SNPA wrote:Marcus wrote:
It’s not crazy to take him first.
not at all. personally think he's the better fit for the Pistons.
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SNPA wrote:Marcus wrote:
It’s not crazy to take him first.
Marcus wrote:SNPA wrote:Marcus wrote:
It’s not crazy to take him first.
not at all. personally think he's the better fit for the Pistons.
SNPA wrote:Marcus wrote:SNPA wrote:It’s not crazy to take him first.
not at all. personally think he's the better fit for the Pistons.
They should ask Houston for everything. All of it. See what they say.
Marcus wrote:SNPA wrote:Marcus wrote:
not at all. personally think he's the better fit for the Pistons.
They should ask Houston for everything. All of it. See what they say.
don't know what they'd take back from Houston right now though that would open up taking Jalen vice just drafting him first outright.
I'd try to get KPJ and a pick swap. live with the two lefties in the back court and take Mobes with the second pick. But that's my crazy thinking at work.
buzzkilloton wrote:https://deanondraft.com/2021/07/19/lets-talk-about-all-of-the-little-sgs/comment-page-1/#comment-27286
Dean had some interesting points about Green. He noticed that Kuminga is listed at 6'6 but in pics looks 2 inches taller. Also noticed his teammate Nix looks the same height and is listed at 6'4.
Height Length Weight
Jalen Green 6’4.75 6’8 180
Devin Booker 6’5.75 6’8.25 206
Zach LaVine 6’5.75 6’8.25 181
Bradley Beal 6’4.75″ 6’8 202
I've said this before but Green is built like these guys not the MJs,Kobe, D.Wades of the world.
I still like Green but his upside is surely capped by being such a small guy. I think hes clearly under Mobley and neck and neck with Suggs for who should be pick 3 to 4 in the draft. Sam V just did his draft guide and had alot of questions about his defense on there as well maybe at a later time I'll copy paste some of it for discussion.
DCasey91 wrote:buzzkilloton wrote:https://deanondraft.com/2021/07/19/lets-talk-about-all-of-the-little-sgs/comment-page-1/#comment-27286
Dean had some interesting points about Green. He noticed that Kuminga is listed at 6'6 but in pics looks 2 inches taller. Also noticed his teammate Nix looks the same height and is listed at 6'4.
Height Length Weight
Jalen Green 6’4.75 6’8 180
Devin Booker 6’5.75 6’8.25 206
Zach LaVine 6’5.75 6’8.25 181
Bradley Beal 6’4.75″ 6’8 202
I've said this before but Green is built like these guys not the MJs,Kobe, D.Wades of the world.
I still like Green but his upside is surely capped by being such a small guy.
MJ/Kobe/Wade size
DCasey91 wrote:ThatboyNick
Greens wingspan caps him which I’m a okay with.
ThatBoyNick wrote:DCasey91 wrote:ThatboyNick
Greens wingspan caps him which I’m a okay with.
Caps him at what though lol
Booker/LaVine/Beal/Green all have the same wingspan, you got the SG in the finals, the league scorer, LaVine who averaged 27 this season, to throw a random player in who plays much bigger, Butler too.
How big a player plays is a combination of a lot of things. Overall, Green's size won't stop him from being dominant. Clearly, as we see from Steph, Lillard, Iverson, you can be a small scorer and dominant
Other things can cap him, like his handle, his shot, decision making etc, we just have to wait and see what he is
DCasey91 wrote:
From MJ/Kobe comps I get the other ones though.
See earlier posts I have with Green or Mobley as number one. I side with Mobley initially and recently but it switches up daily lol. Both are very minimal on the negative critiquing even if there’s some blindness to it. They haven’t moved from my list of favs and were the first ones on there.
I’m one of the biggest fans of Green fwiw.
ThatBoyNick wrote:DCasey91 wrote:
From MJ/Kobe comps I get the other ones though.
See earlier posts I have with Green or Mobley as number one. I side with Mobley initially and recently but it switches up daily lol. Both are very minimal on the negative critiquing even if there’s some blindness to it. They haven’t moved from my list of favs and were the first ones on there.
I’m one of the biggest fans of Green fwiw.
I'd pick Suggs over both
Cade
Suggs
Green
Mobley
is my top 4 order
ThatBoyNick wrote:DCasey91 wrote:buzzkilloton wrote:https://deanondraft.com/2021/07/19/lets-talk-about-all-of-the-little-sgs/comment-page-1/#comment-27286
Dean had some interesting points about Green. He noticed that Kuminga is listed at 6'6 but in pics looks 2 inches taller. Also noticed his teammate Nix looks the same height and is listed at 6'4.
Height Length Weight
Jalen Green 6’4.75 6’8 180
Devin Booker 6’5.75 6’8.25 206
Zach LaVine 6’5.75 6’8.25 181
Bradley Beal 6’4.75″ 6’8 202
I've said this before but Green is built like these guys not the MJs,Kobe, D.Wades of the world.
I still like Green but his upside is surely capped by being such a small guy.
MJ/Kobe/Wade size
Hold on
Bradley Beal is 6'3.25, LaVine is 6'4.5, Booker is 6'4.5
Green was measured at 6'6 barefoot by the G-league this year, and 6'4 barefoot w/ a 6'7.5 wingspan at 16.5 years old which was taken in 2018 by team USA
where are you getting Jalen Green being measured at 6'4.75? Are you making that up cause I can't find it anywhere
Kobe was 195 as a rookie, MJ was 195 in college, both are under 6'5 without shoes
Like, there are many things to talk about when it comes to size, strength, athleticism, and I'm not saying Green is the same type of athlete as Kobe/MJ... But my dude you can't list everybody's heights wrong by listing them with shoes, and then using a barefoot listing of Green when he was 16.5 or one that your making up
It's possible Green hasn't grown since 16, it's possible his heights all messed up from his afros, I have no idea
As for Wade, he is way different than everybody else that dude was 6'3.75 220+ of pure muscle and freak athleticism on wide shoulders
DCasey91 wrote:
Can’t hate on Suggs at all (no more obvious ones on my list lol that would be too safe and boring).
If I had to bet one player from this draft that would be on a championship team my money is on Suggs.
Also if he gets enough usage could be the go for ROY.
ThatBoyNick wrote:DCasey91 wrote:buzzkilloton wrote:https://deanondraft.com/2021/07/19/lets-talk-about-all-of-the-little-sgs/comment-page-1/#comment-27286
Dean had some interesting points about Green. He noticed that Kuminga is listed at 6'6 but in pics looks 2 inches taller. Also noticed his teammate Nix looks the same height and is listed at 6'4.
Height Length Weight
Jalen Green 6’4.75 6’8 180
Devin Booker 6’5.75 6’8.25 206
Zach LaVine 6’5.75 6’8.25 181
Bradley Beal 6’4.75″ 6’8 202
I've said this before but Green is built like these guys not the MJs,Kobe, D.Wades of the world.
I still like Green but his upside is surely capped by being such a small guy.
MJ/Kobe/Wade size
Hold on
Bradley Beal is 6'3.25, LaVine is 6'4.5, Booker is 6'4.5
Green was measured at 6'6 barefoot by the G-league this year, and 6'4 barefoot w/ a 6'7.5 wingspan at 16.5 years old which was taken in 2018 by team USA
where are you getting Jalen Green being measured at 6'4.75? Are you making that up cause I can't find it anywhere
Kobe was 195 as a rookie, MJ was 195 in college, both are under 6'5 without shoes
Like, there are many things to talk about when it comes to size, strength, athleticism, and I'm not saying Green is the same type of athlete as Kobe/MJ... But my dude you can't list everybody's heights wrong by listing them with shoes, and then using a barefoot listing of Green when he was 16.5 or one that your making up
It's possible Green hasn't grown since 16, it's possible his heights all messed up from his afros, I have no idea
As for Wade, he is way different than everybody else that dude was 6'3.75 220+ of pure muscle and freak athleticism on wide shoulders
ThatBoyNick wrote:DCasey91 wrote:
Can’t hate on Suggs at all (no more obvious ones on my list lol that would be too safe and boring).
If I had to bet one player from this draft that would be on a championship team my money is on Suggs.
Also if he gets enough usage could be the go for ROY.
After watching Harden for nearly a decade it's a little bit hard for me to get excited about the skinny boys
I like me a superstar that can put his defender on their ass, Cade and Suggs both have that strength to move people
I really hate guessing heights based on pictures of dudes at different angles, different lengths away from the camera and different poses thing that people do. This picture doesn't do muchThe Moose wrote:ThatBoyNick wrote:DCasey91 wrote:
MJ/Kobe/Wade size
Hold on
Bradley Beal is 6'3.25, LaVine is 6'4.5, Booker is 6'4.5
Green was measured at 6'6 barefoot by the G-league this year, and 6'4 barefoot w/ a 6'7.5 wingspan at 16.5 years old which was taken in 2018 by team USA
where are you getting Jalen Green being measured at 6'4.75? Are you making that up cause I can't find it anywhere
Kobe was 195 as a rookie, MJ was 195 in college, both are under 6'5 without shoes
Like, there are many things to talk about when it comes to size, strength, athleticism, and I'm not saying Green is the same type of athlete as Kobe/MJ... But my dude you can't list everybody's heights wrong by listing them with shoes, and then using a barefoot listing of Green when he was 16.5 or one that your making up
It's possible Green hasn't grown since 16, it's possible his heights all messed up from his afros, I have no idea
As for Wade, he is way different than everybody else that dude was 6'3.75 220+ of pure muscle and freak athleticism on wide shoulders
I don’t think there is any way he is 6’6 barefoot
This article shows some good pics of him next to Nix who measured 6’4.25 in shoes, 6’3 barefoot
https://deanondraft.com/2021/07/19/lets-talk-about-all-of-the-little-sgs/
That’s not 3 inches different
He doesn’t have the length or height of Kobe/MJ/Wade/Carter. I’m not sure if he’s ever going to be able to make much of a defensive impact
And i'm not so sure he will be much of a playmaker either. There is a strong possibility that he will be very one dimensional, albeit he could be pretty elite in that one dimension.Zombiesonics wrote:He is the size of booker beal and lavine. it takes all of 5 minutes from watching him play to tell he isn't the size of kobe or vince. his size is already priced in my opinion of him, he can still be an electric offensive centerpiece like the first guys I mentioned. Two way upside is not there though.
Zombiesonics wrote:He is the size of booker beal and lavine. it takes all of 5 minutes from watching him play to tell he isn't the size of kobe or vince. his size is already priced in my opinion of him, he can still be an electric offensive centerpiece like the first guys I mentioned. Two way upside is not there though.
Duke4life831 wrote:Zombiesonics wrote:He is the size of booker beal and lavine. it takes all of 5 minutes from watching him play to tell he isn't the size of kobe or vince. his size is already priced in my opinion of him, he can still be an electric offensive centerpiece like the first guys I mentioned. Two way upside is not there though.
According to this
https://www.thehoopsgeek.com/average-nba-height/
The average height for a 2 guard was 6'4. Just look at someone like Donte DiVincenzo, he is a damn good defender at the 2 spot and he is 6'4 with a 6'6 wingspan. No way Green is any smaller than he is.
Dont get me wrong Im not saying Green is going to be some super stud defensive player, but I dont think size will hold him back defensively.