Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread

[knickstape4ever]

I also like the reset option of Randle for Wiseman and two lottery picks

Teams don’t value Randle like that lol

Nah I think the warriors would do it, but he Knicks would have to be crazy to make that trade

We would suck if it wasn’t for Randle. I would hope they would want something back more than #7,#14, and two underperforming players. Two late lottery draft picks for the MIP is not a good trade for a MIP

I think those 2 picks + Wiseman is a very good offer. Wiseman needs time to develop, he's just 20 y/o but he still has a lot of potential

+ at 7 we can get Bouknight and w/ the 3 other picks that would give the Knicks a lot of flexibility. stay put, trade for a player, trade up.

[newyorker4ever]

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[Jimmit79]

I could see Randle #19 for wiggins and wiseman #14 but doubt Knicks will reset especially with Thibs as coach.

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[newyorker4ever]

Myles Turner being tossed around too. Would be nice with Randle and a new guard.

I've been on the trade for M.Turner train for like a month now. I've been saying we should go for players like N.Powell, K.Lowry or maybe even D.Derozan on a short deal or take your shot on one of the RFA guards that we've been linked to or they should trade for one of these guards that are supposedly on the block and put them with J.Randle, RJ and M.Turner. But i'd also be fine if they used their draft picks and kept building next year and just sign vets to 1 year deals and see if we can make something happen with a big name or two in 2022.

[WargamesX]

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[WajaBawl]

I think the best talent that's realistically available to us is Sexton. We'll know closer to the draft whether other teams are involved. Not sure if Miami is ready to part ways with Herro but if not, Knox and 21 should get the deal done. Play hardball and call their bluff if they ask for more, as there's no way they turn down a young wing and first round pick in a loaded draft for nothing.

[WargamesX]

I'm not a huge fan of Randle, But you're overvaluing that package from GSW. Randle had a very good year. 24/10/6 on 45/40/80 and was an MVP candidate. He absolutely has that kind of value.

Which is why you don't trade him if you are trying to build a contender.

its not that simple. you have to take into account the fact that he's about to get paid, and as good as he is, he's not the kind of guy who's going to be the best player on a championship team. 2nd or 3rd best player on a chip contending team? sure. there's a lot of gray when you're trying to build a contender under a salary cap.

I could see them giving him his extension. Trying to bring Lavine or Beal here, if that fails their options are build around RJ (and after KP you don’t want to leave a young prospect like RJ with no help either) or holding onto hope Booker leaves the Suns. It’s a narrow path, but we’ll see.

I still think Lavine or Beal is the 2022 move. Both guys are such walking buckets inserting them (and better PG play) next to Randle makes the team significantly better. RJ as a 3rd option is great too and gives him a structure to develop into his prime when the Knicks might want to rebuild again.

[8516knicks]

I think the best talent that's realistically available to us is Sexton. We'll know closer to the draft whether other teams are involved. Not sure if Miami is ready to part ways with Herro but if not, Knox and 21 should get the deal done. Play hardball and call their bluff if they ask for more, as there's no way they turn down a young wing and first round pick in a loaded draft for nothing.

Not sure what u mean. Knox plus #21 = (0) plus #21 = #21. Are you saying Miami will trade Herro for #21? That's delusional.

[blanko]

I also like the reset option of Randle for Wiseman and two lottery picks

Teams don’t value Randle like that lol

I'm not a huge fan of Randle, But you're overvaluing that package from GSW. Randle had a very good year. 24/10/6 on 45/40/80 and was an MVP candidate. He absolutely has that kind of value.

Gs has green. Can they play together? Or is gs going to trade green?

[Richard4444]

So let's assume for a second that Lowry, Derozen and Dinwiddie do want to be on the Lakers as per the current report. I wonder if we could do something like sign and trade of two of those guys, say Derozen and Lowry for a resigned THT, Kuzma and one year of Schroeder with a team option for the second. Maybe we get a 1st for our troubles or maybe not.

We could then resign Mitch, Rose and Randle if he is keen.

Mitch/Gibson/Jackson
Randle/Toppin/Kuzma/Murphy
Kozma/THT/Murphy/Bullock
RJ/IQ/THT
Rose/Schroder/IQ/Viladoza

If IQ, Toppin and THT pan out - and Kozma regains form - we have young pieces and draft picks to make a trade.

We can only sign and trade players that are in our roster at the end of the previous season.

[Richard4444]

It's pretty imperative we re-sign D Rose. His arrival sparked the team and transformed us from a middling team into a winner. At seasons end we were 24-11 when he played, 17-20 without, and probably 90% of us watch every game, so you know that was no fluke. He straight up carried the team for stretches of multiple games.

The good news is he and Thibs have an obvious rapport and chemistry, so you would assume he stays based on him merely preferring to play for Los Knicks. But yeah, this is kind of an underrated, under-talked about need-to-do offseason transaction.

Am I the only one that doesn't want to give Thibs his favorite toys back? He really is like my toddler at times - I buy this kid better shinier toys but he just wants to play with the damn amazon boxes all day instead.

Not only was Rose one of the better players on our team, he had a tremendous rapport with the rookies. Not sure what’s not to like

We need to try to bring back Rose and Bullock. Noel is a goner. Burks, I don't know.

Rose at the same price range is a steal.

Bullock has a low cap hold (5,5M) and we could give him up to around 10M without count against the cap space.

Noel is a goner. I think his new price range would make him expensive for a backup Center.

Burks should ask for pay around MLE or more in a multiple-year contract. And we need a true wing starting material who can be capable of defending big wings or at least be a consistent scorer.

[Richard4444]

I wonder what the 76ers want for #28? We have an abundance of future seconds and #31 which would allow them to take a player and not be forced to pay them.

I think FRPs are worse for us. It will eat our cap space.

[Richard4444]

I also like the reset option of Randle for Wiseman and two lottery picks

Teams don’t value Randle like that lol

I would think about trade Randle if we get a massive overpay.

But I dunno the Front Office and coach staff will cogitate.

[WargamesX]

I wonder what the 76ers want for #28? We have an abundance of future seconds and #31 which would allow them to take a player and not be forced to pay them.

I think its FRPs are worse to us. It will eat our cap space.

#28 it’s not too much different that what the Knicks would end up paying a player at #32. Mitchell Robinson makes about 100k less a year than what the #28 pick makes and the Knicks negotiated that with him at #36.

The only reason to grab it is to draft before the Suns, Utah, and the Bucks. Which might be a good thing.

[KOA]

I don't think LA has the ability to sign both Derozan and Lowry, but if they want to reunite, that would be as good of a short term option as any for the Knicks.

Lowry / Rose
RJ / IQ
Derozan /Bullock
Randle / Toppin
Mitch / Taj

This would be by far one of the best 2 way rosters in the league.
Forget 1 dimensional players like Beal. There is a reason the Wizards didn't get anywhere with him over the last 9 years. It's always fun having players that can go for 50 on any given night, but I'll take a complete roster over that any day of the week...

[Marty McFly]

Teams don’t value Randle like that lol

I'm not a huge fan of Randle, But you're overvaluing that package from GSW. Randle had a very good year. 24/10/6 on 45/40/80 and was an MVP candidate. He absolutely has that kind of value.

Gs has green. Can they play together? Or is gs going to trade green?

who knows. they also have Thompson and have been rumored to be interested in Beal.

[Marty McFly]

I could see Randle #19 for wiggins and wiseman #14 but doubt Knicks will reset especially with Thibs as coach.

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that's not a great trade for the knicks. its a lateral move.

[br7knicks]

I also like the reset option of Randle for Wiseman and two lottery picks

Teams don’t value Randle like that lol

I would think about trade Randle if we get a massive overpay.

But I dunno the Front Office and coach staff will cogitate.

Unless a team is willing to overpay for randle, I'd rather hold on to him for now.

Wiseman and lottery picks is what it'd take for me.

GSW are looking to win now. Also randle is a plus, as the NBA learned after this last season.

I'm in the rebuild camp. But you don't give up a strong piece for a small package

[br7knicks]

I could see Randle #19 for wiggins and wiseman #14 but doubt Knicks will reset especially with Thibs as coach.

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that's not a great trade for the knicks. its a lateral move.

That might get it done, but the Knicks would be stupid to take that.

GSW want to win now. They need to give up multiple strong pieces. Wiseman is one. Wiggins us not, and that 14th pick isn't good enough.

[Richard4444]

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Please, no more news of players working out and grinding.

Every year the same thing.

Frank will come back more aggressively!!!

Dennis Smith has fixed his jumper!!!

Mitch learned how to shot 3s!!!

Knox will be less useless!!

And nothing.

I want to see them on the court!!!