2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation

[Slim Charless]

If people are worried about a bunch of high priced contracts, we can't go after Siakam. He makes almost $38 million in 23-24. That would probably be like $160+ for 5 guys that year.

I know you and I aren’t worried about Sarvers pockets. Do you think adding Siakam makes us favorites in the west next year? If so then you eat the contract and pay the consequences later. I think he’d be fantastic with us and we’d basically have a roster construction like Milwaukee where nearly everything is invested into the starting 5 and you scrap together whatever you can for the bench. Our championship window is now, I think Sarver recognizes he’ll never be closer as an owner.

As for Beal, the Sixers have been the obvious spot for him for years now. Simmons + Maxey for Beal makes sense for everyone.

Yes, Siakam makes us better. I don't think the Raps will trade him though. He's a pretty young piece of their core and I don't the Cam, Crowder, Saric, etc makes sense. They already have a Bridges type in OG.

I could see them move him to Golden State pretty easily. Not for the insane amount you see Dino fans talking about on the GB and trade forums but Wiseman, Wiggins, the 14th this yr and another next yr make sense for both sides. Allows the Dubs to keep 7 for whoever they think can help the most this yr. Toronto gets some size, a local "legend" and frees them up to draft Barnes at 4, who would fit that roster pretty well.

[thamadkant]

Suns dont really need Siakam.

What Suns need is Jae Crowder growing 3 inches to be 6'9 so he would be able to guard the low post and win rebounds against huge front courts when Ayton is outside the paint.

[thamadkant]

Am I the only one that sees Paul as the one that’s mucking up our future ? Enigs is right. Go ahead and pay him his contract price this year… But from then out, he’s yr to yr at the MLE. It helps put a better team around him… And if he doesn’t like that… we move in the new younger CP.

I’m very leery of last legging vets, especially expensive ones.

He wont agree to that. And too low.

Best is for him to get 50 Million next hear for 1 year. Then 2 year extension of 15 Million each year with bonus of upto 5 million additonal if he plays more than 80% of the games or make the All Stars.

[Saberestar]

Suns dont really need Siakam.

What Suns need is Jae Crowder growing 3 inches to be 6'9 so he would be able to guard the low post and win rebounds against huge front courts when Ayton is outside the paint.

Siakam is a 6'9 with a 7'3 wingspan who is the perfect PF to put next to Ayton (other than Anteto/AD).

Crowder is a good PF but Siakam is on a much higher tier as a player.

I would make an offer to the Raptors and try to get him. He is in his prime and one of the best two-way frontcourt players in the league.

I think that the Raptors will want a high pick in this draft, so we probably are out of the race already...

[thamadkant]

The IDEAL trade IMO...

Raptors / Suns

C. Johnson + Saric + 2021 Suns first pick (29) + 2023 Suns first pick (Unprotected)

for

Kyle Lowry


Then free agent signing...

Suns sign Andre Drummond (Vet Minimum) OR Daniel Theis (Vet Minimum) OR Dwight Howard (Vet Minimum)

Drummond is interesting that if he "buys in" with the system and focus on rebounding and catching lobs only... he would be an absolute bargain considering he is the league's best rebounder and at at prime age.

[thamadkant]

Suns dont really need Siakam.

What Suns need is Jae Crowder growing 3 inches to be 6'9 so he would be able to guard the low post and win rebounds against huge front courts when Ayton is outside the paint.

Siakam is a 6'9 with a 7'3 wingspan who is the perfect PF to put next to Ayton (other than Anteto/AD).

Crowder is a good PF but Siakam is on a much higher tier as a player.

I would make an offer to the Raptors and try to get him. He is in his prime and one of the best two-way frontcourt players in the league.

I think that the Raptors will want a high pick in this draft, so we probably are out of the race already...

Siakam is FINANCIALLY un-feasible without gutting the team who just made the Finals and on the rise.

He's out of the equation because if the Suns are in the market for a 38 Million dollar player a year... then why not go for Anthony Davis or heck Giannis.... 35-38 Million a year budget you can get ANY STAR you want.

[Saberestar]

The IDEAL trade IMO...

Raptors / Suns

C. Johnson + Saric + 2021 Suns first pick (29) + 2023 Suns first pick (Unprotected)

for

Kyle Lowry


Then free agent signing...

Suns sign Andre Drummond (Vet Minimum) OR Daniel Theis (Vet Minimum) OR Dwight Howard (Vet Minimum)

Drummond is interesting that if he "buys in" with the system and focus on rebounding and catching lobs only... he would be an absolute bargain considering he is the league's best rebounder and at at prime age.

Lowry is a FA.

[Saberestar]

Suns dont really need Siakam.

What Suns need is Jae Crowder growing 3 inches to be 6'9 so he would be able to guard the low post and win rebounds against huge front courts when Ayton is outside the paint.

Siakam is a 6'9 with a 7'3 wingspan who is the perfect PF to put next to Ayton (other than Anteto/AD).

Crowder is a good PF but Siakam is on a much higher tier as a player.

I would make an offer to the Raptors and try to get him. He is in his prime and one of the best two-way frontcourt players in the league.

I think that the Raptors will want a high pick in this draft, so we probably are out of the race already...

Siakam is FINANCIALLY un-feasible without gutting the team who just made the Finals and on the rise.

He's out of the equation because if the Suns are in the market for a 38 Million dollar player a year... then why not go for Anthony Davis or heck Giannis.... 35-38 Million a year budget you can get ANY STAR you want.

No you can not. You can only trade for who is available.

Simmons, Beal and Siakam look available now. I would pass on Simmons, but I would try to get Beal or Siakam if the price is right.

[Saberestar]

Read on Twitter

He would be a nice option as a backup C with Saric out.

How much he will get in FA? I think he probably gets the full MLE.

[bwgood77]

Siakam for Simmons might make some sense if they are ready to go with Maxey at PG. Though the backcourt would be pretty small....though I guess with Thybulle there they wouldn't get hurt defensively if they worked the rotations right.

[thamadkant]

Siakam is a 6'9 with a 7'3 wingspan who is the perfect PF to put next to Ayton (other than Anteto/AD).

Crowder is a good PF but Siakam is on a much higher tier as a player.

I would make an offer to the Raptors and try to get him. He is in his prime and one of the best two-way frontcourt players in the league.

I think that the Raptors will want a high pick in this draft, so we probably are out of the race already...

Siakam is FINANCIALLY un-feasible without gutting the team who just made the Finals and on the rise.

He's out of the equation because if the Suns are in the market for a 38 Million dollar player a year... then why not go for Anthony Davis or heck Giannis.... 35-38 Million a year budget you can get ANY STAR you want.

No you can not. You can only trade for who is available.

Simmons, Beal and Siakam look available now. I would pass on Simmons, but I would try to get Beal or Siakam if the price is right.

you missed my point... 38 Million dollars a year gets you a star / super star. Using Giannis and Davis are examples... and im sure outside of Bucks, Davis can be had if Suns sell the farm.

[Barkley6]

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He would be a nice option as a backup C with Saric out.

How much he will get in FA? I think he probably gets the full MLE.

Zeller would be a nice Saric replacement, but I don't really think he moves the needle too much for us. He's not a great defender and he cannot shoot from the outside. So, if he's willing to take the DPE for one year, I'm fine with it, but I'm not committing more to him than that.

[Mr Puddles]

The IDEAL trade IMO...

Raptors / Suns

C. Johnson + Saric + 2021 Suns first pick (29) + 2023 Suns first pick (Unprotected)

for

Kyle Lowry


Then free agent signing...

Suns sign Andre Drummond (Vet Minimum) OR Daniel Theis (Vet Minimum) OR Dwight Howard (Vet Minimum)

Drummond is interesting that if he "buys in" with the system and focus on rebounding and catching lobs only... he would be an absolute bargain considering he is the league's best rebounder and at at prime age.

Lowry is a FA.

Lol, I don't really like the guy much either, but that's a bit harsh to be honest. There's definitely a bunch of F-ing A's on the RealGM General Board though.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Read on Twitter

He would be a nice option as a backup C with Saric out.

How much he will get in FA? I think he probably gets the full MLE.

I really hope that we don't seriously consider Cody Zeller. And especially not for the MLE. I mean yes, He's got a good FG% and he's a decent rebounder for his size. But he offers almost no rim protection whatsoever, Can't hit the three to save his life (14%0). And is basically yet another unathletic version of what we already have in Saric and Kaminsky ( again, Only without the ability to space the floor). I mean If we really want another front court big that's good around the post, And a solid rebounder BUT offers no rim protection or modicum of intimidation towards penetration, We could just as easily either resign Kaminsky on the vet's minimum or simply get Kanter much cheaper. Seriously though, We really need to stick to this list for our backup center targets:

- Nerlens Noel.
- Dwight Howard.
- Hassan Whiteside.
**(Outlier option) Javale Mcgee?

OR we could look to the draft for cheaper cost controlled options:
- Neemias Queta.
- Charles Bassey.
- Jay Huff.
** ( Outlier option) EJ ONU!
All would actually provide rebounding, a post presence, actual rim protection, AND aside from maybe Queta hit the three at a reasonable rate. After seeing how we got exposed often for our lack of size, rebounding and especially lack of rim protection, Last thing we need is another unathletic big that can't offer rim protection or hit the three. If he somehow gets the full mle from someone, I'll be happy for him. Just hope to god it's not from us!

[Slim Charless]

Siakam is FINANCIALLY un-feasible without gutting the team who just made the Finals and on the rise.

He's out of the equation because if the Suns are in the market for a 38 Million dollar player a year... then why not go for Anthony Davis or heck Giannis.... 35-38 Million a year budget you can get ANY STAR you want.

No you can not. You can only trade for who is available.

Simmons, Beal and Siakam look available now. I would pass on Simmons, but I would try to get Beal or Siakam if the price is right.

you missed my point... 38 Million dollars a year gets you a star / super star. Using Giannis and Davis are examples... and im sure outside of Bucks, Davis can be had if Suns sell the farm.

Siakam on paper is a fine fit next to Ayton, but not at his price tag. He'd be making more than anyone on the team to be the 3rd/4th option on offense.

[Qwigglez]

I looked at Siakam, but he is virtually impossible to get because of how much he's getting paid unless the Suns are gutting their roster. If the Suns are looking to upgrade at the 3/4 spot, then we have to look at players in the $10-$20 million range and that includes guys like: Jerami Grant, Christian Wood, Robert Covington, Marcus Morris, Kyle Kuzma, Bojan Bogdanovic, Caris LaVert, TJ Warren, Domantas Sabonis, Julius Randle. Probably a few others I'm missing, and a few names I wouldn't even consider...

[Ghost of Kleine]

I'm still intrigued by the idea of trading Saric and Crowder for Bledsoe and his partially guaranteed contract ( 3.9 million if waived by 6/29/22). If we weren't opposed to moving Crowder in the deal, That would clear $14 million off of our books by next summer! Or If some would prefer to keep Crowder, Then perhaps we just make the deal something like:
Saric/ Carter for Bledsoe and the 35th pick.
https://fanspo.com/nba/s/suns/trades/4Sq9YQNeCsgBOU/salary-swap-for-cap-flexibility-next-season
We'd take the 6 million dollar hit ( differential) this season, But add 8 million in savings next season as Bledsoes' guarantee is again only 3.9 million for next season. Personally, I'd flip Saric and Crowder for Bledsoe this season, And then waive Bledsoe right before june 29th next season for the 14 million in additional cap space. Then i'd resign Payne ( using bird rights), Use our full MLE to add Noel or Howard or maybe even Baynes??? ( backup 5) on a 1 yr deal. And the other half for one of Jeff Green, Nik Batum, Mo Harkless, or Reggie Bullock ( clutch player/ familiar with Paul too) to replace Crowder. Or start Bridges and Cam, And have one of these wings come off the bench with Bledsoe as our backup guard alongside of Payne ( 6th man role) ala Clarkson/ Lou Williams? Bledsoe could be our defensive compliment to Payne or Booker ( when Paul rests) and represents another competent veteran ball handler which we need.

In the draft, We take BPA at 29, And the best available backup guard option to replace Bledsoe once we waive him next summer! Bledsoe can choose to join lebron on the flakers or go back to the Clippers if he so wishes!

[RaisingArizona]

I'm still intrigued by the idea of trading Saric and Crowder for Bledsoe and his partially guaranteed contract ( 3.9 million if waived by 6/29/22). If we weren't opposed to moving Crowder in the deal, That would clear $14 million off of our books by next summer! Or If some would prefer to keep Crowder, Then perhaps we just make the deal something like:
Saric/ Carter for Bledsoe and the 35th pick.
https://fanspo.com/nba/s/suns/trades/4Sq9YQNeCsgBOU/salary-swap-for-cap-flexibility-next-season
We'd take the 6 million dollar hit ( differential) this season, But add 8 million in savings next season as Bledsoes' guarantee is again only 3.9 million for next season. Personally, I'd flip Saric and Crowder for Bledsoe this season, And then waive Bledsoe right before june 29th next season for the 14 million in additional cap space. Then i'd resign Payne ( using bird rights), Use our full MLE to add Noel or Howard or maybe even Baynes??? ( backup 5) on a 1 yr deal. And the other half for one of Jeff Green, Nik Batum, Mo Harkless, or Reggie Bullock ( clutch player/ familiar with Paul too) to replace Crowder. Or start Bridges and Cam, And have one of these wings come off the bench with Bledsoe as our backup guard alongside of Payne ( 6th man role) ala Clarkson/ Lou Williams? Bledsoe could be our defensive compliment to Payne or Booker ( when Paul rests) and represents another competent veteran ball handler which we need.

In the draft, We take BPA at 29, And the best available backup guard option to replace Bledsoe once we waive him next summer! Bledsoe can choose to join lebron on the flakers or go back to the Clippers if he so wishes!

The same Bledsoe that quit on us? I like you, but you're crazy, GOK.

[RunDogGun]

Are people really thinking we will find a trade partner for Saric?

[Ghost of Kleine]

I'm still intrigued by the idea of trading Saric and Crowder for Bledsoe and his partially guaranteed contract ( 3.9 million if waived by 6/29/22). If we weren't opposed to moving Crowder in the deal, That would clear $14 million off of our books by next summer! Or If some would prefer to keep Crowder, Then perhaps we just make the deal something like:
Saric/ Carter for Bledsoe and the 35th pick.
https://fanspo.com/nba/s/suns/trades/4Sq9YQNeCsgBOU/salary-swap-for-cap-flexibility-next-season
We'd take the 6 million dollar hit ( differential) this season, But add 8 million in savings next season as Bledsoes' guarantee is again only 3.9 million for next season. Personally, I'd flip Saric and Crowder for Bledsoe this season, And then waive Bledsoe right before june 29th next season for the 14 million in additional cap space. Then i'd resign Payne ( using bird rights), Use our full MLE to add Noel or Howard or maybe even Baynes??? ( backup 5) on a 1 yr deal. And the other half for one of Jeff Green, Nik Batum, Mo Harkless, or Reggie Bullock ( clutch player/ familiar with Paul too) to replace Crowder. Or start Bridges and Cam, And have one of these wings come off the bench with Bledsoe as our backup guard alongside of Payne ( 6th man role) ala Clarkson/ Lou Williams? Bledsoe could be our defensive compliment to Payne or Booker ( when Paul rests) and represents another competent veteran ball handler which we need.

In the draft, We take BPA at 29, And the best available backup guard option to replace Bledsoe once we waive him next summer! Bledsoe can choose to join lebron on the flakers or go back to the Clippers if he so wishes!

The same Bledsoe that quit on us? I like you, but you're crazy, GOK.

I'm not overtly concerned with things that happened like 4 yrs ago honestly. There was a lot of issues between the players and the suns front office back then, As well as the understandable fustration as a player with continual losing, coaching changes, and other instabilities. As the saying goes though, Time heals all wounds, Also winning changes perception. Additionally, Mcdonough isn't here with us anymore, And James Jones is friends with Lebron and Klutch, So by connection, That would be a stabilizing influence for Bledsoe. Ultimately though, I don't care about Bledsoes' mentality too much, As his primary value to us is again in his partial guarantee that would allow us to clear at least 14 million off the books next summer before we need to extend Ayton and Bridges. That 14 million could provide a greater financial cushion for us, And even more if Paul is willing to give us a discount.

But again, We're in an entirely different position than 4 yrs ago. And with Jones here instead of Mcdonough ( I believe the issue was , primarily with him), Jones' Lebron/ Klutch connection, And a really player friendly coach in Monty Williams along with being a contender will motivate Bledsoe to have his best attitude during whatever time he's here with us. But if by some off chance he becomes a malcontent, We just flip him to a team to another team that needs guard depth or intends to waive him ( partial guarantee) for cap savings at the trade deadline. Maybe we can get back a decent expiring or even a late 2022 first back in return???