation minutes that might make him effective.

[Juco24]

Are we really willing to give up on Obi AND commit nearly $30M a year on Sexton? How far can this team go with Sexton and Randle driving it?

Obi wont get playing time with Randle here...so he has to go. As far as paying Sexton 30 Million...we can address that in 22-23, right now his costs only 6 Mill.

So basically we add a 22yr old efficient 24+ PPG scorer to a team bereft of shot creators while maintaining cap flexibility in the short term....

Team would be Randle, RJ, Sexton, Mitch, and whoever we sign with our huge amount of cap space, plus whoever we draft with our remaining pick(s) ( I'm hoping Duarte)...

I dont know how far that takes us but we'd be significantly better with he ability to tweek the roster down the road.

I feel you. He’d definitely be an upgrade to Payton. I just want to see what the future holds for Obi with a bigger role. Hometown kid that takes notes and improves each year. I really think he can be a major part of this team with a good/great PG.

Yeah... I agree. Obi was really beginning to find his way and I for one, don't support sending a hometown kid with talent to Cleveland for Sexton. Especially when there are other options. Bones may be a better option. Ball may be a better option. Sharif may be a better option. All those come without having to dispose of ANY assets that could possibly be used in a bigger deal.

[louisorr]

seems like Cleveland knows full well that he's not part of their plans. I really don't care if they can get a better deal from another team.

if it means our most recent lottery pick plus our first round pick this year plus Knox plus another pick plus taking on Love as some of you guys are suggesting. we're talking about Colin freaking sexton here. who I like....but come on, thats way too much. let Cleveland get their booty form another team. I liked how our teams options looked way better before todays news.
Knox and one frp or (kay voice) see ya

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[DaGawd]

Cool we already have our point guard maybe.. let’s get the 2 guard now.. all in on Sexing

[aggo]

obi knox +21

is nothing in the grand scheme of things.

obi didn't show me enough coordination last year to be anything other than a rim running PNR 4 who can occasionally get hot from three. His 3s last year were all over the place. For a guy whose an "old" rookie I would really worry about his ceiling. He didn't do much ball handling or playmaking either so I dont really think his ceiling is that high.

knox is a straight up bust

21st frp is nothing.


we dont have to sign Sexton anyway to a RFA deal. this is a good low risk high reward move imo. Sexton might actually benefit from a hard ass coach like Thibs who would make him pass the ball. Sexton ball handling and being able to put up 20ppg efficiently as a PG is exactly what this team desperately needed last year at the end of the season and in the playoffs. Randle-iso-wing failed miserably, and having a ball handling PG fixes that.

I dont really see how this move is bad unless Obi could play Center. Which I think we all agree isn't feasible for 30mpg at this point. We're not giving up much/anything and Sexton makes nothing and doesnt have to be extended unless he proves it.

[aggo]

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People smarter than me, what does this mean?

some bull stats that in context and in a team aspect doesnt mean jack ****.

Lonzo is a 3D SG/SF on a winning team. He cant run the pnr/fastbreak/create threes reliably enough as a primary ball handler.

[K_ick_God]

Rather keep Obi at almost all costs. Don't @ me but I think I rather keep Obi over RJ perhaps, or at least similar. Quick and Mitch next and all basically tied for keepable. Rest can go.

[thebuzzardman]

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People smarter than me, what does this mean?

Knicks are getting both

[thebuzzardman]

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People smarter then me, what does this mean?

I either bought a used car, health food or a cyanide laced capsule to hitch a ride on a comet, from this guy. I can't recall which.

Ah, yes.

It was all three.

[WargamesX]

he has to be a knick

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Dammit now I like the kid

[thebuzzardman]

You **** had the audacity to compare Sex to Rivers.. lol smh

Yeah, the nerve. Everyone knows Vildoza is Argentinian Rivers.

[DowNY]

Imagine doing Lonzo vs. Sexton, just for them both to be here

[nykinoz]

I'm in the camp of protecting and hoarding all our assets until a franchise changing player becomes available. Throw cash at Lonzo and keep everything else.

[thebuzzardman]

Imagine doing Lonzo vs. Sexton, just for them both to be here

This is what is happening.

Knicks will probably deal both first rounders to make it so. Maybe all 3.

I'm not a fan of trading picks, but to trade them all in 1 year, to get 2 rotational players, who are 22 and 23 years old?

Yeah, I'd send Obi, Knox and 2 FRP\high 2nd for that to happen.

[thebuzzardman]

Sexton/Rose
Lonzo/IQ
RJ/Vildoza
Randle/?
Mitch/Olynyk
Bullocks for shooting depth and continuity. Pinson for towel waiving. That Belgian dude for development. Pelle for 6 hard fouls. Some G-League guy to sell hope to Westchester.

Is it a championship team? No.
I'd say there are several players not that hard to trade if it doesn't work out, though timing will matter if it's pre max or post max Randle/RJ/Sexton.

[Adelheid]

Sexton/Rose
Lonzo/IQ
RJ/Vildoza
Randle/?
Mitch/Olynyk
Bullocks for shooting depth and continuity. Pinson for towel waiving. That Belgian dude for development. Pelle for 6 hard fouls. Some G-League guy to sell hope to Westchester.

Is it a championship team? No.
I'd say there are several players not that hard to trade if it doesn't work out, though timing will matter if it's pre max or post max Randle/RJ/Sexton.

RJ at the 3 something I'm desperate to see. I feel it just has to happen for him to flourish. Slow at 2 for me.

[Marty McFly]

obi knox +21

is nothing in the grand scheme of things.

obi didn't show me enough coordination last year to be anything other than a rim running PNR 4 who can occasionally get hot from three. His 3s last year were all over the place. For a guy whose an "old" rookie I would really worry about his ceiling. He didn't do much ball handling or playmaking either so I dont really think his ceiling is that high.

knox is a straight up bust

21st frp is nothing.


we dont have to sign Sexton anyway to a RFA deal. this is a good low risk high reward move imo. Sexton might actually benefit from a hard ass coach like Thibs who would make him pass the ball. Sexton ball handling and being able to put up 20ppg efficiently as a PG is exactly what this team desperately needed last year at the end of the season and in the playoffs. Randle-iso-wing failed miserably, and having a ball handling PG fixes that.

I dont really see how this move is bad unless Obi could play Center. Which I think we all agree isn't feasible for 30mpg at this point. We're not giving up much/anything and Sexton makes nothing and doesnt have to be extended unless he proves it.

I wouldn't say its nothing. we got IQ with the 25th pick.

[Marty McFly]

these are the last 10 players chosen with the #19 pick.

2019 Luka Samanic, KK Olimpija (Slovenia) – San Antonio Spurs
2018 Kevin Huerter, University of Maryland – Atlanta Hawks
2017 John Collins, Wake Forest – Atlanta Hawks
2016 Malik Beasley, Florida State – Denver Nuggets
2015 Jerian Grant, Notre Dame – Washington Wizards
2014 Gary Harris, Michigan St – Denver Nuggets
2013 Sergey Karasey, Russia – Cleveland Cavaliers
2012 Andrew Nicholson, St. Bonaventure – Orlando Magic
2011 Tobias Harris, Tennessee – Charlotte Bobcats
2010 Avery Bradley, Texas – Boston Celtics

better keep that **** pick.