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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread 

Post#1861 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:43 am

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Is that all? Do you want VanVleet, Gary Trent and Chris Boucher as well? Maybe all of our 1st round picks for the next 5 years?


I don't know...Do you guys want Embiid, Thybulle, Maxey, and Ben for Kyle Lowry? Two can play at that game. You guys were DELUSIONAL around the deadline in regards to Lowry. I mean...Absolutely OUT THERE.

Most outrageous trade package we were asking for was Thyblle, Maxey and two 1st rounders (which would've been in the high 20s) for Lowry. We never included Harris, Embiid or Simmons. You guys are asking for Lowry, Siakam and #4, that is way too much for Ben.


Who is exactly is asking for that? A casual fan on the internet? I sure as hell didn't ask for that. I personally would like to see Lowry and #4 for Ben and another player or...our first round pick. I feel like that's fair value all things considered. But again, I'm just a dumbass fan myself who isn't a GM.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread 

Post#1862 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:49 am

If we could get Lowry and the #4 pick, then why not? That's Jalen Suggs or Jalen Green. That's the type of talent we need to continue moving forward in my opinion. I get that Embiids window is small, but a Suggs or Jalen Green could potentially lead us further down the road. Add in Lowry who is a win now player and I feel like it's a fair deal. We'd have to give up our pick, and/or Shake, but it's fair. I mean, what else would Raps want assuming the foundation of the deal was Lowry/#4 for Simmons?
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread 

Post#1863 » by Reeko » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:50 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
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I don't know...Do you guys want Embiid, Thybulle, Maxey, and Ben for Kyle Lowry? Two can play at that game. You guys were DELUSIONAL around the deadline in regards to Lowry. I mean...Absolutely OUT THERE.

Most outrageous trade package we were asking for was Thyblle, Maxey and two 1st rounders (which would've been in the high 20s) for Lowry. We never included Harris, Embiid or Simmons. You guys are asking for Lowry, Siakam and #4, that is way too much for Ben.


Who is exactly is asking for that? A casual fan on the internet? I sure as hell didn't ask for that. I personally would like to see Lowry and #4 for Ben and another player or...our first round pick. I feel like that's fair value all things considered. But again, I'm just a dumbass fan myself who isn't a GM.

I disagree, the #4 pick shouldn't even be on the table. Ben hasn't significantly improved offensively since his rookie year, and he hasn't shown a discernible willingness to do so. Personally I hope that the Raptors don't make a trade for Simmons, as I think he's highly overrated. This is just my opinion, and I'm sure yours is at the other end of the spectrum as it pertains to Ben.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread 

Post#1864 » by freshie2 » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:52 am

24 year old vs 35 year old necessitates the pick.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread 

Post#1865 » by Negrodamus » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:55 am

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Says the guy who’s suggesting we trade pascal, Lowry and a 4th pick for a guy who just shot 30% from the line :lol: :lol:

Nba champion Siakam for a guy that couldn’t even get out of the second round with a team of embiid, jimmy, Harris and redick :lol: :lol:

Siakam’s Boston series is nowhere near as embarrassing as what Simmons just did.

You sixers fans are too much I swear.


Do Raptors fans talk poorly about Sixers fans on their board? I would never know since I’m not lame and go to other team’s boards, nor do I care about their opinions.


You just responded to my post so you must care at least a little bit :wink:

And only when it comes to your very lofty valuation of Simmons. A guy most of you don’t even want on the team. Other than that we don’t care either.


How much are you enjoying the attention you received from me? You all don’t care so much that you’re trolling our board again.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread 

Post#1866 » by yuuby » Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:06 am

Less than 16 more days until the Ben Simmons nightmare is over.

He will be off the team by draft night.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread 

Post#1867 » by SixthStreet » Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:22 am

Any trade centered around the 4 pick will have to be done on the clock. If the first 3 picks are Cunningham, Suggs, and Green in any order the 4th pick is severely devalued to me.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread 

Post#1868 » by garbagnani » Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:59 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
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Wasnt as good as Vince Carter bricking a game winner on his graduation day.


Wow ... really going back in time to find a dig there. I am not mad at it though. Whatever the 76er fans need to do to get over wasting Embiid/Butler/Simmons/Harris/Reddick Championship level roster.


Look, it's been almost 40 years since the 76ers have won a title. Don't worry though. TB Raptor fans will get there. 40 years from now, you will all still be talking about the Kawhi Leonard shot, along with how you beat a Warrior team that was short two of it's best three players.


Such a lame narrative.

Actually klay played 5/6 games, and played really well.

Also worth noting that the raps beat…
Orlando - the best record post all star break
76ers - their best incarnation in years
Bucks- 1st place with 60 wins
Warriors - minus Durant, sure. The warriors had just swept the WCF and one WCSF 4-2 without Durant.

The raptors path to the championship was way harder than most.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread 

Post#1869 » by FluLikeSymptoms » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:04 am

I’m sure Masai would be interested as a 3rd-party facilitator in a larger trade but he doesn’t do 1-way players so I sincerely doubt he actually wants Simmons on the Raptors.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread 

Post#1870 » by Mik317 » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:05 am

pls stahp.

no one here cares about the Raptors bro.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread 

Post#1871 » by cool93 » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:10 am

I never ever could have imagined that any fan base would be more annoying that Celtics fans. Welp
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread 

Post#1872 » by Appostis » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:11 am

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Kobblehead wrote:Siakam is just another Harris-level player. Definitely need #4 to go along with him.

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Siakam, #4 this year and your unprotected #1 next year, based on Siakam's series against Boston.


:lol:

You'd think mutiple post seasons in a row would smarten you up :lol:
Pascal is the better player by a solid margin, on a cheaper deal.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread 

Post#1873 » by Sportfan73 » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:16 am

Why don’t all you raptors fans get the **** out of our board then? No one asked you to come here and troll
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread 

Post#1874 » by eyeatoma » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:17 am

Mods, do what you do best. The cockroaches are back and it's time to bring in the RAID.

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread 

Post#1875 » by FlyingArrow » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:18 am

yuuby wrote:Lowry is a PG who will be 36 years old by the time the playoffs occurs. He is declining year over year by the advanced stats.

I dont want any player 30 or older in the return for Simmons unless they are a superstar like Lillard.

We need someone who is younger than Embiid back or at least of similar age.

Lowry for Simmons would be ridiculous, but Lowry could be a player here, depending on how things shake out.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread 

Post#1876 » by ConstableChaos » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:20 am

I'd be looking to get FVV rather than Lowry
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread 

Post#1877 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:20 am

Morey played this all wrong. Should have went hard for Lowry, coulda been in the finals.

Nonethless, Instead of trading Simmons at his lowest value, I actually think he'd play better as a point forward at the 4.

1,2,3 positions all need shooting. You cant win with Simmons bricking every shot or not even taking them at PG, just too easy to defend, especially in the playoffs.

The guy you should be trading is Tobias Harris.

Make a run at Lowry for S and T

Lowry
Seth Curry
Thybull
Simmons
Embiid

Way better balance. Takes pressure off Simmons. He can now share the playmaking with Lowry and doesnt have to worry about shooting production for the team at the 4.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread 

Post#1878 » by eyeatoma » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:22 am

Seriously am I on the Raptors board now?

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread 

Post#1879 » by yuuby » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:27 am

WuTang_OG wrote:Morey played this all wrong. Should have went hard for Lowry, coulda been in the finals.

Nonethless, Instead of trading Simmons at his lowest value, I actually think he'd play better as a point forward at the 4.

1,2,3 positions all need shooting. You cant win with Simmons bricking every shot or not even taking them at PG, just too easy to defend, especially in the playoffs.

The guy you should be trading is Tobias Harris.

Make a run at Lowry for S and T

Lowry
Seth Curry
Thybull
Simmons
Embiid

Way better balance. Takes pressure off Simmons. He can now share the playmaking with Lowry and doesnt have to worry about shooting production for the team at the 4.



You are wrong. You have to shoot at all positions other than center.

The center who sets screens, rim rolls, and stands at the dunker spot is the only guy on the floor who doesnt have to shoot.

All the other 4 positions must shoot. Who are these PFs on offense who dont shoot on successful teams?

Giannis is effectively the center on offense as Brook just spaces the floor. In the modern NBA only 1 of your starters can be a non shooter.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread 

Post#1880 » by the_process » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:31 am

Tomjas wrote:Why would we want Siakam when we still have Tobias?

Tobi is the elephant in the room that is being ignored due to the Simmons noise


I have to believe Morey knows Tobias is part of the problem as well. And will handle it in due time.

It is really shaping up to be a completely different team next year. Maybe even a 21st century team finally.

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