Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor

[Juco24]

A player that averages his numbers at guard in the NBA has an incredible skill level. We need exactly his production at his position, he's young, athletic, not an idiot from what I know.

He's not a great defender, okay, but don't propose trading for Dame or Steph or a prime Steve Nash then.

In my opinion, most of the Sexton doubters seem to argue for the sake of saying something. Given what we've been sorely lacking, it's ridiculous.

Hey bruh, I come in peace... not going to get into a debate today because we both know where we stand. With that said... do you feel Sexton is a good ball mover? Do you think he makes others around him better? Lastly, do you think he compliments Randle?

No.

I think he needs to be good in pnr and drive and kick. He can do that and he can be our go to guy. He'll unlock RJ that way and take pressure off Randle.

He'll take us to another level, while neither Lonzo nor Frank would imo.

What do you think?

Good points! And if used correctly, I guess all those things can be true. What scares me about his game is (to date) he hasn't exhibited the ability consistently create for others. He likes to go iso - in which he excels.

He certainly takes the pressure off of Randle but here's another issue with that -- neither of them are off the ball players. Randle proved he's an all-star player by being the guy. He excelled by having the ball in his hands and needs a guy who can knock down open shots. Meanwhile Sexton is an average 3 point shooter.

Who do you hand the keys to? I can't see JR taking a back seat in a contract year. Then there's RJ. He's gotten a lot better @ catch and shoot along with the ability to make the pass after driving to the basket. Does Sexton fit in with him? I don't know man... you can't ignore the fact that Sexton is a dog but if you're honestly building around RJ/JR, I'd be looking for a lead guard who looks to make others better by creating and can hit an open shot. Yet at the same time being able to defend.

Imo, Sextons much better than say Lowry but I think Lowry would be a better fit for the Knicks presently constructed. (No, I'm not advocating for Lowry)

Simply put, I think Sexton is a guy who needs the ball to be successful. With Julius in tow, can Thibs/ should Thibs allow Sexton to become the main guy?

With that said, if they could make it work- obviously we're a better club with the trade. But Sexton (just going by his past) doesn't seem like a team first guy to me.

[NYK-Mentality85]

Well if you think only one team in the NBA wants sexton you kidding yourself. Is this the case because of what you believe?


Thats enough interest to call him a hot commodity to teams. You acting like its just the knicks lol. The league is not Blind to his talent at all. I can pull an individual report for every team on that list.

Knicks fans really be drinking they own kool aid.

You think Knick fans are drinking kool-aid, but you choose to cling to the leaks the Cavs are putting out trying to drum up business, without questioning why the Cavs feel the need to put leaks out

The only think I choose to do is say that Knicks aint the only game in town with Sexton. You choose to respond with your beliefs, when its a pretty sure thing that multiple Teams are interested in his talent. Why wouldnt they he is a border line all star type talent.

You're wrong. He's a ball hogging PG who his own teammates dislike, absolutely atrocious on Defense and nowhere near an "All-Star" performer.

Teams don't quit on future All-stars after only 3 years (as Cleveland is ALREADY quitting on Sexton 8th overall after only 3 years of failure).

[TerrenceClarke]

You think Knick fans are drinking kool-aid, but you choose to cling to the leaks the Cavs are putting out trying to drum up business, without questioning why the Cavs feel the need to put leaks out

The only think I choose to do is say that Knicks aint the only game in town with Sexton. You choose to respond with your beliefs, when its a pretty sure thing that multiple Teams are interested in his talent. Why wouldnt they he is a border line all star type talent.

I'm sure plenty are interested, in a vacuum.

The question is how many of them are offering more than what the Knicks are.

Based on the nature of the Cavs leaks, the answer appears to be not many, at this moment in time and the Cavs have an interest in moving him before the draft.

They also have interest in doing this.

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I think my point stand tho. It's not as if his values to teams falls off a cliff in a few months.

[GONYK]

The only think I choose to do is say that Knicks aint the only game in town with Sexton. You choose to respond with your beliefs, when its a pretty sure thing that multiple Teams are interested in his talent. Why wouldnt they he is a border line all star type talent.

I'm sure plenty are interested, in a vacuum.

The question is how many of them are offering more than what the Knicks are.

Based on the nature of the Cavs leaks, the answer appears to be not many, at this moment in time and the Cavs have an interest in moving him before the draft.

They also have interest in doing this.

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I think my point stand tho. It's not as if his values to teams falls off a cliff in a few months.

It certainly isn't going to improve, due to the contract situation.

[TerrenceClarke]

I'm sure plenty are interested, in a vacuum.

The question is how many of them are offering more than what the Knicks are.

Based on the nature of the Cavs leaks, the answer appears to be not many, at this moment in time and the Cavs have an interest in moving him before the draft.

They also have interest in doing this.

Read on Twitter

I think my point stand tho. It's not as if his values to teams falls off a cliff in a few months.

It certainly isn't going to improve, due to the contract situation.

I never said it did. I said that it wont be lower than what it is now to teams. If he balls out early next season , he will continue to keep the level that he is at now at minimum. Cleveland dos NOT have to trade him in just 2 weeks before his loses the value he at now, I am pretty sure you can agree with that.

He is a talented young player, he wont be given away for a bag of peanuts just cause in the next 2 weeks Cavs would be silly to do that. Right now Peanuts are on the table by the Knicks.

[NYF13]

I highly doubt the Knicks will pursue Sexton if it costs them more than a FRP plus Knox. We won’t be risking sending all these assets for a non-bonafide star.

We add Sexton only if we have a star like KAT/Lillard/Beal/Lavine, etc.

Similarly, I would think Knicks will pay a player similar to Randle’s contract. 1 yr high salary with the a team option the next. I am thinking Norman Powell. 2 yr with the 1st guaranteed at $25 million. Someone like that. No giving up assets just yet.

[jvsimonetti0514]

The longer they wait the more his value drops!!!!!!!

Teams aren’t going to trade anything for him if they know they can get him in restricted free agency!!!!!!!

The cavs aren’t going to pay him regardless!!!!!!!

Day by day his value drops!!!!!!!!

I dont see how his value drops specifically if he balling.. There is always a team that never wait till RFA and they pounce before then. Sexton will easily be a hot commodity. Between now and the deadline his value will remain the same. It wont be lower than what it is now. Sexton will never be traded for a bag of peanuts. There is also the sign and trade aspect as well. Cavs are in the Drivers seat for a few months.

Why will he easily be a hot commodity later when he isn't one now?

It's his contract situation that is the big reason his value is depressed.

That's only going to become more pressing closer to the deadline. Teams are going to offer less because they are getting less time to evaluate him in their organization and they know the Cavs get more desperate.

Cavs lose a lot of leverage as soon as they make the pick at #3

I don't think they necessarily need to make this trade before the draft but it's going to have to be before the start of the season. If they end up drafting Green or Suggs, they're going to want to give as many minutes as possible for their shiny new toy.

[Jimmit79]

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Clear shams info is coming from the cavs!!!!!!!

No way they’re in the driver seat!!!!!!!!!!

They are tho. There is no rush to make it happen. At worst they can wait till the trade dead line next season. If he balls out again next year, the price will go up.

Nope everyone has PG except Knicks and cavs don't want to pay him big bucks since they already have garland and #3 pick also how many teams out there have picks willing to trade for him knowing they can just wait when he becomes FA and call cavs bluff.

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[Jimmit79]

A player that averages his numbers at guard in the NBA has an incredible skill level. We need exactly his production at his position, he's young, athletic, not an idiot from what I know.

He's not a great defender, okay, but don't propose trading for Dame or Steph or a prime Steve Nash then.

In my opinion, most of the Sexton doubters seem to argue for the sake of saying something. Given what we've been sorely lacking, it's ridiculous.

Hey bruh, I come in peace... not going to get into a debate today because we both know where we stand. With that said... do you feel Sexton is a good ball mover? Do you think he makes others around him better? Lastly, do you think he compliments Randle?

No.

I think he needs to be good in pnr and drive and kick. He can do that and he can be our go to guy. He'll unlock RJ that way and take pressure off Randle.

He'll take us to another level, while neither Lonzo nor Frank would imo.

What do you think?

RJ has already unlocked his max potential corner 3pt chucker.

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[god shammgod]

forget sexton, trade randle for the 2nd or 3rd pick since those teams want an all-star vet

[DaGawd]

forget sexton, trade randle for the 2nd or 3rd pick since those teams want an all-star vet

So Randle to Cleveland?

[god shammgod]

forget sexton, trade randle for the 2nd or 3rd pick since those teams want an all-star vet

So Randle to Cleveland?

or houston. woj said they want to trade the pick too.

[DaGawd]

forget sexton, trade randle for the 2nd or 3rd pick since those teams want an all-star vet

So Randle to Cleveland?

or houston. woj said they want to trade the pick too.

Last I heard Houston wants to trade with Detroit for the number 1 pick

[god shammgod]

So Randle to Cleveland?

or houston. woj said they want to trade the pick too.

Last I heard Houston wants to trade with Detroit for the number 1 pick

he just said cleveland, houston & minny in the clip right above. maybe they want out if they can't get number 1.

[DOT]

Randle to Cleveland for 3, Sexton, and Love.

[god shammgod]

Randle to Cleveland for 3, Sexton, and Love.

or sexton & the 3rd pick for randle, knox and both 1sts this year. get it done leon. i'll throw in melo and nykmentality.

[KnicksGadfly]

They also have interest in doing this.

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I think my point stand tho. It's not as if his values to teams falls off a cliff in a few months.

It certainly isn't going to improve, due to the contract situation.

I never said it did. I said that it wont be lower than what it is now to teams. If he balls out early next season , he will continue to keep the level that he is at now at minimum. Cleveland dos NOT have to trade him in just 2 weeks before his loses the value he at now, I am pretty sure you can agree with that.

He is a talented young player, he wont be given away for a bag of peanuts just cause in the next 2 weeks Cavs would be silly to do that. Right now Peanuts are on the table by the Knicks.

But does Cleveland want that? Do they want an unhappy Sexton around their team, gunning for his next contract? Or their 1st rounder dealing with that? I can see your point, but from the way the Cavs are leaking, I think it’s clear they want this done soon.

Moreover, I predict the deadline to be dominated by bigger stars than Sexton. Let’s say the Wizards screw up again, which is a big possibility. Trailblazers are going nowhere again. In that case, the Knicks, who will by this time have at least signed a stopgap pg, will have moved on. Miami as well, possibly.

[DaGawd]

I wouldn’t be opposed to it but I know it’s not happening so I won’t even entertain it

[F N 11]

forget sexton, trade randle for the 2nd or 3rd pick since those teams want an all-star vet

[TerrenceClarke]

It certainly isn't going to improve, due to the contract situation.

I never said it did. I said that it wont be lower than what it is now to teams. If he balls out early next season , he will continue to keep the level that he is at now at minimum. Cleveland dos NOT have to trade him in just 2 weeks before his loses the value he at now, I am pretty sure you can agree with that.

He is a talented young player, he wont be given away for a bag of peanuts just cause in the next 2 weeks Cavs would be silly to do that. Right now Peanuts are on the table by the Knicks.

But does Cleveland want that? Do they want an unhappy Sexton around their team, gunning for his next contract? Or their 1st rounder dealing with that? I can see your point, but from the way the Cavs are leaking, I think it’s clear they want this done soon.

Moreover, I predict the deadline to be dominated by bigger stars than Sexton. Let’s say the Wizards screw up again, which is a big possibility. Trailblazers are going nowhere again. In that case, the Knicks, who will by this time have at least signed a stopgap pg, will have moved on. Miami as well, possibly.

season does not start to the fall thats longer than 2 weeks. if he is unhappy they can move him at the start. He does not have to be around the team for while. Its no sweat off their backs. They can hold him longer than two weeks, and still get rid of their "disgruntled" player before the season.

I actually prefer that, cause then the knicks cant trade this years draft pick before the fall after they choose him.