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Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor

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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#901 » by Worst_to_First » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:05 pm

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Sort of a cruel irony that we could have just gotten Sexton outright instead of Knox if we hadn’t won those meaningless games at the end of the 2018 season.

The cost of that meaningless win would be Obi and a first round pick lol in terms of eventually doing that Sexton and Knox swap.

I’d still do this trade though.
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#902 » by spree2kawhi » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:13 pm

Juco24 wrote:Sexton is a 6'1" shooting guard who doesn't shoot great. He doesn't move the ball (just ask KLove). He's not a good defender. He's a good scorer that I honestly can't see fitting in well with Randle and Barrett. Some of the same people on here wanting him complained about Randle having sticky fingers. Sexton has that reputation

We need a lead guard that has the skill to create offense. We never needed or wanted Randle to do so.
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#903 » by DaGawd » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:33 pm

Sexton can be like young d Rose for us and Thibs. Always on the attack and things open up for the team just of that. Not as explosive as young Derrick but much better shooter
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Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#904 » by spree8 » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:35 pm

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Capn'O wrote:If the Knicks come away with Sexton and Ball you don't worry so much about position. The Knicks have four playmakers with different and complimentary skills with Mitch playing cleanup. Only one player that doesn't space. Then you get a center you can play five out with. Then you hide Sexton on the worst or smallest on the opposing lineup on D.


Olynyk. He can function some as a backup 4 too. Well, depending on matchup.



Olynyk would be perfect here, just like Lonzo. He’s a helluva passer too, and can put the ball on the floor n get his own shot. Bringing in him, Zo, Sexton, Luca, and Duarte would be amazing.
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#905 » by Oscirus » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:42 pm

Sure give up a developing prospect and a first to pay a prospect that even the worst team in the league doesnt want. Tell me how that turns out
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#906 » by DaGawd » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:48 pm

Oscirus wrote:Sure give up a developing prospect and a first to pay a prospect that even the worst team in the league doesnt want. Tell me how that turns out

There one of the worst teams for a reason. Not an indictment on Sexton. Why are other good teams interested if here sucks so much like some of y’all think?
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Post#907 » by Oscirus » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:49 pm

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Oscirus wrote:Sure give up a developing prospect and a first to pay a prospect that even the worst team in the league doesnt want. Tell me how that turns out

There one of the worst teams for a reason. Not an indictment on Sexton. Why are other good teams interested if here sucks so much like some of y’all think?

Cuz he has some skills and they think they can get him for cheap cuz hes in a contract year.
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Post#908 » by spree2kawhi » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:05 pm

Do y'all realize Darius Garland had a better sophomore season than RJ Barrett?
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Post#909 » by Signature NYK » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:05 pm

Buzz got the right idea

Trade Obi/Knox/19 for sexton
Draft Trey Murphy @ 21 and Vrenz at 32
Sign lonzo 19 mil offer sheet
Sign Olynk

Sexton/Rose/Luca
Lonzo/IQ/Frank lol
RJ/Murphy III
Randle/Vrenz
Mitch/Kelly O

That's a damn good team imo. prolly top 5 in the east if everyone plays to the level they were at last year. IF they improve it could be a team that bludgeons teams to death.
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#910 » by DaGawd » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:05 pm

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Oscirus wrote:Sure give up a developing prospect and a first to pay a prospect that even the worst team in the league doesnt want. Tell me how that turns out

There one of the worst teams for a reason. Not an indictment on Sexton. Why are other good teams interested if here sucks so much like some of y’all think?

Cuz he has some skills and they think they can get him for cheap cuz hes in a contract year.

Exactly. Skills that can translate to winning in the right setting. The Cavs aren’t exactly the right setting lol
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#911 » by HEZI » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:16 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:Do y'all realize Darius Garland had a better sophomore season than RJ Barrett?


Yes and it’s not surprising. I liked Garland a lot and had him higher on my board than RJ but they told me it was a 3 player draft and Garland is not that good and stuff
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Post#912 » by Bob Ross » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:18 pm

I like Sexton and Lowry better than Sexton and Ball
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Post#913 » by Oscirus » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:18 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:Do y'all realize Darius Garland had a better sophomore season than RJ Barrett?

show your work, dont just be lazy and spout off stuff
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Post#914 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:23 pm

Knicks are def in hot pursuit per shams but i still don't buy that other guys deal as the one that will get it done.

They really paused the interview without saying much and said they would continue next week like it's a series on tv. This is the netflix era. Nobody's got the patience for that anymore
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#915 » by god shammgod » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:30 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Knicks are def in hot pursuit per shams but i still don't buy that other guys deal as the one that will get it done.

They really paused the interview without saying much and said they would continue next week like it's a series on tv. This is the netflix era. Nobody's got the patience for that anymore


he didn't say that was going to be the deal to be fair. he said ny had offered that.
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Post#916 » by Zenzibar » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:33 pm

spree8 wrote:
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Capn'O wrote:If the Knicks come away with Sexton and Ball you don't worry so much about position. The Knicks have four playmakers with different and complimentary skills with Mitch playing cleanup. Only one player that doesn't space. Then you get a center you can play five out with. Then you hide Sexton on the worst or smallest on the opposing lineup on D.


Olynyk. He can function some as a backup 4 too. Well, depending on matchup.



Olynyk would be perfect here, just like Lonzo. He’s a helluva passer too, and can put the ball on the floor n get his own shot. Bringing in him, Zo, Sexton, Luca, and Duarte would be amazing.



I would be SHOCKED if Lonzo gets money here. His rep is that he is afraid of that big man contact while driving to the hole. It is an absolute prerequisite for Thibs that his PG attacks the basket (see Alfrid). Conversely Sexton shoots about 6 free throws per.

Lonzo attempts 1 .2 free throws a game. Not acceptable, let's leave Ball alone. :crazy:
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Post#917 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:34 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Knicks are def in hot pursuit per shams but i still don't buy that other guys deal as the one that will get it done.

They really paused the interview without saying much and said they would continue next week like it's a series on tv. This is the netflix era. Nobody's got the patience for that anymore


he didn't say that was going to be the deal to be fair. he said ny had offered that.


That makes a little more sense. Don't get me wrong, would love to do that deal. Just sounds like a pretty crappy offer and people are getting too excited about it. It will probably cost more.
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#918 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:35 pm

Signature NYK wrote:Buzz got the right idea

Trade Obi/Knox/19 for sexton
Draft Trey Murphy @ 21 and Vrenz at 32
Sign lonzo 19 mil offer sheet
Sign Olynk

Sexton/Rose/Luca
Lonzo/IQ/Frank lol
RJ/Murphy III
Randle/Vrenz
Mitch/Kelly O

That's a damn good team imo. prolly top 5 in the east if everyone plays to the level they were at last year. IF they improve it could be a team that bludgeons teams to death.


Thanks. What I've seen Schroeder traded for (twice), I hoping it can be a pick and Knox, or a pick and Obi. Yes, Knox is a throw in, but no sense just tossing assets away, even not good ones.

In fact, I'd really like the trade to be Pick 19 or 21, Knox and several 2nds.

Different players/reasons, but Schroeder and Kennard were traded for about that.
Schroeder closer to Sexton in ability, without the big year 3 but that might be inflated by shot availability on absolute sh*t team, and Kennard a "decent" (lolz) young player traded away for "assets" since his team didn't want the upcoming cap hit.

I mean, it's not a stretch to think the Cavs might do something as dumb as Detroit.
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Post#919 » by Zenzibar » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:36 pm

Signature NYK wrote:Buzz got the right idea

Trade Obi/Knox/19 for sexton
Draft Trey Murphy @ 21 and Vrenz at 32
Sign lonzo 19 mil offer sheet
Sign Olynk

Sexton/Rose/Luca
Lonzo/IQ/Frank lol
RJ/Murphy III
Randle/Vrenz
Mitch/Kelly O

That's a damn good team imo. prolly top 5 in the east if everyone plays to the level they were at last year. IF they improve it could be a team that bludgeons teams to death.


19th pick? :crazy:

Lonzo is restricted and will be a SnT sapping up assets for a Lavine trade. Stop it.
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#920 » by Celo » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:36 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Knicks are def in hot pursuit per shams but i still don't buy that other guys deal as the one that will get it done.

They really paused the interview without saying much and said they would continue next week like it's a series on tv. This is the netflix era. Nobody's got the patience for that anymore


I do think in an ideal world the Cavs are hoping to get some all-star caliber talent back - they'd obviously have to add some assets in that case. At least that's what I get from hearing their name being linked to the Simmons sweepstakes.

But I also think that getting Obi may be in their interest, since they already thought about drafting him.

I don't think there's really interest in Knox. I'd be surprised if he has any value that exceeds a 2nd rounder at all.

If possible, I'd keep both 1st rounders this year and offer the Mavs '23 pick. So that the ultimate package would be something along the lines of Obi, #32 and Mavs '23. Pretty light in my eyes, but it's hard to gauge Sextons value around the league. If they asked for this years first, I do at least hope it's 21 and not 19. Not that 2 spots mean the world, but who knows who'll slip in the draft.

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