Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor

[rammagen]

SGA and pick # 6 for Sexton and #3

OKC then trades Sexton next year for another #1 of some kind

I think they want to move to the #1 pick hence the SGA rumors. At the 3 the cavs can get suggs then move on from sexton for the picks the night of the draft. The key is what happens at the 2.

I can see the sexton trade but why would the cavs move down then have to max out a player in a yr when they can get suggs under control for 5 yrs without having to max him out. Move on from sexton and get picks plus a young player they dont have to max out. There is a salary game going on here that needs to be kept in mind with these trades.

The Knicks have 3 picks plus a swap available plus Knox and maybe Obi or Quick but I see the Knicks wanting to keep Obi and Quickly (Salary reasons)and moving on from Knox who wont be a max player but may ask for more money. I think the Knicks will up to the late lottery for a player (who is the question, this management team is very tight lipped) is my bet or trade the picks for Sexton and Knox the night of the draft.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/nba-free-agency-draft-rumors-bulls-big-spenders
"I asked five sources for a team in the first round most likely to move up, and they all said the Knicks. The Knicks have picks No. 19 and 21, along with two second-rounders and an extra top-ten protected pick in 2023 (from Dallas). Multiple sources said there’s a player in the low teens that they have targeted, but no one’s sure who it is. 1 day ago – via Matt Moore @ Action Network"

I'd love to see the Knicks use 2021 #19,21,32,58 and that 2023 Mavs pick to:

Trade for Sexton
Move up for a player in the low teens
Somehow still have 1 pick left over for a cheap role player - though I obviously care less about this 3rd step if first 2 happen

I think the Knicks 2nd rounders for developmental players might be what they do. might play overseas if they fall like either
Ariel Hukporti or Roko Prkacin I would like it to be Vrenz Bleijenbergh. Either young with a skill set that translates. Vrenz is just a tall good shooter that can handle the ball decently.
VRENZ BLEIJENBERGH, GUARD, Belgium

6’11”, 220 pounds, (7’0” wingspan at least), 20 years old, Brasschaat, Belgium
Last season with Antwerp Giants (EuroCup) - 23.9 minutes per game, 9.4 points per game, 43.4% from the field, 37.5% on threes, 52.6% from the free throw line, 3.1 rebounds per game, 2.4 assists per game

[thebuzzardman]

I think they want to move to the #1 pick hence the SGA rumors. At the 3 the cavs can get suggs then move on from sexton for the picks the night of the draft. The key is what happens at the 2.

I can see the sexton trade but why would the cavs move down then have to max out a player in a yr when they can get suggs under control for 5 yrs without having to max him out. Move on from sexton and get picks plus a young player they dont have to max out. There is a salary game going on here that needs to be kept in mind with these trades.

The Knicks have 3 picks plus a swap available plus Knox and maybe Obi or Quick but I see the Knicks wanting to keep Obi and Quickly (Salary reasons)and moving on from Knox who wont be a max player but may ask for more money. I think the Knicks will up to the late lottery for a player (who is the question, this management team is very tight lipped) is my bet or trade the picks for Sexton and Knox the night of the draft.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/nba-free-agency-draft-rumors-bulls-big-spenders
"I asked five sources for a team in the first round most likely to move up, and they all said the Knicks. The Knicks have picks No. 19 and 21, along with two second-rounders and an extra top-ten protected pick in 2023 (from Dallas). Multiple sources said there’s a player in the low teens that they have targeted, but no one’s sure who it is. 1 day ago – via Matt Moore @ Action Network"

I'd love to see the Knicks use 2021 #19,21,32,58 and that 2023 Mavs pick to:

Trade for Sexton
Move up for a player in the low teens
Somehow still have 1 pick left over for a cheap role player - though I obviously care less about this 3rd step if first 2 happen

I think the 2nd rounders for developmental players that might play overseas if they fall like either
Ariel Hukporti or Roko Prkacin I would like it to be Vrenz Bleijenbergh

If a team drafts a player but stashes them they don't count against the cap, do they?
That would be a Brock Aller-ish kind of thing to do, maintaining assets that don't cost but provide future flexibility.

[RHODEY]

If people have problem paying sexton they're going to lose there mind when RJ is up for extension demanding tatum type contract while playing like bullock.

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RJ helped us get 4th seed... he's already a proven winner. That said I have no problem paying Sexton. He's only 22 and will be easily flipable for the next disgruntled blue chipper.

Or he may just shore up his flaws under Thibs and be worth it....

[rammagen]

I'd love to see the Knicks use 2021 #19,21,32,58 and that 2023 Mavs pick to:

Trade for Sexton
Move up for a player in the low teens
Somehow still have 1 pick left over for a cheap role player - though I obviously care less about this 3rd step if first 2 happen

I think the 2nd rounders for developmental players that might play overseas if they fall like either
Ariel Hukporti or Roko Prkacin I would like it to be Vrenz Bleijenbergh

If a team drafts a player but stashes them they don't count against the cap, do they?
That would be a Brock Aller-ish kind of thing to do, maintaining assets that don't cost but provide future flexibility.

No they dont count against the cap. the NBA team holds their rights till they come to the NBA if they ever come to the NBA, and the they can be traded. They have a salary slot for the where they were picked and will come to the NBA at that salary at that point in time that salary counts against the cap.

[Appleshampoo]

SGA and pick # 6 for Sexton and #3

OKC then trades Sexton next year for another #1 of some kind

It seems highly likely OKC trades SGA and 6 to move up when reading the tea leaves.

It's certainly the reason he was mentioned as "available"

They have quite a few young players.
They have 3 first round picks in this draft and 3 second round picks
Technically, they could draft all of them, but is it likely?
Without looking it up, I know OKC probably has roughly 3.5 picks a year for the next 4 or 5 years.
They will be making trades.

Also, with some cap space and a bunch of picks, I see OKC getting involved in facilitating trades for other teams (this year) and accruing even more assets.

Something has got to give. Eventually they'll overpay with picks to move up.

They could help by trading for Ben Simmons.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ygpw7jdz

OKC and CAV swap 3 and 6. OKC gives picks to 76ers.

[god shammgod]

Damn for real? What was the final straw?

Clues can be found in the RJ Barrett thread, even though the actual posts have been deleted.

[DaGawd]

Clues can be found in the RJ Barrett thread, even though the actual posts have been deleted.

[Knicksfan1992]

You see nothing good about the core, yet losing Randle is a disaster. That's kind of humorous.

I mean, of course they should capture some assets if he's going, but that would mean taking some salary back.


Anyway, essentially what you are saying is, RJ, Randle, IQ and Mitch are ass, so Knicks should just tear it all down and tank, since there isn't any path to competing with them.

I mean, take away Sexton, who would form such a sh*t core, and you are left with Randle and RJ and IQ, and since they aren't compelling, Knicks should just do the OKC and trade everyone for picks. You know. If anyone will have them.

Spoiler:

There are several things I really like about the core. I just don't trust Thibs to be the guy who will lead this franchise to significant playoff success, and I don't like the pairing of RJ and Randle, who I believe put a ceiling on this team when paired together due to their inefficiency and their inability to get easy baskets. I don't trust that we'll see significant playoff success at any point with this duo, let alone under this coach. Also there's a difference between how I personally value Randle and his perceived value around the league. Losing Randle for nothing would be a disaster because he has value around the league, and because he has value period. I never said he wasn't any good. He and RJ just don't fit, especially playing alongside a rim protector. And I'm a proponent of acting early instead of making a decision only once their respective values have dwindled.

I'd still make the Sexton move if:
I didn't believe in the Randle & RJ pairing
I didn't believe in Thibs

Why?
First off, I'd rather the deal not include Obi, even if I don't think Obi is that great, because he may yet still improve as an asset. He won't lose THAT much value in another season and might gain some. Also, he's a cheap PF on the roster if the team moves away from Randle. So, my HOPE is that Knicks are able to get Sexton for 19,32 and Knox.

Moving on, still trade for Sexton as Knicks get a year to try out a good young guard which raises their asset base
Sexton might wind up getting signed by the Knicks, but they would still have the $ to add a top tier player like LaVine or Beal to Randle\RJ\Sexton\Mitch\IQ
IF Randle and RJ aren't a good fit, but the team has already added a Beal or Lavine, Knicks are still positioned to deal Randle or RJ for a better fitting player.
Sexton is actually also an example of acting and acting early.

What Thibs can and can't deliver as a head coach I'd address after another 2 seasons, where either Kenny Payne or Johnny Bryant gets made head coach.

My gut feeling is Thibs is going to coach for 3 seasons total, get "promoted" into the FO and Johnny Bryant will become head coach.

There's really no downside risk in acquiring Sexton IMO. I think the only risk you inherit is if Obi proves to be a really good stretch 4/5 who can finish well as well. Kinda like John Collins. Does it hurt? Yes, but in theory you already have that position covered with a better asset in Randle. Even though, i'm high on Obi I can understand the FO moving him for something now because at best as long as Mitch and Randle are around and don't regress he'll get at most 20 mpg.

If the 19th or 21st pick ends up being a star then so be it, I'd rather take my chances that Sexton develops into one than anyone at that spot because he's shown at the very least he can efficiently score at the NBA level before the age of 23. History backs that idea up with what is generally the outcome of those picks.

Also, the cap benefits of acquiring Sexton if he becomes legit are fantastic for us specifically given what we have on our balance sheet. Basically we al kinda resigned ourselves to having to spend big on PG this summer or wait out a draft prospect to develop... Getting Sexton on a rookie deal still is the ultimate middle ground solution for us. Established baseline improvement on an important position with some upside on a cheaper salary. Opens the door for a lot of options either this summer or next. It's the ideal "team on the rise" scenario IMO. You make sight improvements without locking yourself in too quickly. If Sexton doesn't work out or the team regresses you can recoup some value in a sign and trade or trade him mid season and start fresh. If he does work out then great you found your solution at one of the guard spots for the next half decade and look way more attractive to Beal and Lavine next offseason or whomever ends up disgruntled and wants out

[thebuzzardman]

I think the 2nd rounders for developmental players that might play overseas if they fall like either
Ariel Hukporti or Roko Prkacin I would like it to be Vrenz Bleijenbergh

If a team drafts a player but stashes them they don't count against the cap, do they?
That would be a Brock Aller-ish kind of thing to do, maintaining assets that don't cost but provide future flexibility.

No they dont count against the cap. the NBA team holds their rights till they come to the NBA if they ever come to the NBA, and the they can be traded. They have a salary slot for the where they were picked and will come to the NBA at that salary at that point in time that salary counts against the cap.

Here's another question, since this is an active topic. It's somewhat off topic.

I see Frank mentioned in several scenarios:
Outright cut - not pick up his rights - cap space available
Knicks resign but only after not invoking his bird rights/take a cap hit. Meaning, the Knicks resign Frank to an Austin Rivers like dea.
Knicks sign & trade Frank.

It's the last one that has me curious when people state that, and stated it after this year's deadline passed.
So, the question(s) is as follows:

Part A
I know the Knicks could resign Frank before they quit his rights. That means he's an $18 million cap hit. Even if he was signed for...let's pretend 7 million. For the Knicks trade and cap purposes, what the implications of signing Frank while they still hold his rights and THEN trade him. Is there still an 18 million cap hold, even if they traded 7 million Frank for 7 million "player X"? Would they cap hold disappear the moment he was trades?

Part B
Are the Knicks even allowed to drop Franks rights and avoid the cap hold and then resign him and THEN trade him? I know the Knicks can get away from the cap hold by letting Frank go completely UFA and then sign him as if he is any other player, but then there is a timing issue about when he can then get traded, correct? I'm just assuming the CBA has some mechanism to avoid totally screwing a player\salary cap chicanery, though in this instance it wouldn't seem to be either.

[thebuzzardman]

It seems highly likely OKC trades SGA and 6 to move up when reading the tea leaves.

It's certainly the reason he was mentioned as "available"

They have quite a few young players.
They have 3 first round picks in this draft and 3 second round picks
Technically, they could draft all of them, but is it likely?
Without looking it up, I know OKC probably has roughly 3.5 picks a year for the next 4 or 5 years.
They will be making trades.

Also, with some cap space and a bunch of picks, I see OKC getting involved in facilitating trades for other teams (this year) and accruing even more assets.

Something has got to give. Eventually they'll overpay with picks to move up.

They could help by trading for Ben Simmons.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ygpw7jdz

OKC and CAV swap 3 and 6. OKC gives picks to 76ers.

Good call about the 76'ers being a team OKC might get involved with, even if it's to help Simmons go somewhere besides OKC.

[rammagen]

If a team drafts a player but stashes them they don't count against the cap, do they?
That would be a Brock Aller-ish kind of thing to do, maintaining assets that don't cost but provide future flexibility.

No they dont count against the cap. the NBA team holds their rights till they come to the NBA if they ever come to the NBA, and the they can be traded. They have a salary slot for the where they were picked and will come to the NBA at that salary at that point in time that salary counts against the cap.

Here's another question, since this is an active topic. It's somewhat off topic.

I see Frank mentioned in several scenarios:
Outright cut - not pick up his rights - cap space available
Knicks resign but only after not invoking his bird rights/take a cap hit. Meaning, the Knicks resign Frank to an Austin Rivers like dea.
Knicks sign & trade Frank.

It's the last one that has me curious when people state that, and stated it after this year's deadline passed.
So, the question(s) is as follows:

Part A
I know the Knicks could resign Frank before they quit his rights. That means he's an $18 million cap hit. Even if he was signed for...let's pretend 7 million. For the Knicks trade and cap purposes, what the implications of signing Frank while they still hold his rights and THEN trade him. Is there still an 18 million cap hold, even if they traded 7 million Frank for 7 million "player X"? Would they cap hold disappear the moment he was trades?

Part B
Are the Knicks even allowed to drop Franks rights and avoid the cap hold and then resign him and THEN trade him? I know the Knicks can get away from the cap hold by letting Frank go completely UFA and then sign him as if he is any other player, but then there is a timing issue about when he can then get traded, correct? I'm just assuming the CBA has some mechanism to avoid totally screwing a player\salary cap chicanery, though in this instance it wouldn't seem to be either.

The Knicks have the space so they can (the not part was a typo) option him and and then sign him. the thing is if you option him trade him and he is cut you can not resign him for a period of time(not sure what that period is). The question if you wave the option will another team offer him 7million (which is his option price for the yr). You risk loosing him for nothing.
I would rather have the cap space for a player like Bullock or use that to resign Randle who contributes more.

Here is a list of potential stash players for you
https://www.basketballnews.com/stories/potential-2021-nba-draft-and-stash-options-pro-basketball-prospects

[thebuzzardman]

No they dont count against the cap. the NBA team holds their rights till they come to the NBA if they ever come to the NBA, and the they can be traded. They have a salary slot for the where they were picked and will come to the NBA at that salary at that point in time that salary counts against the cap.

Here's another question, since this is an active topic. It's somewhat off topic.

I see Frank mentioned in several scenarios:
Outright cut - not pick up his rights - cap space available
Knicks resign but only after not invoking his bird rights/take a cap hit. Meaning, the Knicks resign Frank to an Austin Rivers like dea.
Knicks sign & trade Frank.

It's the last one that has me curious when people state that, and stated it after this year's deadline passed.
So, the question(s) is as follows:

Part A
I know the Knicks could resign Frank before they quit his rights. That means he's an $18 million cap hit. Even if he was signed for...let's pretend 7 million. For the Knicks trade and cap purposes, what the implications of signing Frank while they still hold his rights and THEN trade him. Is there still an 18 million cap hold, even if they traded 7 million Frank for 7 million "player X"? Would they cap hold disappear the moment he was trades?

Part B
Are the Knicks even allowed to drop Franks rights and avoid the cap hold and then resign him and THEN trade him? I know the Knicks can get away from the cap hold by letting Frank go completely UFA and then sign him as if he is any other player, but then there is a timing issue about when he can then get traded, correct? I'm just assuming the CBA has some mechanism to avoid totally screwing a player\salary cap chicanery, though in this instance it wouldn't seem to be either.

The Knicks have the space so they can not option him and and then sign him. the thing is if you option him trade him and he is cut you can not resign him for a period of time(not sure what that period is). The question if you wave the option will another team offer him 7million (which is his option price for the yr). You risk loosing him for nothing.
I would rather have the cap space for a player like Bullock or use that to resign Randle who contributes more.

Here is a list of potential stash players for you
https://www.basketballnews.com/stories/potential-2021-nba-draft-and-stash-options-pro-basketball-prospects

This didn't answer my question though.

If the Knicks pick up his option, he's an 18 million cap hit. I think we can agree they are NOT doing that.

So, the only path I see to Frank staying on the Knicks (a very slim chance) is the Knicks to risk another team signing him, then beating that offer and Knicks sign Frank for 7 million (theoretical scenario)

So, my questions revolve around 2 things
Does "Knicks pick up Frank's option" create an $18 million cap hold hole, no matter what they pay Frank OR trade him for
and
Can't the Knicks not pick up Frank's option, then get lucky and sign him for 7 million and no 18 million cap hold, then TRADE Frank after that? I'd think not, as I figure the CBA has some kind of nominal player protection in it.


I'm bringing it up since I still see "S&T Frank" occasionally raised and I wonder if people are considering there may be either cap repercussions to that that are no good, or that doing it in a more cap friendly way isn't allowed under the CBA. Or it is. I don't know.

[Richard4444]

Here's another question, since this is an active topic. It's somewhat off topic.

I see Frank mentioned in several scenarios:
Outright cut - not pick up his rights - cap space available
Knicks resign but only after not invoking his bird rights/take a cap hit. Meaning, the Knicks resign Frank to an Austin Rivers like dea.
Knicks sign & trade Frank.

It's the last one that has me curious when people state that, and stated it after this year's deadline passed.
So, the question(s) is as follows:

Part A
I know the Knicks could resign Frank before they quit his rights. That means he's an $18 million cap hit. Even if he was signed for...let's pretend 7 million. For the Knicks trade and cap purposes, what the implications of signing Frank while they still hold his rights and THEN trade him. Is there still an 18 million cap hold, even if they traded 7 million Frank for 7 million "player X"? Would they cap hold disappear the moment he was trades?

Part B
Are the Knicks even allowed to drop Franks rights and avoid the cap hold and then resign him and THEN trade him? I know the Knicks can get away from the cap hold by letting Frank go completely UFA and then sign him as if he is any other player, but then there is a timing issue about when he can then get traded, correct? I'm just assuming the CBA has some mechanism to avoid totally screwing a player\salary cap chicanery, though in this instance it wouldn't seem to be either.

The Knicks have the space so they can not option him and and then sign him. the thing is if you option him trade him and he is cut you can not resign him for a period of time(not sure what that period is). The question if you wave the option will another team offer him 7million (which is his option price for the yr). You risk loosing him for nothing.
I would rather have the cap space for a player like Bullock or use that to resign Randle who contributes more.

Here is a list of potential stash players for you
https://www.basketballnews.com/stories/potential-2021-nba-draft-and-stash-options-pro-basketball-prospects

This didn't answer my question though.

If the Knicks pick up his option, he's an 18 million cap hit. I think we can agree they are NOT doing that.

So, the only path I see to Frank staying on the Knicks (a very slim chance) is the Knicks to risk another team signing him, then beating that offer and Knicks sign Frank for 7 million (theoretical scenario)

So, my questions revolve around 2 things
Does "Knicks pick up Frank's option" create an $18 million cap hold hole, no matter what they pay Frank OR trade him for
and
Can't the Knicks not pick up Frank's option, then get lucky and sign him for 7 million and no 18 million cap hold, then TRADE Frank after that? I'd think not, as I figure the CBA has some kind of nominal player protection in it.


I'm bringing it up since I still see "S&T Frank" occasionally raised and I wonder if people are considering there may be either cap repercussions to that that are no good, or that doing it in a more cap friendly way isn't allowed under the CBA. Or it is. I don't know.

Regarding Frank, we have 2 options:

1) Keep his 18M Cap Hold and offering him a 7M QO. This way, we can match any offer or sign and trade him in the Free Agency.

2) Waive his Cap Hold and making him a UFA. We would not have any rights over him.

I don't think he is a sign-and-trade target. His salary will be in the range of the MLE (5 to 9 M). Capped teams will not need a sign-and-trade deal to get him.

[rammagen]

Here's another question, since this is an active topic. It's somewhat off topic.

I see Frank mentioned in several scenarios:
Outright cut - not pick up his rights - cap space available
Knicks resign but only after not invoking his bird rights/take a cap hit. Meaning, the Knicks resign Frank to an Austin Rivers like dea.
Knicks sign & trade Frank.

It's the last one that has me curious when people state that, and stated it after this year's deadline passed.
So, the question(s) is as follows:

Part A
I know the Knicks could resign Frank before they quit his rights. That means he's an $18 million cap hit. Even if he was signed for...let's pretend 7 million. For the Knicks trade and cap purposes, what the implications of signing Frank while they still hold his rights and THEN trade him. Is there still an 18 million cap hold, even if they traded 7 million Frank for 7 million "player X"? Would they cap hold disappear the moment he was trades?

Part B
Are the Knicks even allowed to drop Franks rights and avoid the cap hold and then resign him and THEN trade him? I know the Knicks can get away from the cap hold by letting Frank go completely UFA and then sign him as if he is any other player, but then there is a timing issue about when he can then get traded, correct? I'm just assuming the CBA has some mechanism to avoid totally screwing a player\salary cap chicanery, though in this instance it wouldn't seem to be either.

The Knicks have the space so they can not option him and and then sign him. the thing is if you option him trade him and he is cut you can not resign him for a period of time(not sure what that period is). The question if you wave the option will another team offer him 7million (which is his option price for the yr). You risk loosing him for nothing.
I would rather have the cap space for a player like Bullock or use that to resign Randle who contributes more.

Here is a list of potential stash players for you
https://www.basketballnews.com/stories/potential-2021-nba-draft-and-stash-options-pro-basketball-prospects

This didn't answer my question though.

If the Knicks pick up his option, he's an 18 million cap hit. I think we can agree they are NOT doing that.

So, the only path I see to Frank staying on the Knicks (a very slim chance) is the Knicks to risk another team signing him, then beating that offer and Knicks sign Frank for 7 million (theoretical scenario)

So, my questions revolve around 2 things
Does "Knicks pick up Frank's option" create an $18 million cap hold hole, no matter what they pay Frank OR trade him for
and
Can't the Knicks not pick up Frank's option, then get lucky and sign him for 7 million and no 18 million cap hold, then TRADE Frank after that? I'd think not, as I figure the CBA has some kind of nominal player protection in it.


I'm bringing it up since I still see "S&T Frank" occasionally raised and I wonder if people are considering there may be either cap repercussions to that that are no good, or that doing it in a more cap friendly way isn't allowed under the CBA. Or it is. I don't know.

two different items and there was a typo in my post as well.
Option is 7 million his supposed cap hold is 18 million but they wont sign him to that (that is what he is expected to sign him at. So let's say they option frank and then sign him to 7 million his actually cap is 7 million dollars. to figure a cap hold they dont bring the players stats or anything else in just his expected salary...this explains it better. But no if they release/dont option frank they get his salary back, not 18 million he never made that from the Knicks
ii. Restricted Free Agents

First Round Picks

Restricted free agents also have cap holds, but their value is determined by multiple factors. For first round picks that play through their rookie scale contract, their cap holds are: (i) 250% of their prior salary for players who make less than the average NBA salary or (ii) 200% of their prior salary for players who make more than the average NBA salary. If, however, the player signs an offer sheet with another team, their cap hold will increase to the first year salary provided for in that offer sheet.

https://moorebasketball.com/2016/04/22/how-it-works-calculating-a-teams-cap-space/#:~:text=II.%20Cap%20Holds%20Cap%20holds%20are%20a%20tool,rookie%20cap%20holds%2C%20and%20incomplete%20roster%20cap%20holds.

[Fat Kat]

Knox 19 & 32

[Kampuchea]

If people have problem paying sexton they're going to lose there mind when RJ is up for extension demanding tatum type contract while playing like bullock.

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RJ helped us get 4th seed... he's already a proven winner. That said I have no problem paying Sexton. He's only 22 and will be easily flipable for the next disgruntled blue chipper.

Or he may just shore up his flaws under Thibs and be worth it....

I prefer RJ over Sexton. Not sure how you can see Bullock as his future, RJ already had a better season than Bullock has had in his entire career.

[John Murdoch]

When you realize the Knicks are not smart enough to make a move for Nickeil Alexander-Walker over Sexton.

Bring Hart over from the Pels with NAW.

Yall will love Josh plays hard af

[newyorker4ever]

Sexton is a clear upgrade over all 3 and can be part of the future. Y’all some hoarders some of y’all lol

Sexton is a clear upgrade over a kid we saw for 8 minutes a game and two 1st round picks that we have zero idea of what they become? ...Ummmmmmm alrighty then.

Yep. Averaging 24 ppg in his 3rd year on really solid percentages.. he has a clear path to being an offensive star in the league on his current trajectory

[DaGawd]

Sexton is a clear upgrade over a kid we saw for 8 minutes a game and two 1st round picks that we have zero idea of what they become? ...Ummmmmmm alrighty then.

Yep. Averaging 24 ppg in his 3rd year on really solid percentages.. he has a clear path to being an offensive star in the league on his current trajectory

[prophet_of_rage]

When you realize the Knicks are not smart enough to make a move for Nickeil Alexander-Walker over Sexton.

Bring Hart over from the Pels with NAW.

Yall will love Josh plays hard af

An sg that gets double digit rebounds regularly. I love Josh Hart. He is a super sub.

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