Ben Simmons Trade Thread

dennistokyo · Post #1842 » by **dennistokyo** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:32 am

BNelley24 wrote:
dkb9696 wrote:
Stanford wrote:Raptors fans are the dumbest people on earth,

Pot calling the kettle black. You must still be salty from watching Embiid cry like a little baby after the Raptors bounced the one actually good 76ers team from the playoffs. I am going to laugh my ass off when the 76ers are stuck with Simmons or trade him for 50 cents on the dollar. You realize the 76ers have zero leverage? Yet Raptor fans are dumb.

Wasnt as good as Vince Carter bricking a game winner on his graduation day.

Waaay better. Led to a Championship. Not even close.

Black Mage · Post #1843 » by **Black Mage** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:36 am

Madd Squabbles wrote:
Embiid-MVP wrote:
Madd Squabbles wrote:
I would rather SGA, Levine, or Fox but I would be okay with the right package surrounding McCollum or Tyrese Haliburton.

I would accept a McCollum and Covington for Simmons and Curry.

You look elsewhere if we gotta give up Curry too. That would be straight stupid. Phenomenal contract and player for that money. You don't just give that away. He's perfect here too. Starting or preferably a 6th-7th guy

Covington has an even better contract and he's a quality starter in the NBA.

All your credibility is gone with this statement.

Marty_Budda · Post #1844 » by **Marty_Budda** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:37 am

Stanford wrote:Raptors fans are the dumbest people on earth, I swear

Says the guy who’s suggesting we trade pascal, Lowry and a 4th pick for a guy who just shot 30% from the line :lol:

Nba champion Siakam for a guy that couldn’t even get out of the second round with a team of embiid, jimmy, Harris and redick :lol:

Siakam’s Boston series is nowhere near as embarrassing as what Simmons just did.

You sixers fans are too much I swear.

Black Mage · Post #1845 » by **Black Mage** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:39 am

Stanford wrote:Lowry, Siakam and 4 for Ben

Not realistic. If we want 4 and one of those guys we'll have to ship something back as well. Don't get me wrong, I am all about getting one of 4 from Raps or 3 from Cavs.

Negrodamus · Post #1846 » by **Negrodamus** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:43 am

Marty_Budda wrote:
Stanford wrote:Raptors fans are the dumbest people on earth, I swear

Says the guy who’s suggesting we trade pascal, Lowry and a 4th pick for a guy who just shot 30% from the line

Nba champion Siakam for a guy that couldn’t even get out of the second round with a team of embiid, jimmy, Harris and redick

Siakam’s Boston series is nowhere near as embarrassing as what Simmons just did.

You sixers fans are too much I swear.

Do Raptors fans talk poorly about Sixers fans on their board? I would never know since I’m not lame and go to other team’s boards, nor do I care about their opinions.

Tomjas · Post #1847 » by **Tomjas** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:46 am

Why would we want Siakam when we still have Tobias?

Tobi is the elephant in the room that is being ignored due to the Simmons noise

Marty_Budda · Post #1848 » by **Marty_Budda** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:46 am

Negrodamus wrote:
Marty_Budda wrote:
Stanford wrote:Raptors fans are the dumbest people on earth, I swear

Says the guy who’s suggesting we trade pascal, Lowry and a 4th pick for a guy who just shot 30% from the line

Nba champion Siakam for a guy that couldn’t even get out of the second round with a team of embiid, jimmy, Harris and redick

Siakam’s Boston series is nowhere near as embarrassing as what Simmons just did.

You sixers fans are too much I swear.

Do Raptors fans talk poorly about Sixers fans on their board? I would never know since I’m not lame and go to other team’s boards, nor do I care about their opinions.

You just responded to my post so you must care at least a little bit :wink:

And only when it comes to your very lofty valuation of Simmons. A guy most of you don’t even want on the team. Other than that we don’t care either.

ProcessDoctor · Post #1849 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:57 am

Stanford wrote:It is interesting to see the divide on the board:

Beal/Dame/Lavine (lesser extent) vs. SGA/Fox/Sexton+

I wish we could run a simulation of both

I think it depends how long you're willing to wait for a player to hit their prime with Embiid already in his. Traditionally, players tend to peak between ~27-33, give or take a year.

Would I be upset if we got 23-year-old SGA or Fox for Simmons? Absolutely not.

Would I feel more confident about us winning a championship in the next 3 years with Beal (27-years old) or Dame (31-years-old)? Absolutely yes.

I agree LaVine is pretty much in his own category. Not quite as good as Beal (definitely not Dame), but lower upside than SGA/Fox.

CJ is a last resort. Sexton scares the hell outta me and would probably piss off Embiid off regularly. I'd still do it if we could pair him with a vet guard who can play defense (i.e. Lowry).

UnFadeable21 · Post #1850 » by **UnFadeable21** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:15 am

ProcessDoctor wrote:Anyways.

I, for one, am excited to see what type of haul Morey can get. Thank goodness it's him running the show.

1. Dame
2. Beal
3. LaVine
4. SGA
5. Fox
6. CJ++

Why do so many fans have faith in Morey when he had Harden, Paul, & Capella then blew it for Harden and Westbrook and blew that for nothing in Houston?

Houston didn’t even get Jarrett Allen or Levert, young pieces.

Post #1851 » by **Stanford** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:15 am

Marty_Budda wrote:Other than that we don’t care either.

You've proven that tonight

Black Mage · Post #1852 » by **Black Mage** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:17 am

dkb9696 wrote:
tdotrep2 wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Siakam is just another Harris-level player. Definitely need #4 to go along with him.

Siakam is a two way player and one year removed from 2nd team All NBA. He is a much better player then Harris.

Wasn't Siakam rumored to be ready for the bench or G-league with his play last year?

Black Mage · Post #1853 » by **Black Mage** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:18 am

PhilaOwnsBoston wrote:If Sexton plus a draft pick or two were the best the Sixers could do, would you do it?

If that draft pick is #3, yep.

Black Mage · Post #1854 » by **Black Mage** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:20 am

Ackshun wrote:Would you guys do this?

Golden State - Pascal
Toronto- Ben, 14th pick
Philly - Wiggins, 7th pick, 46th pick, Future Toronto 1st

Hoping for realistic replies, so that means no 4th pick. No way Toronto gives that up since the market just isn't there for Ben.

I was hoping for a realistic trade proposal, guess we both didn't get what we wanted.

Black Mage · Post #1855 » by **Black Mage** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:21 am

dkb9696 wrote:
Stanford wrote:"Number 4 pick" sounds sexy in theory but this is a three player draft and I know for a fact that MLSE isn't willing to wait for a B- prospect to develop. They're eager to get off of Siakam's deal and make up for not trading Lowry at the deadline. You have to consider all of factors involved here. It's a recipe for a Lowry-Siakam-4-for-Ben deal, and considering the offers we're getting from the T-Wolves board, we may just have to take it.

You are delusion to think you would get that package for Ben scared to shoot a lay up Simmons.

It was a dunk and you shouldn't care so much, in a year or so Toronto won't even have a team anymore so you should want them to spite tank it.

ProcessDoctor · Post #1856 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:21 am

UnFadeable21 wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:Anyways.

I, for one, am excited to see what type of haul Morey can get. Thank goodness it's him running the show.

1. Dame
2. Beal
3. LaVine
4. SGA
5. Fox
6. CJ++

Why do so many fans have faith in Morey when he had Harden, Paul, & Capella then blew it for Harden and Westbrook and blew that for nothing in Houston?

Houston didn’t even get Jarrett Allen or Levert, young pieces.

Well, I don't think you can blame him for the CP3-Westbrook trade. Both Harden and ownership pushed for that.

Houston wasn't going to trade Harden to Philly, if that's what you're referring to in your second sentence. Even if we gave up the farm for him, I don't think Fertitta would give Morey the satisfaction.

Black Mage · Post #1857 » by **Black Mage** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:22 am

Ackshun wrote:
PT416 wrote:
Ackshun wrote:Would you guys do this?

Golden State - Pascal
Toronto- Ben, 14th pick
Philly - Wiggins, 7th pick, 46th pick, Future Toronto 1st

Yeah. Don't forget Siakam and Fred hog a lot when other guys are in rhythm. Simmons won't do that. We have scorers. GTJ and OG have another gear and OG especially has the potential to be more efficient than Siakam. We should do that trade.

Maybe we give them the 4th pick and take the GS #7.

That way Philly gets Wiggins, 4th, 46th and a future first.

There ya go.

ProcessDoctor · Post #1858 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:31 am

Lowry would be a fun backcourt partner with any of Beal, LaVine, SGA, Sexton, or McCollum IMO. Lowry alone isn't the solution but makes for a nice fit with Embiid and any of the aforementioned players.

Black Mage · Post #1859 » by **Black Mage** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:33 am

UnFadeable21 wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:Anyways.

I, for one, am excited to see what type of haul Morey can get. Thank goodness it's him running the show.

1. Dame
2. Beal
3. LaVine
4. SGA
5. Fox
6. CJ++

Why do so many fans have faith in Morey when he had Harden, Paul, & Capella then blew it for Harden and Westbrook and blew that for nothing in Houston?

Houston didn’t even get Jarrett Allen or Levert, young pieces.

Pssst, Morey wasn't the gm when Houston shipped Allen and Levert out. If you are going to troll, you need to be smart, you aren't so just stop trying.

yuuby · Post #1860 » by **yuuby** » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:34 am

Lowry is a PG who will be 36 years old by the time the playoffs occurs. He is declining year over year by the advanced stats.

I dont want any player 30 or older in the return for Simmons unless they are a superstar like Lillard.

We need someone who is younger than Embiid back or at least of similar age.