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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#61 » by Dat2U » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:05 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:considering where he's projected, it's a homerun imo outside the lottery or even the back end of it.


He didn't shoot well in College but still averaged 20+ points, he'll get better. Everything else is exactly what you want in a PG. I bet he shoots a lot less in the NBA with all the Talent around him % will go up


His passing is off the chart, court vision and IQ off the chart. He'll be top 5 in assits for most of his career.


I completely agree. Best on-ball creator in a loaded class. I think he's a lock to be a steal. If his shot becomes reliable the upside is all-star caliber.
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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#62 » by Colbinii » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:08 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:yes, 5'11" point guards are all the rage. He is a late 1st talent at best. There isn't a scenario where he becomes a high level starting PG in the NBA.


Correct. He is a very bad defender--his instincts are average but his effort hasn't been good and nothing about his size, build or mental framework defensively says he will ever be better than negative.
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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#63 » by Stillwater » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:13 pm

Thor says hi... I agree he will slide some for the shooting but has starter potential given the handles and potential as a floor general. the fact he isnt just 6' helps his stock some too
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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#64 » by clyde21 » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:28 pm

his court vision is pretty damn elite already, will be one of the best lob passers in the NBA day 1.

will come down to his shot obviously...but the makings are there for him to be a long term starter potentially.
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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#65 » by The-Power » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:29 pm

Stillwater wrote:the fact he isnt just 6' helps his stock some too

He isn't?
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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#66 » by Marcus » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:49 pm

nolang1 wrote:Yes, he will be a very good offensive player if his shot comes around. There is already a thread about Cooper here: https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2040594&p=92002988&hilit=sharife+cooper#p92002988


correct, and thank you sir.

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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#67 » by Stillwater » Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:04 am

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Stillwater wrote:the fact he isnt just 6' helps his stock some too

He isn't?

My bad I see the NBA.com anthro feed has corrected their error. They had him listed as 6'3 in shoes in the days following the combine but now show him as not even getting tested.
He was definitely considered too short to be a lottery pick pre combine so I thought if he was bigger than 6' it helped him some. Turns out he is probably as expected around 5'9 or worse. He is basically just too small no matter how well he can pass to be more than a back up table setter without improving his ability to get clean looks and at that height good luck.
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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#68 » by God Squad » Fri Jul 16, 2021 7:14 am

Stillwater wrote:
The-Power wrote:
Stillwater wrote:the fact he isnt just 6' helps his stock some too

He isn't?

My bad I see the NBA.com anthro feed has corrected their error. They had him listed as 6'3 in shoes in the days following the combine but now show him as not even getting tested.
He was definitely considered too short to be a lottery pick pre combine so I thought if he was bigger than 6' it helped him some. Turns out he is probably as expected around 5'9 or worse. He is basically just too small no matter how well he can pass to be more than a back up table setter without improving his ability to get clean looks and at that height good luck.

Yeah it was a typo. If Cooper was 6'3 he'd be a lotto talent, maybe even top 5.
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Re: Sharife Cooper - Auburn 

Post#69 » by karkinos » Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:01 pm

sharife cooper's ability to draw fouls is underrated and is one of the reasons i have a lot of faith in his ability to become a starter pg in this league.
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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#70 » by DroseReturnChi » Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:02 pm

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NotMyKawhi wrote:considering where he's projected, it's a homerun imo outside the lottery or even the back end of it.


He didn't shoot well in College but still averaged 20+ points, he'll get better. Everything else is exactly what you want in a PG. I bet he shoots a lot less in the NBA with all the Talent around him % will go up


His passing is off the chart, court vision and IQ off the chart. He'll be top 5 in assits for most of his career.


I completely agree. Best on-ball creator in a loaded class. I think he's a lock to be a steal. If his shot becomes reliable the upside is all-star caliber.


he is pretty much poor man's trae young. everyone trashed but he is all nba 1st team talent.
cooper has everything except the 3 ball. with his ft%, he will easily avg 36% on trae's attempt dont see him being liability.
high floor 6th man to robust ceiling perennial borderline all star. this draft is deep very similar vibes to 2020 i would be glad to walk with ayo and him rather than a crappy kuminga. actually contenders should be glad he shot 20% from 3 to get a steal.
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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#71 » by DroseReturnChi » Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:08 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:yes, 5'11" point guards are all the rage. He is a late 1st talent at best. There isn't a scenario where he becomes a high level starting PG in the NBA.


if he is 5'11 i agree ceiling is lower. but if he is legit 6'1 similar as Trae thats more than enough. The league isnt that tough where midgets cant take 5 hits per game and go to the line. He has inner Trae/Rose to live at the rim and put pressure as well as being a top 10 distributor.
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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#72 » by NotMyKawhi » Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:08 pm

DroseReturnChi wrote:
BostonCouchGM wrote:yes, 5'11" point guards are all the rage. He is a late 1st talent at best. There isn't a scenario where he becomes a high level starting PG in the NBA.


if he is 5'11 i agree ceiling is lower. but if he is legit 6'1 similar as Trae thats more than enough. The league isnt that tough where midgets cant take 5 hits per game and go to the line. He has inner Trae/Rose to live at the rim and put pressure as well as being a top 10 distributor.


I think he's lowry's height, chris pauls height. He'll be fine if he can learn to shoot
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Re: Sharife Cooper - Auburn 

Post#73 » by SeattleJazzFan » Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:48 pm

he shouldn't be compared to young. cooper can't shoot and he has poor mechanics which will make it hard to improve and he has trouble getting his shot off.

a 5'11" guard who shoots 22% from three. yikes. not sure i'd draft him anywhere in the 2nd round. and i loved watching this dude at auburn - i'm a huge fan, but damn. has far too much to overcome to waste a pick anywhere above #45 for him. after that, sure take a chance, the guy you'd pick instead probably won't pan out either.
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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#74 » by Saints14 » Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:37 pm

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Dat2U wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:considering where he's projected, it's a homerun imo outside the lottery or even the back end of it.


He didn't shoot well in College but still averaged 20+ points, he'll get better. Everything else is exactly what you want in a PG. I bet he shoots a lot less in the NBA with all the Talent around him % will go up


His passing is off the chart, court vision and IQ off the chart. He'll be top 5 in assits for most of his career.


I completely agree. Best on-ball creator in a loaded class. I think he's a lock to be a steal. If his shot becomes reliable the upside is all-star caliber.


he is pretty much poor man's trae young. everyone trashed but he is all nba 1st team talent.
cooper has everything except the 3 ball. with his ft%, he will easily avg 36% on trae's attempt dont see him being liability.
high floor 6th man to robust ceiling perennial borderline all star. this draft is deep very similar vibes to 2020 i would be glad to walk with ayo and him rather than a crappy kuminga. actually contenders should be glad he shot 20% from 3 to get a steal.



How valuable is a poor man's Trae though? The main knock against him was that with his archetype he'd have to pretty much hit his best case scenario for him to not be somewhat of a liability in the playoffs. If Trae was a little worse (sub-elite offense, bigger liability on defense) I'm not sure that's a guy I'd want starting for me in May.

Trae Young turned out to be good enough that you build a roster around him to cover his weaknesses. If Cooper isn't good enough for that I wouldn't feel comfortable drafting him to be much more than a backup PG that can play in certain lineups. It's just a tough market for "pure" PGs these days, if you can only play with the ball in your hands you better be really damn good at it
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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#75 » by EMG518 » Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:43 pm

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The-Power wrote:
Stillwater wrote:the fact he isnt just 6' helps his stock some too

He isn't?

My bad I see the NBA.com anthro feed has corrected their error. They had him listed as 6'3 in shoes in the days following the combine but now show him as not even getting tested.
He was definitely considered too short to be a lottery pick pre combine so I thought if he was bigger than 6' it helped him some. Turns out he is probably as expected around 5'9 or worse. He is basically just too small no matter how well he can pass to be more than a back up table setter without improving his ability to get clean looks and at that height good luck.


You ever see him play? He is clearly taller than 6 and has said himself 6'2"
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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#76 » by The-Power » Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:59 pm

EMG518 wrote:You ever see him play? He is clearly taller than 6 and has said himself 6'2"

Sure, and what reason would he have to lie about his height after refusing to be measured, and right before he is about to make millions in a sport in which size is incredibly important. Do you have any evidence that he is ‘clearly taller’ than 6 feet?
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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#77 » by Stillwater » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:16 pm

EMG518 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:
The-Power wrote:He isn't?

My bad I see the NBA.com anthro feed has corrected their error. They had him listed as 6'3 in shoes in the days following the combine but now show him as not even getting tested.
He was definitely considered too short to be a lottery pick pre combine so I thought if he was bigger than 6' it helped him some. Turns out he is probably as expected around 5'9 or worse. He is basically just too small no matter how well he can pass to be more than a back up table setter without improving his ability to get clean looks and at that height good luck.


You ever see him play? He is clearly taller than 6 and has said himself 6'2"

Yeah and I always thought he was the smallest player in the gym by a pretty wide margin until his hair grew... but people at that age often are still growing and he might have. I think the fact he didnt do the anthro or A/T at the combine screams nothing new to report that is positive. He must have a late first promise though if in fact he is taller than he used to be
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Re: Sharife Cooper - Auburn 

Post#78 » by MotownMadness » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:25 pm

He's clearly very talented but I always wondered when watching him if you would almost have to dedicate your roster around him. He seems crazy ball dominant when you watch him.
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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#79 » by EMG518 » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:31 pm

The-Power wrote:
EMG518 wrote:You ever see him play? He is clearly taller than 6 and has said himself 6'2"

Sure, and what reason would he have to lie about his height after refusing to be measured, and right before he is about to make millions in a sport in which size is incredibly important. Do you have any evidence that he is ‘clearly taller’ than 6 feet?


Yeah, go watch a game where he is playing against someone whom was measured at the combine. It's obvious. Playing against guys who measured over 6'3 in shoes and the difference is negligible.
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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#80 » by The-Power » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:35 pm

EMG518 wrote:
The-Power wrote:
EMG518 wrote:You ever see him play? He is clearly taller than 6 and has said himself 6'2"

Sure, and what reason would he have to lie about his height after refusing to be measured, and right before he is about to make millions in a sport in which size is incredibly important. Do you have any evidence that he is ‘clearly taller’ than 6 feet?


Yeah, go watch a game where he is playing against someone whom was measured at the combine. It's obvious. Playing against guys who measured over 6'3 in shoes and the difference is negligible.

So you have nothing.

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