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Post#421 » by Marcus » Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:29 am

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Likely is 50/50 that Cavs take him as their guy. Going to re-up Allen, not really a fit there with Mobley. They'll go after Suggs or do a swap with ORL/TOR to move back.

Teams arent duplicating at the top end of the draft especially when they have a stud center ready to be re-upped (which reports show they are).

Also the Sexton rumours, add to my argument it will be Suggs.

This is is moreso what will happen no bias here.. it just makes too much sense. They arent rolling Allen and Mobley together. They are both 5's. This is a stacked draft. Suggs, Barnes, all options and better fits here.

Stop listening to the media lol


survey some cavs fans on whether it makes too much sense to pass on Mobley because of Allen, I think you'll get a different answer. Actually there is a few of them in the last few posts in this thread


As I've said, if they take Mobley it's not 90%. It's 50/50 based on their current situation and reasons I've brought forth. They dont want to take him. Their home run pick was Green but it seems hes going to HOU. My guess is they do a swap with Tor/ORL and get either Suggs or Barnes who are better fits.


How do you see Suggs and Garland pairing?
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#422 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:40 am

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WuTang_OG wrote:
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survey some cavs fans on whether it makes too much sense to pass on Mobley because of Allen, I think you'll get a different answer. Actually there is a few of them in the last few posts in this thread


As I've said, if they take Mobley it's not 90%. It's 50/50 based on their current situation and reasons I've brought forth. They dont want to take him. Their home run pick was Green but it seems hes going to HOU. My guess is they do a swap with Tor/ORL and get either Suggs or Barnes who are better fits.


How do you see Suggs and Garland pairing?


Elite young backcourt. Love Garland's game and Suggs looks like he has the makings of a true lead guard that can also play alongside another talented guard.. especially when his 3pt shot improves. Both high iq's. Makes total sense.

Move Sexton for assets on draft night.. likely to MIA or NY and see what you can squeeze out.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#423 » by The Moose » Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:44 am

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Likely is 50/50 that Cavs take him as their guy. Going to re-up Allen, not really a fit there with Mobley. They'll go after Suggs or do a swap with ORL/TOR to move back.

Teams arent duplicating at the top end of the draft especially when they have a stud center ready to be re-upped (which reports show they are).

Also the Sexton rumours, add to my argument it will be Suggs.

This is is moreso what will happen no bias here.. it just makes too much sense. They arent rolling Allen and Mobley together. They are both 5's. This is a stacked draft. Suggs, Barnes, all options and better fits here.

Stop listening to the media lol


survey some cavs fans on whether it makes too much sense to pass on Mobley because of Allen, I think you'll get a different answer. Actually there is a few of them in the last few posts in this thread


As I've said, if they take Mobley it's not 90%. It's 50/50 based on their current situation and reasons I've brought forth. They dont want to take him. Their home run pick was Green but it seems hes going to HOU. My guess is they do a swap with Tor/ORL and get either Suggs or Barnes who are better fits.


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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#424 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:51 am

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WuTang_OG wrote:
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survey some cavs fans on whether it makes too much sense to pass on Mobley because of Allen, I think you'll get a different answer. Actually there is a few of them in the last few posts in this thread


As I've said, if they take Mobley it's not 90%. It's 50/50 based on their current situation and reasons I've brought forth. They dont want to take him. Their home run pick was Green but it seems hes going to HOU. My guess is they do a swap with Tor/ORL and get either Suggs or Barnes who are better fits.


You have no way of knowing this really


Sure but it's pretty obvious. He's considered to be a dynamic offensive weapon on the wing with elite athleticism and thats their most glaring hole. They have Garland, Okoro and Allen as their core (I'm assuming the Sexton trade rumours indicate they arent crazy about him). That's likely their #1 target..
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Post#425 » by Duke4life831 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:21 am

Wait are there some saying Cleveland should pass on Mobley because of Allen?

If that thought process even enters the mind of a GM, he should be fired and never allowed near a front office again.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#426 » by clyde21 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:27 am

Duke4life831 wrote:Wait are there some saying Cleveland should pass on Mobley because of Allen?

If that thought process even enters the mind of a GM, he should be fired and never allowed near a front office again.


yes...because he wants Mobley to drop to 4 so he's doing some telekinesis speak it into existence voodoo magic even tho it doesn't make any sense
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#427 » by Duke4life831 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:30 am

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Duke4life831 wrote:Wait are there some saying Cleveland should pass on Mobley because of Allen?

If that thought process even enters the mind of a GM, he should be fired and never allowed near a front office again.


yes...because he wants Mobley to drop to 4 so he's doing some telekinesis speak it into existence voodoo magic even tho it doesn't make any sense


Ya there is no way Mobley doesn’t go top 3. If he does, then Cleveland were idiots to not just trade down and draft whoever they wanted.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#428 » by clyde21 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:32 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
The Moose wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Likely is 50/50 that Cavs take him as their guy. Going to re-up Allen, not really a fit there with Mobley. They'll go after Suggs or do a swap with ORL/TOR to move back.

Teams arent duplicating at the top end of the draft especially when they have a stud center ready to be re-upped (which reports show they are).

Also the Sexton rumours, add to my argument it will be Suggs.

This is is moreso what will happen no bias here.. it just makes too much sense. They arent rolling Allen and Mobley together. They are both 5's. This is a stacked draft. Suggs, Barnes, all options and better fits here.

Stop listening to the media lol


survey some cavs fans on whether it makes too much sense to pass on Mobley because of Allen, I think you'll get a different answer. Actually there is a few of them in the last few posts in this thread


As I've said, if they take Mobley it's not 90%. It's 50/50 based on their current situation and reasons I've brought forth. They dont want to take him. Their home run pick was Green but it seems hes going to HOU. My guess is they do a swap with Tor/ORL and get either Suggs or Barnes who are better fits.


i'm just doing this for u my man, seems like u finna be really disappointed when this doesn't happen, but it will be a huge upset if Mobley is not a top 3 pick, whether it's by Houston, Cleveland or someone else trading up, Mobley ain't leaving the top 3...it's a lock just like last year's was a lock.

also...you got all Cavs fans here disagreeing with you...so its odd that you seem to think you know what's best for the Cavs more than their fans do.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#429 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:41 am

clyde21 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
The Moose wrote:
survey some cavs fans on whether it makes too much sense to pass on Mobley because of Allen, I think you'll get a different answer. Actually there is a few of them in the last few posts in this thread


As I've said, if they take Mobley it's not 90%. It's 50/50 based on their current situation and reasons I've brought forth. They dont want to take him. Their home run pick was Green but it seems hes going to HOU. My guess is they do a swap with Tor/ORL and get either Suggs or Barnes who are better fits.


i'm just doing this for u my man, seems like u finna be really disappointed when this doesn't happen, but it will be a huge upset if Mobley is not a top 3 pick, whether it's by Houston, Cleveland or someone else trading up, Mobley ain't leaving the top 3...it's a lock just like last year's was a lock.

also...you got all Cavs fans here disagreeing with you...so its odd that you seem to think you know what's best for the Cavs more than their fans do.


Ha I wont be disappointed either way. Super happy with Suggs or Kuminga. I'm just merely stating why this is more of a wild card situation rather than a lock considering what I've suggested. Mobley isnt their #1 choice. They are better off trading Allen on draft night but they arent. Just have a funny feeling Mobley isnt going to the Cavs on draft night.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#430 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:43 am

clyde21 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Wait are there some saying Cleveland should pass on Mobley because of Allen?

If that thought process even enters the mind of a GM, he should be fired and never allowed near a front office again.


yes...because he wants Mobley to drop to 4 so he's doing some telekinesis speak it into existence voodoo magic even tho it doesn't make any sense


Lol makes perfect sense. You just need some better understanding. Teams arent duplicating in the top 5 especially for a centre. Theyll likely trade down or go with Suggs.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#431 » by clyde21 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:50 am

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clyde21 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
As I've said, if they take Mobley it's not 90%. It's 50/50 based on their current situation and reasons I've brought forth. They dont want to take him. Their home run pick was Green but it seems hes going to HOU. My guess is they do a swap with Tor/ORL and get either Suggs or Barnes who are better fits.


i'm just doing this for u my man, seems like u finna be really disappointed when this doesn't happen, but it will be a huge upset if Mobley is not a top 3 pick, whether it's by Houston, Cleveland or someone else trading up, Mobley ain't leaving the top 3...it's a lock just like last year's was a lock.

also...you got all Cavs fans here disagreeing with you...so its odd that you seem to think you know what's best for the Cavs more than their fans do.


Ha I wont be disappointed either way. Super happy with Suggs or Kuminga. I'm just merely stating why this is more of a wild card situation rather than a lock considering what I've suggested. Mobley isnt their #1 choice. They are better off trading Allen on draft night but they arent. Just have a funny feeling Mobley isnt going to the Cavs on draft night.


i mean...if everyone is saying it's not a wildcard except you...then...it's not a wildcard...

can you show me a single mock draft that has Mobley dropping out the top 3?













i can go on and on and on

what are you seeing that literally no one else is seeing?
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#432 » by clyde21 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:51 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Wait are there some saying Cleveland should pass on Mobley because of Allen?

If that thought process even enters the mind of a GM, he should be fired and never allowed near a front office again.


yes...because he wants Mobley to drop to 4 so he's doing some telekinesis speak it into existence voodoo magic even tho it doesn't make any sense


Lol makes perfect sense. You just need some better understanding. Teams arent duplicating in the top 5 especially for a centre. Theyll likely trade down or go with Suggs.


if they trade down the team they are trading with will take Mobley #3...either way he's not dropping out the top 3.

and, again, for the 100th time, Jarrett Allen is not gonna stop the Cavs from selecting the best C prospect since Anthony Davis. you're just being delusional my man...no offense.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#433 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:58 am

clyde21 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
i'm just doing this for u my man, seems like u finna be really disappointed when this doesn't happen, but it will be a huge upset if Mobley is not a top 3 pick, whether it's by Houston, Cleveland or someone else trading up, Mobley ain't leaving the top 3...it's a lock just like last year's was a lock.

also...you got all Cavs fans here disagreeing with you...so its odd that you seem to think you know what's best for the Cavs more than their fans do.


Ha I wont be disappointed either way. Super happy with Suggs or Kuminga. I'm just merely stating why this is more of a wild card situation rather than a lock considering what I've suggested. Mobley isnt their #1 choice. They are better off trading Allen on draft night but they arent. Just have a funny feeling Mobley isnt going to the Cavs on draft night.


i mean...if everyone is saying it's not a wildcard except you...then...it's not a wildcard...

can you show me a single mock draft that has Mobley dropping out the top 3?













i can go on and on and on

what are you seeing that literally no one else is seeing?


Are you not reading what I'm saying lol.

The mocks arent going to show the Cavs trading back which is what I'm saying. If Green is off the board for them, I think there's a 50/50 chance they move back and pick up Suggs rather than 100% certainty as some people may think. For the reasons I've stated, I dont see Mobley going to them on draft night.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#434 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:03 am

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WuTang_OG wrote:
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yes...because he wants Mobley to drop to 4 so he's doing some telekinesis speak it into existence voodoo magic even tho it doesn't make any sense


Lol makes perfect sense. You just need some better understanding. Teams arent duplicating in the top 5 especially for a centre. Theyll likely trade down or go with Suggs.


if they trade down the team they are trading with will take Mobley #3...either way he's not dropping out the top 3.

and, again, for the 100th time, Jarrett Allen is not gonna stop the Cavs from selecting the best C prospect since Anthony Davis. you're just being delusional my man...no offense.


I disagree. You can move past him if you're getting a franchise PG in Suggs while pickin up assets along the way, especially when there's rumours of you wanting to move your PG. I just dont see the fit.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#435 » by clyde21 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:05 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Ha I wont be disappointed either way. Super happy with Suggs or Kuminga. I'm just merely stating why this is more of a wild card situation rather than a lock considering what I've suggested. Mobley isnt their #1 choice. They are better off trading Allen on draft night but they arent. Just have a funny feeling Mobley isnt going to the Cavs on draft night.


i mean...if everyone is saying it's not a wildcard except you...then...it's not a wildcard...

can you show me a single mock draft that has Mobley dropping out the top 3?

i can go on and on and on

what are you seeing that literally no one else is seeing?


Are you not reading what I'm saying lol.

The mocks arent going to show the Cavs trading back which is what I'm saying. If Green is off the board for them, I think there's a 50/50 chance they move back and pick up Suggs rather than 100% certainty as some people may think. For the reasons I've stated, I dont see Mobley going to them on draft night.


the NBC mock has Orlando trading up and taking Mobley #3

again, teams are not gonna trade up for Suggs at 3...if anyone is trading up, it's for Mobley at 3.

and sorry, but the reason you've stated don't make any sense...you have Cavs fans in this very thread telling you that.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#436 » by clyde21 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:07 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Lol makes perfect sense. You just need some better understanding. Teams arent duplicating in the top 5 especially for a centre. Theyll likely trade down or go with Suggs.


if they trade down the team they are trading with will take Mobley #3...either way he's not dropping out the top 3.

and, again, for the 100th time, Jarrett Allen is not gonna stop the Cavs from selecting the best C prospect since Anthony Davis. you're just being delusional my man...no offense.


I disagree. You can move past him if you're getting a franchise PG in Suggs while pickin up assets along the way, especially when there's rumours of you wanting to move your PG. I just dont see the fit.


the Cavs already have their franchise PG in Garland. it's odd that you don't see Mobley but you're talking about them drafting ANOTHER 'franchise PG' when they have Garland are happy with Garland. :-?

and....againnnnnn....Jarrett Allen is a nice player....but he is NOT good enough to pass up on Mobley on under any scenario. they'll take Mobley and trade Allen...it's that simple.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#437 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:08 am

clyde21 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
i mean...if everyone is saying it's not a wildcard except you...then...it's not a wildcard...

can you show me a single mock draft that has Mobley dropping out the top 3?

i can go on and on and on

what are you seeing that literally no one else is seeing?


Are you not reading what I'm saying lol.

The mocks arent going to show the Cavs trading back which is what I'm saying. If Green is off the board for them, I think there's a 50/50 chance they move back and pick up Suggs rather than 100% certainty as some people may think. For the reasons I've stated, I dont see Mobley going to them on draft night.


the NBC mock has Orlando trading up and taking Mobley #3

again, teams are not gonna trade up for Suggs at 3...if anyone is trading up, it's for Mobley at 3.

and sorry, but the reason you've stated don't make any sense...you have Cavs fans in this very thread telling you that.


No, sorry, it makes perfect sense. You're just choosing not to recognize it and haven't responded to any of what I said.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#438 » by clyde21 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:09 am

lmao ok you do you my man, just prepare to be disappointed on draft night.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#439 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:10 am

clyde21 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
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if they trade down the team they are trading with will take Mobley #3...either way he's not dropping out the top 3.

and, again, for the 100th time, Jarrett Allen is not gonna stop the Cavs from selecting the best C prospect since Anthony Davis. you're just being delusional my man...no offense.


I disagree. You can move past him if you're getting a franchise PG in Suggs while pickin up assets along the way, especially when there's rumours of you wanting to move your PG. I just dont see the fit.


the Cavs already have their franchise PG in Garland. it's odd that you don't see Mobley but you're talking about them drafting ANOTHER 'franchise PG' when they have Garland are happy with Garland. :-?

and....againnnnnn....Jarrett Allen is a nice player....but he is NOT good enough to pass up on Mobley on under any scenario. they'll take Mobley and trade Allen...it's that simple.


Nothing odd. Suggs and Garland can play together. There's versatility. It happens on basically every nba team. You cant play 2 centres together in modern nba basketball. No team does that. Thus my argument.

I think you're spun, no offense.
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Re: Evan Mobley - USC 

Post#440 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:10 am

clyde21 wrote:lmao ok you do you my man, just prepare to be disappointed on draft night.


Win win either way lol

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