2021 Packers News, Trades, Transactions - Sternberger Released

[ReasonablySober]

Just trade them both.

But let's keep the eminently replaceable office dudes who are obviously bad at people in a people business.

In what world is pro football people business?

[ReasonablySober]

Packers are entering cut off your nose to spite your face territory though. Mark Murphy is an old ass man. Who retained an obviously demented GM and obviously terrible head coach for like 4 years too long. Blowing apart a contending team to keep that cat around is problematic. More so when you get nothing in return for any of them. Either **** can the “problem” guys or trade Rodger and Davante 3 months ago.

But no one knows if it's Murphy that's the problem. Why? Because Rodgers won't say what his problem is.

Yea, I wouldn't have a problem with the old guy "retiring" either, because who gives a ****? He's not drafting and he's not coaching.

But as for who's blowing apart a contending team, that's the fault of one guy at this point. All Rodgers has to do is report, and he's got a legit contender around him. Star defensive backs, elite pass rushers, top of the league offensive line, pro bowl talent at WR, TE, and RB.

But if he doesn't want to play for Green Bay, and isn't saying WHY, then **** him. Deal him, and from a purely practical standpoint deal Adams too. If he wants to be the highest paid WR, he deserves it, but it also doesn't make sense from a team building perspective either. So get what you can for him too.

[Iheartfootball]

I agree with lots of the posts so far. I don't think it's 'either or' but 'yes, and'.

Have the Packers front office handled this poorly? From all accounts, yes and...(Adams, Rodgers).
Has Rodgers been obtuse and immature? From all accounts, yes and...(twitter, media reports).

This is a people business though, the product are athletes. All humans have egos, emotions, and need attention sometimes. Was it the Packers FO responsibility to take care of AR? Yes, and it's AR's responsibility to take care physically, emotionally, express his needs to them in a professional way.

The problem is we don't have the whole story. If he has done that over and over and nothing was addressed then it's on the Packers and their inability to manage him. I don't know what the full story is here but I'm sure there is blame to go around. I desperately want to blame someone right now because I just want to watch the team succeed and play well and that is sounding less and less likely. It's a bummer to get ready for football and know that it won't be business as usual for the Packers. I hope this isn't the beginning of the end for their success. I remember the 80s and they weren't fun.

[ReasonablySober]

I'm gonna laugh for a week if Rodgers comes back and the Packers end up not having to commit an extra year.

[Profound23]

I agree with lots of the posts so far. I don't think it's 'either or' but 'yes, and'.

Have the Packers front office handled this poorly? From all accounts, yes and...(Adams, Rodgers).
Has Rodgers been obtuse and immature? From all accounts, yes and...(twitter, media reports).

This is a people business though, the product are athletes. All humans have egos, emotions, and need attention sometimes. Was it the Packers FO responsibility to take care of AR? Yes, and it's AR's responsibility to take care physically, emotionally, express his needs to them in a professional way.

The problem is we don't have the whole story. If he has done that over and over and nothing was addressed then it's on the Packers and their inability to manage him. I don't know what the full story is here but I'm sure there is blame to go around. I desperately want to blame someone right now because I just want to watch the team succeed and play well and that is sounding less and less likely. It's a bummer to get ready for football and know that it won't be business as usual for the Packers. I hope this isn't the beginning of the end for their success. I remember the 80s and they weren't fun.

Pretty much......but at the end of the day the best way for longterm success is trading Rodgers for multiple picks. If Adams sides with him and is ready to leave, trade him for multiple picks too. If Julio can net a 2nd/4th while being at the end of his career and oft-injured....Adams should be able to net two firsts from a team like the Raiders.

Holding on to these dudes in hopes of one more year is just not the answer imo. Either way, I hope whatever decision they make it is the right one.

[Kerb Hohl]

I sure as hell am not tied to Mark Murphy but this whole thing is a matter of principle.

Had we let Favre call all of his shots, maybe we get Moss but then you also get no Rodgers most likely.

Not to say Rodgers isn’t right to be more urgent and maybe we’d have canned MM faster or overruled some senile Ted decisions in the 2015-2018 range, but I can guarantee you the teams that let the QB basically be CEO and GM are doomed to fail. Rodgers didn’t really like MLF at first but we made a good hire in spite of it.

If Rodgers was allowed to have free reign we’d be drafting 4 WRs this year once he realized Kumerow wasn’t a good enough WR2.

“Power to the players” is great but only really works in the NBA. If I was a franchise I’d have let Lebron come in and be GM. It’s easy to maneuver cash to get a superstar to play with him and then you can ask him to pick from a list of 5 backup SFs that your personnel guys like. Doesn’t work in the NFL.

If you fire Murphy or Gute for this you basically admit Rodgers is your GM, a job he’d ultimately be 10x worse at.

[Profound23]

Packers fans who aren't Bucks fans I am sorry.....but Packers fans who are Bucks fans have no time for this diva mess.

We just watched a kid move overseas, walk to and from the Bradley Center in the middle of winter for games and practices, without being able to afford a car or winter coat because he was literally sending all of his money to Greece for his family that was almost living on the streets carry us to a title after almost tearing his ACL.

We don't want to sit here and listen to WRs who are being offered 25mil a year complain they aren't being offered 28mil a year because that is what another WR makes......or a QB who wants to whine about losing players like an over the hill Jordy Nelson, a pedestrian Jake Kumerow, or drafting a QB after a year (2019) in which he seemed to have lost a step. Was he MVP last year? YES...he played great. But let's be honest, if we don't draft Love then Rodgers doesn't play with that chip on his shoulder and we might not have even made it to the NFC Championship.

Doesn't mean we support every single decision management has made. This isn't black and white at all.

[PintSizedBox10]

Now Adams is getting thrown under the bus. Packer fans are a fickle group.

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[ReasonablySober]

Like I said, Adams deserves to be the highest paid. I just hope it isn't with Green Bay.

[Kerb Hohl]

Like I said, Adams deserves to be the highest paid. I just hope it isn't with Green Bay.

First caveat is that if we do decide to go all-in for 3 more years on Rodgers/Adams, I don’t think it will end well, but I’ll cheer and not complain because those are very good players.

But I do find this contingent of fans I’m seeing all over my Facebook acting like it’s a nightmare that we may not keep some players into their 30s or 40s (Rodgers) are not thinking this through.

No fan base is immune to it. I’m watching Cubs fans beside themselves that they aren’t spending half a billion dollars on their 3 star position players to lock them up from ages 31-37.

Rodgers may truly be elite until 41…that’s a tough one. But in general, these big moves as players age out of their primes are not going to result in a Super Bowl if we can’t freaking win one with these guys in their primes.

[ReasonablySober]

Like I said, Adams deserves to be the highest paid. I just hope it isn't with Green Bay.

First caveat is that if we do decide to go all-in for 3 more years on Rodgers/Adams, I don’t think it will end well, but I’ll cheer and not complain because those are very good players.

But I do find this contingent of fans I’m seeing all over my Facebook acting like it’s a nightmare that we may not keep some players into their 30s or 40s (Rodgers) are not thinking this through.

No fan base is immune to it. I’m watching Cubs fans beside themselves that they aren’t spending half a billion dollars on their 3 star position players to lock them up from ages 31-37.

Rodgers may truly be elite until 41…that’s a tough one. But in general, these big moves as players age out of their primes are not going to result in a Super Bowl if we can’t freaking win one with these guys in their primes.

If they go all-in, it'll only be for this season. It means you lose a lot of talent starting in '22 if Rodgers and Adams are somehow around. It's why what Rodgers is doing is so insane. If winning a title is a high priority, he has to know Green Bay is easily his best choice this season.

But Rodgers is a smart guy. He's also petty. He knows if he wants out he's nuking the organization's plans for this last opportunity for a ring with the current core.

[ReasonablySober]

Add Z. Smith to those upset:

Going into his third Green Bay season, Smith is disappointed with his Packers contractual status, Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk notes. The Packers exercised an automatic conversion clause in Smith’s deal in March, creating around $8MM in cap space after the team gave Aaron Jones a $12MM-per-year deal. Smith did not realize the implications of this clause, which allowed the Packers to convert base salary to signing bonus money without his go-ahead, per Florio.

The restructure moved money onto next year’s Packers cap sheet, and Smith is now set to carry a $28.1MM cap charge in 2022. That lofty figure increases the likelihood Smith will be a cap casualty or a trade piece, though given Smith’s production and the fact his contract expires after the 2022 season, a Packers extension would seem to be in play as well. However, the soon-to-be 29-year-old rusher is also irked at the Packers for not paying out his new bonus in March, Florio adds. The team will instead pay it in installments throughout the season, making this new structure similar to a base salary.

The Packers made all their moves with the idea that this is the season. The cost of having a talented roster is one day the bill comes, and in '22 it arrives.

[jakecronus8]

It’s so funny to me how all these guys that are so team oriented and love playing the game with each other all get miffed the second it messes with their money.

Not saying they shouldn’t. This is a game that puts your life on the line so get all the money you can. Just don’t be the rah rah guy. Shows your true colors.

I also fully believe that Aaron is in these guys’ ears about Murphy, Gutekunst, etc. The timing of all this makes too much sense.

As this drags on more and more, I’m beginning to believe that you need to maybe just move on. Anyone that doesn’t want to be here or feels “betrayed” despite making a hefty salary from a team that gave them said salary when few others would can move on. Trade them all. Take your bumps and bruises for a year or two but this is LaFleur and BK’s team and make sure they know that.

[midranger]

I’m totally fine with pulling the BandAid and tearing it all down, but then do it already. Get value for these guys and rebuild quickly. Don’t Jack off while all value disappears by the day hoping things will “work out” for a last dance.

If anything, it just highlights the incompetence in the FO. Part of the exit planning from Rodgers had to be the contingency of burning it all to the ground and getting all the picks you could on the way out. It’s like this never occurred to these idiots.

We’re getting the worst of all worlds here.

[Profound23]

Add Z. Smith to those upset:

Going into his third Green Bay season, Smith is disappointed with his Packers contractual status, Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk notes. The Packers exercised an automatic conversion clause in Smith’s deal in March, creating around $8MM in cap space after the team gave Aaron Jones a $12MM-per-year deal. Smith did not realize the implications of this clause, which allowed the Packers to convert base salary to signing bonus money without his go-ahead, per Florio.

The restructure moved money onto next year’s Packers cap sheet, and Smith is now set to carry a $28.1MM cap charge in 2022. That lofty figure increases the likelihood Smith will be a cap casualty or a trade piece, though given Smith’s production and the fact his contract expires after the 2022 season, a Packers extension would seem to be in play as well. However, the soon-to-be 29-year-old rusher is also irked at the Packers for not paying out his new bonus in March, Florio adds. The team will instead pay it in installments throughout the season, making this new structure similar to a base salary.

The Packers made all their moves with the idea that this is the season. The cost of having a talented roster is one day the bill comes, and in '22 it arrives.

Smith's gripe is different than the other two. I fully understand his gripe and hope the Packers fix this.

The other two need to just be honest though. Attempting to act like they are the Chicago Bulls and this is "The Last Dance" is hilarious since Rodgers has choked in NFC Championship games constantly. Acting as though they have each other's backs but we all know if the Packers offered Adams 5 yrs 150 mil but told him "If we do this, we can't keep Rodgers" he signs on the dotted line......and if we traded Love, fired Gute, and offered Rodgers a Mahomes like extension then told him "If we do this, we can't keep Davante" he also signs on the dotted line.

Zmith's agent let him down too.

[jakecronus8]

Packers fans who aren't Bucks fans I am sorry.....but Packers fans who are Bucks fans have no time for this diva mess.

We just watched a kid move overseas, walk to and from the Bradley Center in the middle of winter for games and practices, without being able to afford a car or winter coat because he was literally sending all of his money to Greece for his family that was almost living on the streets carry us to a title after almost tearing his ACL.

We don't want to sit here and listen to WRs who are being offered 25mil a year complain they aren't being offered 28mil a year because that is what another WR makes......or a QB who wants to whine about losing players like an over the hill Jordy Nelson, a pedestrian Jake Kumerow, or drafting a QB after a year (2019) in which he seemed to have lost a step. Was he MVP last year? YES...he played great. But let's be honest, if we don't draft Love then Rodgers doesn't play with that chip on his shoulder and we might not have even made it to the NFC Championship.

Doesn't mean we support every single decision management has made. This isn't black and white at all.

Hallelujah. Giannis is the antithesis of Rodgers in many respects

[ReasonablySober]

Add Z. Smith to those upset:

Going into his third Green Bay season, Smith is disappointed with his Packers contractual status, Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk notes. The Packers exercised an automatic conversion clause in Smith’s deal in March, creating around $8MM in cap space after the team gave Aaron Jones a $12MM-per-year deal. Smith did not realize the implications of this clause, which allowed the Packers to convert base salary to signing bonus money without his go-ahead, per Florio.

The restructure moved money onto next year’s Packers cap sheet, and Smith is now set to carry a $28.1MM cap charge in 2022. That lofty figure increases the likelihood Smith will be a cap casualty or a trade piece, though given Smith’s production and the fact his contract expires after the 2022 season, a Packers extension would seem to be in play as well. However, the soon-to-be 29-year-old rusher is also irked at the Packers for not paying out his new bonus in March, Florio adds. The team will instead pay it in installments throughout the season, making this new structure similar to a base salary.

The Packers made all their moves with the idea that this is the season. The cost of having a talented roster is one day the bill comes, and in '22 it arrives.

Smith's gripe is different than the other two. I fully understand his gripe and hope the Packers fix this.

The other two need to just be honest though. Attempting to act like they are the Chicago Bulls and this is "The Last Dance" is hilarious since Rodgers has choked in NFC Championship games constantly. Acting as though they have each other's backs but we all know if the Packers offered Adams 5 yrs 150 mil but told him "If we do this, we can't keep Rodgers" he signs on the dotted line......and if we traded Love, fired Gute, and offered Rodgers a Mahomes like extension then told him "If we do this, we can't keep Davante" he also signs on the dotted line.

Zmith's agent let him down too.

I agree, but the bolded is the key part here. Be upset with your agent, not the team doing what it can to create cap space.

[stillgotgame]

Wow, Z Smith update too.
Gute is a snake. He’s got the backing of the clueless fans that think next year we’re in big cap trouble.
Except Gute created it.

[ReasonablySober]

Wow, Z Smith update too.
Gute is a snake. He’s got the backing of the clueless fans that think next year we’re in big cap trouble.
Except Gute created it.

Yes. Everyone knows this. Or we could have just not re-signed or extended our key guys the last three years. Would that have been better?

[ReasonablySober]

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