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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#381 » by clyde21 » Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:56 pm

Cleveland should never be allowed to pick in the top 3 ever again if they let Mobley drop to 4 (i already want a 10 year ban on them picking in the top 5)
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#382 » by yoyoboy » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:05 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:I'm more confidant than most CLE will pass on Mobley and Toronto gets him

- CLE doesnt know what they doing
- Allen there ready to be re-upped
- Cavs want a stud wing
- They lack savvyness in trades and I dont think they are going to start trading Allen, Sexton
- Mobley's agent and Masai can force their way one spot to drop down - not far fetched

Mobley isn’t falling past 3, guarantee that. There’s a chance he actually doesn’t fall past Houston tbh. Toronto will grab Suggs or trade down.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#383 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:19 pm

yoyoboy wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:I'm more confidant than most CLE will pass on Mobley and Toronto gets him

- CLE doesnt know what they doing
- Allen there ready to be re-upped
- Cavs want a stud wing
- They lack savvyness in trades and I dont think they are going to start trading Allen, Sexton
- Mobley's agent and Masai can force their way one spot to drop down - not far fetched

Mobley isn’t falling past 3, guarantee that. There’s a chance he actually doesn’t fall past Houston tbh. Toronto will grab Suggs or trade down.


Not guaranteed @ all. Likely 50/50 on if they draft Mobley with Kuminga/Barnes/Suggs there. With Toronto right behind them, very easily could see Masai and mobley's camp to force his way one spot to land in Toronto.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#384 » by clyde21 » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:21 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
yoyoboy wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:I'm more confidant than most CLE will pass on Mobley and Toronto gets him

- CLE doesnt know what they doing
- Allen there ready to be re-upped
- Cavs want a stud wing
- They lack savvyness in trades and I dont think they are going to start trading Allen, Sexton
- Mobley's agent and Masai can force their way one spot to drop down - not far fetched

Mobley isn’t falling past 3, guarantee that. There’s a chance he actually doesn’t fall past Houston tbh. Toronto will grab Suggs or trade down.


Not guaranteed @ all. Likely 50/50 on if they draft Mobley with Kuminga/Barnes/Suggs there. With Toronto right behind them, very easily could see Masai and mobley's camp to force his way one spot to land in Toronto.


what is this based on? threre is no way any of those 3 go ahead of Mobley. sounds like you're just hoping thats the case.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#385 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:23 pm

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yoyoboy wrote:Mobley isn’t falling past 3, guarantee that. There’s a chance he actually doesn’t fall past Houston tbh. Toronto will grab Suggs or trade down.


Not guaranteed @ all. Likely 50/50 on if they draft Mobley with Kuminga/Barnes/Suggs there. With Toronto right behind them, very easily could see Masai and mobley's camp to force his way one spot to land in Toronto.


what is this based on? threre is no way any of those 3 go ahead of Mobley. sounds like you're just hoping thats the case.


Based on where the Cavs sit roster wise. Seems they hoping Green falls to them .. so haven't heard anything significant they gunning for Mobley.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#386 » by Marcus » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:26 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Not guaranteed @ all. Likely 50/50 on if they draft Mobley with Kuminga/Barnes/Suggs there. With Toronto right behind them, very easily could see Masai and mobley's camp to force his way one spot to land in Toronto.


what is this based on? threre is no way any of those 3 go ahead of Mobley. sounds like you're just hoping thats the case.


Based on where the Cavs sit roster wise. Seems they hoping Green falls to them .. so haven't heard anything significant they gunning for Mobley.


Green falling to the Cavs would likely mean Mobes goes 2nd then. The top 3 is fairly clear at this point.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#387 » by yoyoboy » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:27 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
yoyoboy wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:I'm more confidant than most CLE will pass on Mobley and Toronto gets him

- CLE doesnt know what they doing
- Allen there ready to be re-upped
- Cavs want a stud wing
- They lack savvyness in trades and I dont think they are going to start trading Allen, Sexton
- Mobley's agent and Masai can force their way one spot to drop down - not far fetched

Mobley isn’t falling past 3, guarantee that. There’s a chance he actually doesn’t fall past Houston tbh. Toronto will grab Suggs or trade down.


Not guaranteed @ all. Likely 50/50 on if they draft Mobley with Kuminga/Barnes/Suggs there. With Toronto right behind them, very easily could see Masai and mobley's camp to force his way one spot to land in Toronto.

Sounds more like wishful thinking than a realistic scenario. How often does a player forcing his way to a specific team even happen? Rarely, if ever, and there's no indication Mobley wants that one way or another. And Kuminga/Barnes/Suggs are not viewed in the same light that the first three prospects are, so it's hard to see any of Detroit, Houston, or Cleveland reaching. Koby isn't the kind to try to outsmart everyone like Chris Grant was, and considering Koby didn't mind drafting Garland just because Sexton was on the team, I highly doubt Jarrett Allen is going to make him think twice about taking the clear BPA in Mobley.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#388 » by clyde21 » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:29 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Not guaranteed @ all. Likely 50/50 on if they draft Mobley with Kuminga/Barnes/Suggs there. With Toronto right behind them, very easily could see Masai and mobley's camp to force his way one spot to land in Toronto.


what is this based on? threre is no way any of those 3 go ahead of Mobley. sounds like you're just hoping thats the case.


Based on where the Cavs sit roster wise. Seems they hoping Green falls to them .. so haven't heard anything significant they gunning for Mobley.


if Green falls to 3 then Mobley goes 2...either way he's not dropping to 4.

i know that's your hope but it's a slim chance...but NBA GMs are not very smart in general so I guess u never know.
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Post#389 » by CptCrunch » Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:33 pm

By all leaked rumors, Houston is about to make a franchise altering mistake after lucking out on Detroit picking the media darling Cade.

If Cleveland picks Suggs or Barnes, it would be tragic.
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Post#390 » by NotMyKawhi » Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:50 pm

CptCrunch wrote:By all leaked rumors, Houston is about to make a franchise altering mistake after lucking out on Detroit picking the media darling Cade.

If Cleveland picks Suggs or Barnes, it would be tragic.



1. mobley
2. Green
3. Cade
4. Suggs
5. Barnes

That's your board?
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#391 » by CptCrunch » Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:07 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:
CptCrunch wrote:By all leaked rumors, Houston is about to make a franchise altering mistake after lucking out on Detroit picking the media darling Cade.

If Cleveland picks Suggs or Barnes, it would be tragic.



1. mobley
2. Green
3. Cade
4. Suggs
5. Barnes

That's your board?


Top 16 for the lotto

1. Mobley

..big gap..

2. Suggs
3. Barnes
4. Cade

..gap..

5. Green
6. Wagner
7. Sengun
8. Giddy
not in order: Jalen Johnson/Bouknight/Thomas/Garuba/Kuminga/Moody/Springer/Isaiah Jackson

Not draftable in the lotto: Davion
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#392 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:04 am

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WuTang_OG wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
what is this based on? threre is no way any of those 3 go ahead of Mobley. sounds like you're just hoping thats the case.


Based on where the Cavs sit roster wise. Seems they hoping Green falls to them .. so haven't heard anything significant they gunning for Mobley.


Green falling to the Cavs would likely mean Mobes goes 2nd then. The top 3 is fairly clear at this point.


Green isnt falling to the Cavs. I'm just saying that's their target since they need a wing.

With Allen, just dont think Cavs go with Mobley. Think they pull the trigger on either Suggs or Kuminga/Barnes.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#393 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:06 am

clyde21 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
what is this based on? threre is no way any of those 3 go ahead of Mobley. sounds like you're just hoping thats the case.


Based on where the Cavs sit roster wise. Seems they hoping Green falls to them .. so haven't heard anything significant they gunning for Mobley.


if Green falls to 3 then Mobley goes 2...either way he's not dropping to 4.

i know that's your hope but it's a slim chance...but NBA GMs are not very smart in general so I guess u never know.


No, I am just saying thats the Cavs target. Cade and Green are locked in 1-2. Cavs wild card here. Given their lack of savvyness, I think they go with an easier choice of Suggs/Kuminga/Barnes. They like Allen, they'll re-up him - dont see them trading him if they get Mobley which is what theyll likely have to do. Rumours of Sexton being traded... I think they pull something off on draft night which ultimately allows them to grab Suggs.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#394 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:09 am

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WuTang_OG wrote:
yoyoboy wrote:Mobley isn’t falling past 3, guarantee that. There’s a chance he actually doesn’t fall past Houston tbh. Toronto will grab Suggs or trade down.


Not guaranteed @ all. Likely 50/50 on if they draft Mobley with Kuminga/Barnes/Suggs there. With Toronto right behind them, very easily could see Masai and mobley's camp to force his way one spot to land in Toronto.

Sounds more like wishful thinking than a realistic scenario. How often does a player forcing his way to a specific team even happen? Rarely, if ever, and there's no indication Mobley wants that one way or another. And Kuminga/Barnes/Suggs are not viewed in the same light that the first three prospects are, so it's hard to see any of Detroit, Houston, or Cleveland reaching. Koby isn't the kind to try to outsmart everyone like Chris Grant was, and considering Koby didn't mind drafting Garland just because Sexton was on the team, I highly doubt Jarrett Allen is going to make him think twice about taking the clear BPA in Mobley.

Happens every year. Halburton to SAC and Ball to Charlotte - both scenarios were reported to happen.

I'd be more concerned if OKC was sitting third but its the Cavs who historically mess things up / dont have the best reputation. Could very well see Mobley and Masai orchestrating only one pick down to TOR
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Post#395 » by The Moose » Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:27 am

Cavs passing on Mobley would be a disaster imo

He and Cade are in their own tier in this class
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Post#396 » by God Squad » Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:40 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
yoyoboy wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Not guaranteed @ all. Likely 50/50 on if they draft Mobley with Kuminga/Barnes/Suggs there. With Toronto right behind them, very easily could see Masai and mobley's camp to force his way one spot to land in Toronto.

Sounds more like wishful thinking than a realistic scenario. How often does a player forcing his way to a specific team even happen? Rarely, if ever, and there's no indication Mobley wants that one way or another. And Kuminga/Barnes/Suggs are not viewed in the same light that the first three prospects are, so it's hard to see any of Detroit, Houston, or Cleveland reaching. Koby isn't the kind to try to outsmart everyone like Chris Grant was, and considering Koby didn't mind drafting Garland just because Sexton was on the team, I highly doubt Jarrett Allen is going to make him think twice about taking the clear BPA in Mobley.

Happens every year. Halburton to SAC and Ball to Charlotte - both scenarios were reported to happen.

I'd be more concerned if OKC was sitting third but its the Cavs who historically mess things up / dont have the best reputation. Could very well see Mobley and Masai orchestrating only one pick down to TOR

All of this is based on what WuTang_OG imagines in his head. None of it is based on facts or proof. All of it is quite nonsensical tbh. We have no say in who'll be available at 4, but we probably want Mobley and draft whoever falls.
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Post#397 » by clyde21 » Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:38 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
yoyoboy wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Not guaranteed @ all. Likely 50/50 on if they draft Mobley with Kuminga/Barnes/Suggs there. With Toronto right behind them, very easily could see Masai and mobley's camp to force his way one spot to land in Toronto.

Sounds more like wishful thinking than a realistic scenario. How often does a player forcing his way to a specific team even happen? Rarely, if ever, and there's no indication Mobley wants that one way or another. And Kuminga/Barnes/Suggs are not viewed in the same light that the first three prospects are, so it's hard to see any of Detroit, Houston, or Cleveland reaching. Koby isn't the kind to try to outsmart everyone like Chris Grant was, and considering Koby didn't mind drafting Garland just because Sexton was on the team, I highly doubt Jarrett Allen is going to make him think twice about taking the clear BPA in Mobley.

Happens every year. Halburton to SAC and Ball to Charlotte - both scenarios were reported to happen.

I'd be more concerned if OKC was sitting third but its the Cavs who historically mess things up / dont have the best reputation. Could very well see Mobley and Masai orchestrating only one pick down to TOR


last year's top 3 was set...Antman, Wiseman and Melo in w/e order...and that's exactly what happened.

and Hali should've gone much higher (he was my 4th ranked prospect last yr)...but again, the lower you go in the draft the less of a lock things become.

what we do know is that Cade-Mobley-Green is a lock for the top 3 at this point, in w/e order...like Antman/Wise/Melo were last yr...just like Zion/Ja/Barrett were locks the year before, and so on. top of the draft is always pretty easy to predict unless you get one of those Anthony Bennett years.

Raps most likely will be choosing between Suggs, Barnes or Kuminga...seems like Barnes is getting the most talk right now but who knows...maybe they'll consider a trade down even.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#398 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:25 pm

God Squad wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
yoyoboy wrote:Sounds more like wishful thinking than a realistic scenario. How often does a player forcing his way to a specific team even happen? Rarely, if ever, and there's no indication Mobley wants that one way or another. And Kuminga/Barnes/Suggs are not viewed in the same light that the first three prospects are, so it's hard to see any of Detroit, Houston, or Cleveland reaching. Koby isn't the kind to try to outsmart everyone like Chris Grant was, and considering Koby didn't mind drafting Garland just because Sexton was on the team, I highly doubt Jarrett Allen is going to make him think twice about taking the clear BPA in Mobley.

Happens every year. Halburton to SAC and Ball to Charlotte - both scenarios were reported to happen.

I'd be more concerned if OKC was sitting third but its the Cavs who historically mess things up / dont have the best reputation. Could very well see Mobley and Masai orchestrating only one pick down to TOR

All of this is based on what WuTang_OG imagines in his head. None of it is based on facts or proof. All of it is quite nonsensical tbh. We have no say in who'll be available at 4, but we probably want Mobley and draft whoever falls.


It actually makes sense especially when the Cavs dont know what theyre doing. Everything I've provided is a legit argument as to why they would pick someone other than Mobley (Allen there, Sexton trade). Not far fetched. Cavs are the wild card here. Nice try though.
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Post#399 » by LofJ » Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:36 pm

The Cavs are definitely a wildcard. They're Charlie from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia in organizational form.

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Post#400 » by Marcus » Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:54 pm

LofJ wrote:The Cavs are definitely a wildcard. They're Charlie from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia in organizational form.

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loving the reference lol.

I'll put this in the HoF if they say screw it and go Jalen Johnson lol
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