Cubs Cry Foul

[trwi7]

Wait...what are you complaining about then? Apparently Suppan is as good as our FA pitchers

I'm saying they would fare the same mainly because of defense. We have one plus defender on the infield, one in the outfield, one still learning a new position on the infield and one learning a new position in the outfield.

Weeks is better than DeRosa

Soriano sucks.

I never said he sucks however I still for the life of me have no idea why he bats leadoff. He's a horrible leadoff hitter. He'd be much more valuable batting in a run producing spot.

Of course the Cubs have an advantage in the FA market, teams that make more money usually spend more.

And you don't see a problem with that? Oh hey big markets are going to make more money and players want to play in big markets so instead of a salary cap let's just leave it like it is.

I'm saying no Brewer fans were complaining about the salary inequalities earlier in the year.

And I'm saying go back and look at some threads. Go back to the Bucks board before this board was made and read some of those threads. There were PLENTY of people talking about it.

Also I'm not going to blame the Brewers losing this division on payroll. I'm going to blame it on a horribly inept manager who's in way over his head.

[SportsWorld]

Calm down Brewer fans. You have a bunch of young players and will keep improving over the next few years. Just use the Chicago Bulls as an example.

[livestrong4ever]

Calm down Brewer fans. You have a bunch of young players and will keep improving over the next few years. Just use the Chicago Bulls as an example.

what do u mean calm down.

i am calm. very calm and relaxed. we will be in the playoffs in 2 weeks while cubs fans bitch about some curse that doesnt exsist and everyone will be rawring in the streets of milwaukee.

[trwi7]

Calm down Brewer fans. You have a bunch of young players and will keep improving over the next few years. Just use the Chicago Bulls as an example.

I'm calm, it's amazing how watching that Shandi from Lingo calms you down.

[trwi7]

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what do u mean calm down.

i am calm. very calm and relaxed. we will be in the playoffs in 2 weeks while cubs fans bitch about some curse that doesnt exsist and everyone will be rawring in the streets of milwaukee.

What does rawring mean?

[livestrong4ever]

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What does rawring mean?

rawring=happy screaming. thank you sir.

[trwi7]

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rawring=happy screaming. thank you sir.

You mean roaring?

[mattbulls]

Brewer Fans,

You do realize that when your Stud players and I will admit you have great players become Free Agents you will have to pay the money or lose them.

Just because Braun, Prince, Etc. don't make a lot doesn't mean they aren't worth it......

Edit: When your players become free agents you will have to sign them to larger contract thus expanding your payroll. If you don't want to spend the money then you will lose them and keep your small payroll.

Prince, Braun, Hart, and Etc. may be playing with smaller contracts but in reality they aren't making what they earn. That's why you can have an team equal to the Cubs with a smaller payroll.

Why should we be punished for spending money to win??

Have fun in the future trying to keep your stud without spending money.

[trwi7]

Brewer Fans,

You do realize that when your Stud players and I will admit you have great players become Free Agents you will have to pay the money of lose them. Just because Braun, Prince, Etc. don't make a lot doesn't mean they aren't worth it......

Umm what?

[skitch815]

Brewer Fans,

You do realize that when your Stud players and I will admit you have great players become Free Agents you will have to pay the money or lose them.

Just because Braun, Prince, Etc. don't make a lot doesn't mean they aren't worth it......

Edit: When your players become free agents you will have to sign them to larger contract thus expanding your payroll. If you don't want to spend the money then you will lose them and keep your small payroll.

Prince, Braun, Hart, and Etc. may be playing with smaller contracts but in reality they aren't making what they earn. That's why you can have an team equal to the Cubs with a smaller payroll.

Why should we be punished for spending money to win??

Have fun in the future trying to keep your stud without spending money.

Jim Hendry? Is that you?

[schweig]

Mattbulls, who punishes the Cubs for spending money to win, or for spending money to lose? There's no need to get bitchy about the fact the Cubs could basically take our roster and then add an MVP-caliber player to it, or 2 perennial all-stars. That should be worth a few wins.

The Cubs are playing 6 of their last 9 against teams that are paying all their players roughly more (Pirates) or less (Marlins) than Zambrano will make in the next 2 years. That's some sweet punishment.

There are three teams below the Brewers in payroll who are going to make the playoffs, and there are three teams above the Cubs who won't. But sure, woe is you.

The first three teams did a good job with their drafting and resources. The last three threw a bunch of money away just like the Cubs did. What's your point?

[GYBE]

The first three teams did a good job with their drafting and resources. The last three threw a bunch of money away just like the Cubs did. What's your point?

That money is far from the determining factor for wins.

[MickeyDavis]

Looks like Griffey is "injured" and won't play in the seasons last series against the Scrubs. I'll be expecting Brewer players to whine as if they were Scrubs players.

[mattbulls]

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That money is far from the determining factor for wins.

Whoaaaaaaaa!

[MickeyDavis]

I agree that spending money alone is not a guarantee of winning (see Baltimore and others). But it sure gives a team a lot of leeway. The Brewers signed Suppan over the winter, it was our only free agent addition. If he had blown out his arm we could not have gone out and spent another $10 million on a replacement for this year. When we sign a free agent we live and die with that free agent, we can't just spend more money if a guy doesn't work out.

[Kerb Hohl]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3028635

Uh oh...Jaque get out your tissues!!!

Also: New Cubs gripe after Cooper apparently tried to get his old team into the playoffs.

The Braves came from Milwaukee so they will tank this series.

[schweig]

I never said money was the determining factor. Hey, I'm the last person to want to see Cuban or someone buy the team and get some baseball people in there to draft a couple guys who don't flame out in between the occasional $300M offseason.

All right, so how do the Cubs fans here see their last 9 games going? It's hard to see them losing any more than 3 games, and it's really hard to see the Brewers going 8-3 over the same stretch.

[MickeyDavis]

Looks like LaRussa is a Brewers fan, Pujols may be out for the rest of the season. Damn.

[Ruben Douglas]

Cubs not thrilled with Astros pitchers

September 19, 2007
By Jeff Vorva the daily southtown
CHICAGO -- The Cubs aren't very happy about Milwaukee getting to face three rookie starting pitchers in its series against Houston.

They aren't making a huge deal about it, however.

The Cubs and Brewers are engaged in a heated battle for first place in the National League Central. Houston had rookie Matt Albers start against Milwaukee on Monday and rookie Felipe Paulino on Tuesday (instead of veteran Woody Williams), and Juan Gutierrez is slated to start tonight (replacing Roy Oswalt, whose wife is expecting a baby).

"That ticks us off," Cubs outfielder Cliff Floyd said. "But you can't help a family situation. I had one this year (the death of his father, Cornelius in August). Oswalt's having a kid. God bless him.

"I don't understand the Woody Williams deal. But I'm not going to question (Astros manager) Cecil Cooper's decision. It's their team. They can do what the heck they want to do. At the same time, we would like everybody to play their (best) guys."

What a bunch of garbage.

1. Albers has made 16 starts and has been in their rotation for awhile.
2. Why would you not want to see the talent you have when you are out of the playoff race. Makes sense to keep throwing a crappy Woody Williams out there I guess.
3. Roy Oswalt and his wife are having a baby. What are you going to do?

If the Cubs can't beat crappy teams with their $400 million dollar payroll then they don't deserve to win anyway. Get over it.

You wouldn't be happy about it either. That being said, the Cubs aren't making a big deal about this, neither was the paper, but the Brewer fans sure like to read a lot into this comment.

Regardless, how did the Brewers do last night against that rookie?

[ReasonablySober]

I'm waiting for Yost's buddy Cox to come up with some reason why Hudson and Smoltz won't be able to make their starts against us this weekend.