KIRAG wrote:BigDan245 wrote:
Told y'all...it will be a miracle if they get through these finals without a big name getting covid.
I don't understand how vaccine works, aren't players vaccinated?
FTFY
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KIRAG wrote:BigDan245 wrote:
Told y'all...it will be a miracle if they get through these finals without a big name getting covid.
I don't understand how vaccine works, aren't players vaccinated?
hyper316 wrote:KIRAG wrote:BigDan245 wrote:
Told y'all...it will be a miracle if they get through these finals without a big name getting covid.
I don't understand how vaccine works, aren't players vaccinated?
FTFY
skones wrote:pj0tr wrote:
Since Bud complained about the refs in Game 1, the Bucks have shot at least 9+ more FTs in every game compared to the Suns. When Bud complained, its good strategy.
When Monty does it, its clearly complaining and not coaching his team well enough to try to get to the FT line.
Lol.
Lol is right, because it's convenient to ignore context and complain about a problem that doesn't actually exist.
This idea that Phoenix should shoot anywhere near the same amount of free throws as Milwaukee when Milwaukee is something like +46 points in the paint over the course of the series is flatly ridiculous. The Suns average 18.8 attempts per contest in this series inside of 5 feet. The Bucks average 32.8 attempts per contest in this series inside of 5 feet. It's comical to think that his team is "trying to get to the FT line" when these numbers make Phoenix look allergic to the restricted area when put up against Milwaukee's attempts.
In game 1, Milwaukee had 24 attempts inside of 5 feet and shot 54.2%, a number well below the team's baseline. Phoenix had 22 attempts inside of 5 feet and shot 72.7%. This A) indicates that Milwaukee was likely getting uncalled contact in that area given the abnormally low percentage, and B) should not have gone to the line 10 times less than Phoenix during that contest. That makes Bud's complaint, reasonable.
When Monty made HIS complaint after game three? Phoenix made 21 attempts inside of 5 feet and shot 62%. Milwaukee made 36 attempts and shot 67%. That speaks for itself.
pj0tr wrote:
So basically, the refs should just give more FTs to Milwaukee because of their playstyle, and ignore the Bucks slapping the Suns players hands and wrists on jumpshots?
Seems fairly logical. Yall wanna complain about Booker's should-have-been 6th, 7th, and 8th fouls, which are legit.
But go back and rewatch the first 3 Quarters of Game 4. Suns got called for some really stupid ticky-tack stuff, while the Bucks are allowed to body, hack, and body some more Booker, Paul, and Ayton.
The Bucks are literally beating the **** out of the Suns in terms of physicality when the Suns are on offense, and yet players like Giannis can literally just run into Ayton and get instant fouls called.
Bud just told Jrue Holiday, go and beat the living **** out of CP3. Thats the strategy in this series. And to his credit, Holiday has done it, and the refs haven't called it, so why deviate?
skones wrote:pj0tr wrote:
So basically, the refs should just give more FTs to Milwaukee because of their playstyle, and ignore the Bucks slapping the Suns players hands and wrists on jumpshots?
Seems fairly logical. Yall wanna complain about Booker's should-have-been 6th, 7th, and 8th fouls, which are legit.
But go back and rewatch the first 3 Quarters of Game 4. Suns got called for some really stupid ticky-tack stuff, while the Bucks are allowed to body, hack, and body some more Booker, Paul, and Ayton.
The Bucks are literally beating the **** out of the Suns in terms of physicality when the Suns are on offense, and yet players like Giannis can literally just run into Ayton and get instant fouls called.
Bud just told Jrue Holiday, go and beat the living **** out of CP3. Thats the strategy in this series. And to his credit, Holiday has done it, and the refs haven't called it, so why deviate?
Now you're just building a straw man. The Bucks get more free throws because they get their shots in areas where a player is more likely to take contact. Jump shooters don't create contact. This isn't a novel concept. It's one everyone is wholly aware of. There's a reason you ignored the reality of my post which lays out a pretty plain argument as to why there's an actual disparity in foul shots taken. You're doubling down and complaining anyway out of delusion. It's really that simple.
pj0tr wrote:skones wrote:pj0tr wrote:
So basically, the refs should just give more FTs to Milwaukee because of their playstyle, and ignore the Bucks slapping the Suns players hands and wrists on jumpshots?
Seems fairly logical. Yall wanna complain about Booker's should-have-been 6th, 7th, and 8th fouls, which are legit.
But go back and rewatch the first 3 Quarters of Game 4. Suns got called for some really stupid ticky-tack stuff, while the Bucks are allowed to body, hack, and body some more Booker, Paul, and Ayton.
The Bucks are literally beating the **** out of the Suns in terms of physicality when the Suns are on offense, and yet players like Giannis can literally just run into Ayton and get instant fouls called.
Bud just told Jrue Holiday, go and beat the living **** out of CP3. Thats the strategy in this series. And to his credit, Holiday has done it, and the refs haven't called it, so why deviate?
Now you're just building a straw man. The Bucks get more free throws because they get their shots in areas where a player is more likely to take contact. Jump shooters don't create contact. This isn't a novel concept. It's one everyone is wholly aware of. There's a reason you ignored the reality of my post which lays out a pretty plain argument as to why there's an actual disparity in foul shots taken. You're doubling down and complaining anyway out of delusion. It's really that simple.
Did I argue any of the shooting numbers in the paint? No. DId I argue the number of shots in the paint and in the restricted area?
No.
Your point is this - given the math numbers of the shots in the paint and the lack of ones by the Suns, it just makes sense that the Bucks shoot more FTs. Which is fair.
But you ignore the other side of it. The Bucks are committing obvious fouls when they play defense which are not being called, and its largely being ignored because the Suns play a different style of offense, to the strengths of their team, than the Bucks.
EDIT: And also your point about the Bucks low shooting % in Game 1 makes no sense, especially considering Phoenix is actually one of the top teams in the playoffs at defending shots at the rim, given how well Ayton is played.
You're just taking statistics and using them, without really watching what is happening, and how the Suns have played against teams that have tried to punish them in the paint, like the Lakers.
BigO wrote:pj0tr wrote:skones wrote:
Now you're just building a straw man. The Bucks get more free throws because they get their shots in areas where a player is more likely to take contact. Jump shooters don't create contact. This isn't a novel concept. It's one everyone is wholly aware of. There's a reason you ignored the reality of my post which lays out a pretty plain argument as to why there's an actual disparity in foul shots taken. You're doubling down and complaining anyway out of delusion. It's really that simple.
Did I argue any of the shooting numbers in the paint? No. DId I argue the number of shots in the paint and in the restricted area?
No.
Your point is this - given the math numbers of the shots in the paint and the lack of ones by the Suns, it just makes sense that the Bucks shoot more FTs. Which is fair.
But you ignore the other side of it. The Bucks are committing obvious fouls when they play defense which are not being called, and its largely being ignored because the Suns play a different style of offense, to the strengths of their team, than the Bucks.
EDIT: And also your point about the Bucks low shooting % in Game 1 makes no sense, especially considering Phoenix is actually one of the top teams in the playoffs at defending shots at the rim, given how well Ayton is played.
You're just taking statistics and using them, without really watching what is happening, and how the Suns have played against teams that have tried to punish them in the paint, like the Lakers.
Stop doubling down. The point about the Bucks attacking the basket significantly more than the Suns is a fact. Your subjective analysis that the Bucks are committing obvious fouls is NOT a fact. It's an opinion. there is a difference between fact and opinion.
Or to put it a way you can understand, "it's obvious the Bucks are not committing fouls when they play defense". Now we have two different opinions.
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