Fantasy Trade Thread

[PhillyNj]

Ben never requested a trade or said he was unhappy.

He requested a trade when he refused to shoot in the fourth quarter of several playoff games.

[ProcessDoctor]

Trade 1:

CLE out: Sexton, Prince, Nance Jr, 2022 FRP
CLE in: Simmons

PHI out: Simmons, Curry, 2023 & 2027 FRPs
PHI in: Beal, Bertans

WSH out: Beal, Bertans
WSH in: Sexton, Prince, Nance Jr, Curry, 2022 CLE FRP, 2023 & 2027 PHI FRPs


Trade 2:

GSW out: Green + Wiseman + #14
GSW in: Siakam

PHI out: Harris
PHI in: Lowry (S&T) + Green

TOR out: Lowry (S&T) + Siakam
TOR in: Harris + Wiseman + #14


Final Roster:

Lowry/Maxey/Hill
Beal/Milton/Joe
Thybulle/FA/#28
Green/Reed/Tolliver
Embiid/Howard/#50

[PhillyNj]

Sacramento:
Give:
Hield and Haliburton and 2 future first.
Receive:
Simmons
Kings get the best all around defender in the nba.

Sixers give:
Simmons
Get:
Haliburton and Hield plus 2 FRP

Sixers get a true point guard who can shoot and cheap for the next 4 years. Plus Hield who is a decent to volume shooter.
Works on trade machine.

[youngcrev]

Off-season:

Big Trade:
DAL: Kleber, Powell, Richardson for Tobias Harris
OKC: Kemba, 18 for Powell, Richardson, 28
PHI: Tobias for Kemba, Kleber, 18

Mavs get Harris while operating as an over the cap team to retain THJ and be able use the MLE (Nerlens?)

OKC immediately flips Kemba for better value than they gave up.

Sixers get a shot creator, a stretch big and pick for Tobias, and somehow it doesn't feel like they're stealing from the other teams in the process.

Draft:
[Insert your favorite prospect at 18]

Free Agency:
Tax payer MLE: Rudy Gay
Re-sign Danny Green

Kemba Walker | Tyrese Maxey | George Hill
Seth Curry | Shake Milton | Isaiah Joe
Danny Green | Matisse Thybulle
Ben Simmons | Rudy Gay
Joel Embiid | Maxi Kleber | Paul Reed

[MoeGreene]

That's creative. I like some of this. I am a bit wary of Kemba at this point though. Would love an upgrade at SF too.

Off-season:


Free Agency:
Tax payer MLE: Rudy Gay
Re-sign Danny Green

Kemba Walker | Tyrese Maxey | George Hill
Seth Curry | Shake Milton | Isaiah Joe
Danny Green | Matisse Thybulle
Ben Simmons | Rudy Gay
Joel Embiid | Maxi Kleber | Paul Reed

[ProcessDoctor]

PHI out: Simmons, Harris, Milton, 2023 & 2027 FRPs
PHI in: Lowry (S&T 3-year, $66 mil), Beal, Barnes

SAC out: Haliburton, Hield, Barnes, Bagley, #9, 2023 FRP
SAC in: Simmons, Harris, Milton

TOR out: Lowry (S&T)
TOR in: Bagley

WSH out: Beal
WSH in: Hield, Haliburton, #9, 2023 SAC FRP, 2023 & 2027 PHI FRPs


Lowry/Maxey/Hill
Beal/Curry/Joe
Thybulle/FA/#28
Barnes/Reed/Tolliver
Embiid/Howard/#50

[SparksFly87]

Sign and Trade Danny Green 12 mil and Hills 10 expiring for Lowry 3 years for 70 mil.

Draft Trey Murphy.


Lowry/ Maxey
Shake / Curry/ Joe
Tobias / Thybulle
Simmons / Murphy 28th pick/Reed
Joel / Dwight resigned

[youngcrev]

Sign and Trade Danny Green 12 mil and Hills 10 expiring for Lowry 3 years for 70 mil.

Draft Trey Murphy.


Lowry/ Maxey
Shake / Curry/ Joe
Tobias / Thybulle
Simmons / Murphy 28th pick/Reed
Joel / Dwight resigned

Can't, hard cap (plus Toronto would want some actual value back)

[youngcrev]

That's creative. I like some of this. I am a bit wary of Kemba at this point though. Would love an upgrade at SF too.

Off-season:


Free Agency:
Tax payer MLE: Rudy Gay
Re-sign Danny Green

Kemba Walker | Tyrese Maxey | George Hill
Seth Curry | Shake Milton | Isaiah Joe
Danny Green | Matisse Thybulle
Ben Simmons | Rudy Gay
Joel Embiid | Maxi Kleber | Paul Reed

Kemba is obviously an injury risk, though I think he's a better player than Tobias when he's on the floor, has one less year on his deal, and fills a greater need on the roster as currently constructed.

If Simmons deals won't yield a star, and you can't get someone like CJ or work a Lowry S&T somehow in a Tobias deal, I think he's the next logical guy to look at, particularly if you can gain some type of asset in the process. I might actually even prefer it to those other options since assets might have to go the other way in a CJ swap and things get complicated with the hard cap in a S&T.

If things hit with Kemba, you'd really have something. If not, he's movable as an expiring contract the next year, and you remodel for the hundredth time.

[SparksFly87]

Moving Tobias for a scoring /creating guard threat is priority.

[zaz102]

Two trades that I think make sense for all teams involved. Interested to see what everyone else thinks.

76ers trade: Simmons/Maxey/Thybulle/1 1st
76ers get: Lillard/Covington/RHJ

Blazers trade: Lillard/Covington/RHJ/Elleby
Blazers get: Maxey/Thybulle/Beasley/Rubio/3 MIN 1sts/1 PHI 1st

T-Wolves trade: Beasley/Rubio/3 1sts
T-Wolves get: Simmons/Elleby

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76ers trade: Simmons/Maxey/Thybulle/1 1st
76ers get: Lillard/Covington/RHJ

Blazers trade: Lillard/Covington/RHJ/Elleby/Blevins
Blazers get: Maxey/Thybulle/Hield/Haliburton/Bagley/2 SAC 1sts/1 PHI 1st

Kings trade: Hield/Haliburton/Bagley/2 1sts
Kings get: Simmons/Elleby/Blevins

[ankle420breaker]

I could see Morey using the Horford $8M TE to acquire some depth (someone like Osman or Delon Wright).

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[Roy The Natural]

Two trades that I think make sense for all teams involved. Interested to see what everyone else thinks.

76ers trade: Simmons/Maxey/Thybulle/1 1st
76ers get: Lillard/Covington/RHJ

Blazers trade: Lillard/Covington/RHJ/Elleby
Blazers get: Maxey/Thybulle/Beasley/Rubio/3 MIN 1sts/1 PHI 1st

T-Wolves trade: Beasley/Rubio/3 1sts
T-Wolves get: Simmons/Elleby

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76ers trade: Simmons/Maxey/Thybulle/1 1st
76ers get: Lillard/Covington/RHJ

Blazers trade: Lillard/Covington/RHJ/Elleby/Blevins
Blazers get: Maxey/Thybulle/Hield/Haliburton/Bagley/2 SAC 1sts/1 PHI 1st

Kings trade: Hield/Haliburton/Bagley/2 1sts
Kings get: Simmons/Elleby/Blevins

Hard pass from Portland on trade 1... Honestly steaming garbage for them.

[yuuby]

Two trades that I think make sense for all teams involved. Interested to see what everyone else thinks.

76ers trade: Simmons/Maxey/Thybulle/1 1st
76ers get: Lillard/Covington/RHJ

Blazers trade: Lillard/Covington/RHJ/Elleby
Blazers get: Maxey/Thybulle/Beasley/Rubio/3 MIN 1sts/1 PHI 1st

T-Wolves trade: Beasley/Rubio/3 1sts
T-Wolves get: Simmons/Elleby

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76ers trade: Simmons/Maxey/Thybulle/1 1st
76ers get: Lillard/Covington/RHJ

Blazers trade: Lillard/Covington/RHJ/Elleby/Blevins
Blazers get: Maxey/Thybulle/Hield/Haliburton/Bagley/2 SAC 1sts/1 PHI 1st

Kings trade: Hield/Haliburton/Bagley/2 1sts
Kings get: Simmons/Elleby/Blevins

Hard pass from Portland on trade 1... Honestly steaming garbage for them.

Damian Lillard has 4 years left on his deal yet all they get is bad picks and no star prospect.

Portland will get at least one current young stud plus picks for Dame if he ever gets traded. Not these bad pick packages.

[Roy The Natural]

Two trades that I think make sense for all teams involved. Interested to see what everyone else thinks.

76ers trade: Simmons/Maxey/Thybulle/1 1st
76ers get: Lillard/Covington/RHJ

Blazers trade: Lillard/Covington/RHJ/Elleby
Blazers get: Maxey/Thybulle/Beasley/Rubio/3 MIN 1sts/1 PHI 1st

T-Wolves trade: Beasley/Rubio/3 1sts
T-Wolves get: Simmons/Elleby

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76ers trade: Simmons/Maxey/Thybulle/1 1st
76ers get: Lillard/Covington/RHJ

Blazers trade: Lillard/Covington/RHJ/Elleby/Blevins
Blazers get: Maxey/Thybulle/Hield/Haliburton/Bagley/2 SAC 1sts/1 PHI 1st

Kings trade: Hield/Haliburton/Bagley/2 1sts
Kings get: Simmons/Elleby/Blevins

Hard pass from Portland on trade 1... Honestly steaming garbage for them.

Damian Lillard has 4 years left on his deal yet all they get us **** picks and no star prospect.

Portland will get at least one current young stud plus picks for Dame if he ever getd traded. Not these bad pick packages.

Who's the young stud Portland is getting? Beasley? I'm not seeing it. I like Maxey enough... but calling him a young "stud" if putting the cart before the horse. I'd argue there's as much of a chance that he's Reggie Jackson as a true all-star level player. His jumpshot looks janky and near broken to me. He's a solid but not spectacular finisher and has a nice reliable floater. He could very easily be a top end backup/6th man type guy as much as he could be a "stud." I know that won't go over super well on a 76ers board, but you don't build a trade around a top 10-12 player in the league around a guy like Maxey... and that's essentially your highest upside player in deal 1.

[yuuby]

Hard pass from Portland on trade 1... Honestly steaming garbage for them.

Damian Lillard has 4 years left on his deal yet all they get us **** picks and no star prospect.

Portland will get at least one current young stud plus picks for Dame if he ever getd traded. Not these bad pick packages.

Who's the young stud Portland is getting? Beasley? I'm not seeing it. I like Maxey enough... but calling him a young "stud" if putting the cart before the horse. I'd argue there's as much of a chance that he's Reggie Jackson as a true all-star level player. His jumpshot looks janky and near broken to me. He's a solid but not spectacular finisher and has a nice reliable floater. He could very easily be a top end backup/6th man type guy as much as he could be a "stud." I know that won't go over super well on a 76ers board, but you don't build a trade around a top 10-12 player in the league around a guy like Maxey... and that's essentially your highest upside player in deal 1.

They aren't getting a young stud in the trade proposal above which is my point. The initial spelling in my post and the blanked out ("sh*tty") might have caused confusion.

The trade package is garbage for the Blazers they have no incentive to do it.

Dame to Philly is a pipe dream. We don't have any great assets outside of Embiid and no one wants to trade him.

Simmons and Tobias have two of the worst contracts in the league.

None of these young players on the 76ers have star upside like SGA and probably don't even have starter on a good team upside.

Portland is getting a PG level package with a young stud like SGA and multiple picks plus swaps. None of these proposed Philly trades gives you guys that.

[Roy The Natural]

Damian Lillard has 4 years left on his deal yet all they get us **** picks and no star prospect.

Portland will get at least one current young stud plus picks for Dame if he ever getd traded. Not these bad pick packages.

Who's the young stud Portland is getting? Beasley? I'm not seeing it. I like Maxey enough... but calling him a young "stud" if putting the cart before the horse. I'd argue there's as much of a chance that he's Reggie Jackson as a true all-star level player. His jumpshot looks janky and near broken to me. He's a solid but not spectacular finisher and has a nice reliable floater. He could very easily be a top end backup/6th man type guy as much as he could be a "stud." I know that won't go over super well on a 76ers board, but you don't build a trade around a top 10-12 player in the league around a guy like Maxey... and that's essentially your highest upside player in deal 1.

They aren't getting a young stud in the trade proposal above which is my point. The initial spelling in my post and the blanked out ("sh*tty") might have caused confusion.

The trade package is garbage for the Blazers they have no incentive to do it.

Dame to Philly is a pipe dream. We don't have any great assets outside of Embiid and no one wants to trade him.

Simmons and Tobias have two of the worst contracts in the league.

None of these young players on the 76ers have star upside like SGA and probably don't even have starter on a good team upside.

Portland is getting a PG level package with a young stud like SGA and multiple picks plus swaps. None of these proposed Philly trades gives you guys that.

Welll... as an outside, I think you're being a bit hyperbolic... However, I agree with the general premise that the 76ers don't really have what the Blazers want in a Lillard trade. I think Simmons to Portland is a non-starter in a Lillard trade. More than anything it's simply just a lack of cohesion in team direction. I don't think Portland is interested in trading Lillard and receiving a Wal-Mart Giannis as the primary piece. Simmons has done everything he can over the past couple years to prove he's a tertiary piece and not a primary one.

If another team were to value Simmons in a manner that could effectively grease the wheels for Portland I think there is something to be had there. However, I wonder what Simmons actual value is at this point, and I wonder how robust the actual market is. We keep hearing that a bunch of teams are interested in Simmons, and then we keep hearing about teams offering Brogdon... or Heild... or other pretty bad pieces plus some picks. I haven't heard or seen a single leak of a Simmons deal that nears the value that you would have assumed Simmons had 2 years ago. To go from these offers to Simmons+slightly above average prospects and picks equals superstar just seems a bridge too far for me. But I'm not the leader of the Simmons fanclub. I think he's a really good player who's an ELITE tertiary piece, but a mediocre at best primary one. He's the guy you want to add to your stars in the right situation, not the guy you want to be your star.

Basically... I wouldn't trade Lillard for Brogdon and Indy 1st.. Maxey and 2 Philly 1sts... so why would I take the Philly deals? I don't know what value Simmons has, but quite simply, non of us really do at this point. We just hear there is interest and then see pretty objectively crappy deals being floated.

[sixers4real]

I would much rather have Tobias Harris then Kemba Walker

[76ciology]

Dame to Philly is not a pipe dream.

1.) Value wise, it’s not impossible that Ben will decline and Dame will improve to that point that their gap widens. It’s likely that Dame will drop and Ben stays flat or improve that the gap should be closer
2.) if Blazers want assets, we can find a 3rd or maybe 4th team and make it a larger trade involving Maxey, Thybulle and Tobi. It doesnt have to be a straight up Ben for Dame trade.
3.)looking at cycles, blazers is maxed out. There’s no place to go but down. So rebuilding is not necessarily a bad option for them.

P.S. they f’d up when they traded for Roco.

[Roy The Natural]

Dame to Philly is not a pipe dream.

1.) Value wise, it’s not impossible that Ben will decline and Dame will improve to that point that their gap widens. It’s likely that Dame will drop and Ben stays flat or improve that the gap should be closer
2.) if Blazers want assets, we can find a 3rd or maybe 4th team and make it a larger trade involving Maxey, Thybulle and Tobi. It doesnt have to be a straight up Ben for Dame trade.
3.)looking at cycles, blazers is maxed out. There’s no place to go but down. So rebuilding is not necessarily a bad option for them.

P.S. they f’d up when they traded for Roco.

Just saw a report on Blazersedge that Pelicans and Blazers have engaged and Pelicans are willing to do Ingram plus picks... That makes things much harder for Philly IMO... I believe that Ingram>>Simmons and Pelicans have a lot of picks. Ingram and Picks is probably vastly more interesting then most 76ers packages depending on amount of picks.