The LeBron Thread 2021 Off-Season Edition

[LikeABosh]

Wiretap says Lakers looking to play LeBron at the 4 and AD at the 5 more. Great

I'm not crazy about Lonzo Ball, but I think he's proven himself to be a reliable 3 pt shooter the last 2 years

Imo he isn't as reliable shooting as his numbers suggest. Towards the ending of the last 2 seasons he has had months where he has been scorching hot, all credit due there but before then had also gone several weeks/months shooting awfully.

From month to month, his deviation is ~5.4%. So he'll definitely fall below league average for a whole month. But it's still better than Schroeder who I imagine he'd be replacing in this scenario. Schroeder deviates by almost 8%! That's just awful for a 33% shooter. It's hard to win games where your guard is either refusing to shoot 3's or is shooting 25% for an entire month. Yuck

So yeah, I'd take the 38% shooter taking 8 attempts a game over whatever Schroeder provides. Injuries would be a serious concern tho. Ball has yet to have a healthy season

[trickshot]

Wiretap says Lakers looking to play LeBron at the 4 and AD at the 5 more. Great

I'm not crazy about Lonzo Ball, but I think he's proven himself to be a reliable 3 pt shooter the last 2 years

Imo he isn't as reliable shooting as his numbers suggest. Towards the ending of the last 2 seasons he has had months where he has been scorching hot, all credit due there but before then had also gone several weeks/months shooting awfully.

From month to month, his deviation is ~5.4%. So he'll definitely fall below league average for a whole month. But it's still better than Schroeder who I imagine he'd be replacing in this scenario. Schroeder deviates by almost 8%! That's just awful for a 33% shooter. It's hard to win games where your guard is either refusing to shoot 3's or is shooting 25% for an entire month. Yuck

So yeah, I'd take the 38% shooter taking 8 attempts a game over whatever Schroeder provides. Injuries would be a serious concern tho. Ball has yet to have a healthy season

No one is making a case for Schroder, he's the problem. Assumed we were discussing who the solution might be.

edit so i looked up his splits and although his shooting swings widly from month to month it's true he has made huge strides. Just not sure it's enough to buy AD and Lebron the spacing they are reportedly after.

[LikeABosh]

Imo he isn't as reliable shooting as his numbers suggest. Towards the ending of the last 2 seasons he has had months where he has been scorching hot, all credit due there but before then had also gone several weeks/months shooting awfully.

From month to month, his deviation is ~5.4%. So he'll definitely fall below league average for a whole month. But it's still better than Schroeder who I imagine he'd be replacing in this scenario. Schroeder deviates by almost 8%! That's just awful for a 33% shooter. It's hard to win games where your guard is either refusing to shoot 3's or is shooting 25% for an entire month. Yuck

So yeah, I'd take the 38% shooter taking 8 attempts a game over whatever Schroeder provides. Injuries would be a serious concern tho. Ball has yet to have a healthy season

No one is making a case for Schroder, he's the problem. Assumed we were discussing who the solution might be.

edit so i looked up his splits and although his shooting swings widly from month to month it's true he has made huge strides. Just not sure it's enough to buy AD and Lebron the spacing they are reportedly after.

Of course, I know nobody wants Schroeder. I was just making the comparison to show Ball would at least be an improvement even if he isn't an elite shooter

[nzahir]

Surprised nobody has mentioned Kawhi’s injury

He may miss up to 9 months

Sucks for him and the clippers, but if we’re healthy, I don’t see why we shouldn’t at least make the finals

We need more to beat a healthy Nets team though

And who knows what other stars get moved around

We need more firepower regardless

Hope Rob doesn’t blow this

[trickshot]

What's the obsession with Melo on the Lakers. Lebron doesn't need a backup that opens defensive holes at his very position. Melo also likes to feel the ball as he put it. Laker fans will turn when he starts passing up open shots so he can do 9 pumpfake jabsteps before throwing up something heavily contested. His efficiency will be similar in any setup. If he moulded his game around his more complementary skills he'd be the perfect 3rd or 4th scorer by now. The team needs to get smarter not double down on mistakes of last season.

[Mos_Heat]

Patty Mills is a much better shooter and he's way cheaper. Lonzo is not helping them in the half court and they are already great in transition, so it's another name hunting type of deal. Even Sexton with all of his flaws would be more useful

[Mos_Heat]

What's the obsession with Melo on the Lakers. Lebron doesn't need a backup that opens defensive holes at his very position. Melo also likes to feel the ball as he put it. Laker fans will turn when he starts passing up open shots so he can do 9 pumpfake jabsteps before throwing up something heavily contested. His efficiency will be similar in any setup. If he moulded his game around his more complementary skills he'd be the perfect 3rd or 4th scorer by now. The team needs to get smarter not double down on mistakes of last season.

He's obviously not helping in the playoffs, but his scoring can help in the regular season, especially if Kuzma is gone. He doesn't have the same clout he had 4 years ago, when coaches had to play him, so his signing for the vet min won't be a disaster

[trickshot]

What's the obsession with Melo on the Lakers. Lebron doesn't need a backup that opens defensive holes at his very position. Melo also likes to feel the ball as he put it. Laker fans will turn when he starts passing up open shots so he can do 9 pumpfake jabsteps before throwing up something heavily contested. His efficiency will be similar in any setup. If he moulded his game around his more complementary skills he'd be the perfect 3rd or 4th scorer by now. The team needs to get smarter not double down on mistakes of last season.

He's obviously not helping in the playoffs, but his scoring can help in the regular season, especially if Kuzma is gone. He doesn't have the same clout he had 4 years ago, when coaches had to play him, so his signing for the vet min won't be a disaster

Feel like the Lakers might want to move away from contributors that don't work in the playoffs especially raw stat guys.

[Mos_Heat]

What's the obsession with Melo on the Lakers. Lebron doesn't need a backup that opens defensive holes at his very position. Melo also likes to feel the ball as he put it. Laker fans will turn when he starts passing up open shots so he can do 9 pumpfake jabsteps before throwing up something heavily contested. His efficiency will be similar in any setup. If he moulded his game around his more complementary skills he'd be the perfect 3rd or 4th scorer by now. The team needs to get smarter not double down on mistakes of last season.

He's obviously not helping in the playoffs, but his scoring can help in the regular season, especially if Kuzma is gone. He doesn't have the same clout he had 4 years ago, when coaches had to play him, so his signing for the vet min won't be a disaster

Feel like the Lakers might want to move away from contributors that don't work in the playoffs especially raw stat guys.

I'm just saying that one vet min spot for Melo is not something that's gonna change trajectory of the next season

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[thebigbird]

What's the obsession with Melo on the Lakers. Lebron doesn't need a backup that opens defensive holes at his very position. Melo also likes to feel the ball as he put it. Laker fans will turn when he starts passing up open shots so he can do 9 pumpfake jabsteps before throwing up something heavily contested. His efficiency will be similar in any setup. If he moulded his game around his more complementary skills he'd be the perfect 3rd or 4th scorer by now. The team needs to get smarter not double down on mistakes of last season.

Carmelo is a favorite among the “analytics are for neckbeard losers” and “I don’t care what the numbers say, he gets buckets” crowd. Carmelo is a turnstile on defense and he’s scored on below average efficiency every year since 2015. I want him nowhere near the Lakers. He shot 41% from 3 and 89% from the line last year and still managed to put up only a 54.7% TS. Every now and again he has a game that makes his fans pop up and say “and they tried blackballing melo from the league,” but those are few and far between.

[thebigbird]

He's obviously not helping in the playoffs, but his scoring can help in the regular season, especially if Kuzma is gone. He doesn't have the same clout he had 4 years ago, when coaches had to play him, so his signing for the vet min won't be a disaster

Feel like the Lakers might want to move away from contributors that don't work in the playoffs especially raw stat guys.

I'm just saying that one vet min spot for Melo is not something that's gonna change trajectory of the next season

Carmelo wouldn’t be a problem if he was willing to accept a Jared Dudley role. But he’s not going to do that. He’s going to want minutes and shots, neither of which the Lakers should give him. The Lakers need wing defenders and shooters, not a 37 year old chucker with a defense allergy.

[JN61]

You people need off-season thread for this guy? Might be healthy to take few months off.

[nzahir]

You people need off-season thread for this guy? Might be healthy to take few months off.

You really spent your time to write that out?

[nzahir]

Thoughts on the Lonzo rumors?

I don’t think they’re very legit and it’s really tough to do a sign and trade

But even if they were true, not sure I would hard cap us for him. Rather do it for Lowry

Lonzos shooting has improved a lot, but his finishing and half court creation is poor

Not sure if he is who we need

[LikeABosh]

Dennis wants bigger role. Riiiiiiight

[trickshot]

You people need off-season thread for this guy? Might be healthy to take few months off.

Most see it as an active Laker discussion thread. I mean, you're not too keen on him and even you posted.

[falcolombardi]

this is basically a fusion of the 2 biggest fanbases of the league . lakers and lebron fans

is normal for it to have a ton of activity

[LikeABosh]

Patty Mills is a much better shooter and he's way cheaper. Lonzo is not helping them in the half court and they are already great in transition, so it's another name hunting type of deal. Even Sexton with all of his flaws would be more useful

Obviously Sexton would be more useful. Sexton would be amazing, but I think a lot teams will outbid whatever the Lakers could offer. I like Mills tho.

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