2021 NBA Draft, Part 2

Coeur · Post #381 » by **Coeur** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:48 am

clyde21 wrote:looks like it's trending more and more than Barnes will be top 5 and Kuminga will drop out of the top 5, some even suggesting Kuminga might drop out of the top 10.

Kings could be a fall down spot for Jalen Johnson or Kuminga

Can’t see how kuminga really drops down any lower than 9. Orlando, or golden State or Sac all should take him with only top 4, JJ, Scottie Barnes. Then you’d have 7,8,& 9. 3 that should all take kuminga and I can’t really think of 3guys I’d take ahead of him…….. maybe…Roko? Sengun?? Keon orSpringer……. Isiah Jackson

Kuminga to the pacers

babyjax13 · Post #382 » by **babyjax13** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:19 am

clyde21 wrote:Toronto eying Barnes at #4 apparently, might prefer him to Suggs

Honestly I think Barnes going as high as 3 is less crazy than a lot of people think. It's not the decision *I* would make, but if you said he ended up being the third best player in this draft after developing a reasonable 3 point shot (say, 33-35%) that seems absolutely reasonable.

clyde21 · Post #383 » by **clyde21** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:29 am

babyjax13 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:Toronto eying Barnes at #4 apparently, might prefer him to Suggs

Honestly I think Barnes going as high as 3 is less crazy than a lot of people think. It's not the decision *I* would make, but if you said he ended up being the third best player in this draft after developing a reasonable 3 point shot (say, 33-35%) that seems absolutely reasonable.

i can see an argument as 5th the highest after Mobley/Cade/Green/Suggs...but yea, i wouldn't be totally shocked if he ends up better than that too, the weakness although it's a big one in today's NBA is not completely unfixable and dude has a great head on his shoulders who should continue to get better. it's not crazy.

3toheadmelo · Post #384 » by **3toheadmelo** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:04 pm

Taking Scottie Barnes with a top 5 pick isn’t gonna end well imo

LofJ · Post #385 » by **LofJ** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:18 pm

If the Cavs take Barnes at 3 and Mobley/Suggs are both on the board, who do the Raptors draft?

chaimer · Post #386 » by **chaimer** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:58 pm

Why wouln't cavs go with mobley?

LofJ · Post #387 » by **LofJ** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:23 pm

chaimer wrote:Why wouln't cavs go with mobley?

They should, but you never know what some NBA teams are thinking. It's an interesting hypothetical, the teams picking after the Cavs should at least be prepared for it.

Hal14 · Post #388 » by **Hal14** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:26 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Taking Scottie Barnes with a top 5 pick isn’t gonna end well imo

Has anyone ever gone top 5 in the draft who started less than 1/3 of their team's games and played less than 25 mins a game during their final season of college?

If so, did any of those players actually pan out in the NBA and perform as top 5 draft picks in the NBA?

Hal14 · Post #389 » by **Hal14** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:27 pm

LofJ wrote:If the Cavs take Barnes at 3 and Mobley/Suggs are both on the board, who do the Raptors draft?

I would think Mobley

Onus · Post #390 » by **Onus** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:44 pm

Hal14 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Taking Scottie Barnes with a top 5 pick isn’t gonna end well imo

Has anyone ever gone top 5 in the draft who started less than 1/3 of their team's games and played less than 25 mins a game during their final season of college?

I’m pretty sure pat williams last year and Marvin Williams out of unc off the top of my head. Maybe dion waiters though I think he was 6.

Big J · Post #391 » by **Big J** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:07 pm

Onus wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Taking Scottie Barnes with a top 5 pick isn’t gonna end well imo

Has anyone ever gone top 5 in the draft who started less than 1/3 of their team's games and played less than 25 mins a game during their final season of college?

I’m pretty sure pat williams last year and Marvin Williams out of unc off the top of my head. Maybe dion waiters though I think he was 6.

Westbrook? Barnes is a monster athlete and will be an All NBA level Marion esque defender the day he suits up.

LofJ · Post #392 » by **LofJ** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:27 pm

Big J wrote:
Onus wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Has anyone ever gone top 5 in the draft who started less than 1/3 of their team's games and played less than 25 mins a game during their final season of college?

I’m pretty sure pat williams last year and Marvin Williams out of unc off the top of my head. Maybe dion waiters though I think he was 6.

Westbrook? Barnes is a monster athlete and will be an All NBA level Marion esque defender the day he suits up.

The talent of this class is on the defensive side. I think there will be multiple all-NBA defensive players in this draft class.

Cunningham, Mobley, Suggs, Barnes, Mitchell, Kuminga, Wagner, the Johnsons, Mitchell, Jones, Murphy, Jackson, Springer, etc. have all been praised for their defense.

GIMME_DATT · Post #393 » by **GIMME_DATT** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:56 pm

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babyjax13 · Post #394 » by **babyjax13** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:28 pm

GIMME_DATT wrote:

Read on Twitter

YES, that is fantastic!

EMG518 · Post #395 » by **EMG518** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:11 am

Love his game, really happy for him getting cleared.

Catchall · Post #396 » by **Catchall** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:25 am

Roko Prkacin belongs in the same draft range as Jalen Johnson and Franz Wagner.

Thanks.

Coeur · Post #397 » by **Coeur** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 3:54 pm

Catchall wrote:Roko Prkacin belongs in the same draft range as Jalen Johnson and Franz Wagner.

Thanks.

Jalen Johnson should go 4-9, Roko 6-14, Wagner 19-25

Really can’t figure out why Roko isn’t being talked about way higher. I think he’s the perfect pick at 14 for golden State

Catchall · Post #398 » by **Catchall** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:35 pm

Coeur wrote:
Catchall wrote:Roko Prkacin belongs in the same draft range as Jalen Johnson and Franz Wagner.

Thanks.

Jalen Johnson should go 4-9, Roko 6-14, Wagner 19-25

Really can’t figure out why Roko isn’t being talked about way higher. I think he’s the perfect pick at 14 for golden State

Think his floor is pretty much Rui Hachimura, and he's 3 years younger entering the draft.

WargamesX · Post #399 » by **WargamesX** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:43 pm

LofJ wrote:
Big J wrote:
Onus wrote:I’m pretty sure pat williams last year and Marvin Williams out of unc off the top of my head. Maybe dion waiters though I think he was 6.

Westbrook? Barnes is a monster athlete and will be an All NBA level Marion esque defender the day he suits up.

The talent of this class is on the defensive side. I think there will be multiple all-NBA defensive players in this draft class.

Cunningham, Mobley, Suggs, Barnes, Mitchell, Kuminga, Wagner, the Johnsons, Mitchell, Jones, Murphy, Jackson, Springer, etc. have all been praised for their defense.

I call it the two way player draft. I can’t think of the last draft with so many two way prospects. Even the players who aren’t good at offense, don’t have outright broken jumper

clyde21 · Post #400 » by **clyde21** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:52 pm

LofJ wrote:
Big J wrote:
Onus wrote:I’m pretty sure pat williams last year and Marvin Williams out of unc off the top of my head. Maybe dion waiters though I think he was 6.

Westbrook? Barnes is a monster athlete and will be an All NBA level Marion esque defender the day he suits up.

The talent of this class is on the defensive side. I think there will be multiple all-NBA defensive players in this draft class.

Cunningham, Mobley, Suggs, Barnes, Mitchell, Kuminga, Wagner, the Johnsons, Mitchell, Jones, Murphy, Jackson, Springer, etc. have all been praised for their defense.

u missed of the best defenders