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Post#21 » by G R E Y » Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:31 pm

Agree 100%, gump. We obviously need shooters but don't yet have the overall talent at each position to fill in with specialists and so it doesn't make sense to use a lottery pick on one even if he's not as much of a defensive liability as the two we moved on from.

I really like Jalen Johnson's skill set. It has breadth and depth already and fits our needs. But the red flags seem to be holding him back. We of course will have gotten solid intel from Duke. But even from the outside, the pattern of bailing on his college team (and they were reportedly relieved about his departure) after bailing on his HS team isn't a good look. That he's dropping in mocks seems to suggest some issues strong enough to make teams think twice despite the talent. All that said, I trust our due diligence, so if he ends up our choice, I'm comfortable with it.

As to Garuba, he's commonly described as Dreymond Green with better passing. I haven't seen any info of us interviewing or working him out, but he has been with the national team. Still, since he's rated around our range, I thought it might be worthwhile to look at him.

Just as Kispert fills a need at one end - we sorely need to improve our 3 takes and makes, within reason and flow - Garuba fills it at the other. Our most physical presence at the 4 or anywhere else really is Keldon, and he's not really a 4 but for small ball assignments. The guy bodied Zion on post-ups! Our PF rotation consists of UFAs Rudy, DeMar, Trey, then Luka.... So we're now left with basically Luka as the sole true PF and Keldon filling in.

In addition to true PFs, (or in 'positionless basketball' better described as a player's natural position or the center from which he expands his game) we don't have a lot of toughness. We're not exactly a finesse team as wrecking ball Drew plays that role, DeMar is strong, Rudy has size and build to post guys up and get to the rim, Derrick has a bigger guard build and takes a beating. But we don't really have a bruising type of player who can make guys shrink besides Keldon.

Enter Usman Garuba. He's a beast: 19, PF, 6'8', 229lbs, with a freakish 7'2" wingspan. Seriously, it looks like he has legs protruding from his shoulders. If you drew him accurately he'd look anatomically incorrect, but here he is. He loves to play with great physicality, loves to defend, loves to compete, and is a good passer. He moves his feet well at the perimeter, of course uses his hands to deflect attempts to dribble by him. He has a smooth athleticism for his frame and uses it to the fullest extent on D and rebounding.

The crux - he's not a scorer. Only 47.1FG%, 31.6% from 3 but takes 1.5 per game, and for all that defensive presence, pulls down 4.6 boards and only gets to the FT line an average of once per game and shoots 65.9%.

So in terms of team needs, this is another player that sways greatly to either one end of the floor or the other. Big improvement over milquetoast Lyles, but big deficit on the O end. He's young but has international experience so a team gets a smart player who knows how to play rather than simply a physical, athletic specimen who needs to learn to read plays and respond accordingly.

He'd help with passing, but like gump said, we need guys who are tough, versatile, talented two-way players preferrably on the cusp of creating their own shot.

I think that Garuba, like Kispert, filling one end tips the scales too much one way that lacks the balance of the other. He's going to make the team the drafts him look great as a powerful bench presence that supports and builds on the starting group's efforts, but I think we have a starting group balance adjustment and talent accumulation that we're focusing on. (We could probably invite Pons if he's undrafted for a lot of what Garuba provides, yes?)

Anyway, here's Garuba's body of work:

PLUSES

Plays with elite defensive effort and intelligence. He’s always locked in and flies around the floor for blocked shots, steals, and deflections.

Switchable defender with the bulk to handle bigger players and the agility to match up against quicker wings and even guards. He’s aware and does a good job of using his hands to shut passing windows.

Skilled passer who immediately finds the open man and delivers the ball with precision. If his scoring improves, he could facilitate in the half court using dribble handoffs and his solid handle.

A strong rebounder and a threat to push the ball on the break if he’s not outleting it to a sprinting teammate.

MINUSES

He doesn’t have a big vertical, which hurts him as a finisher around the rim.

Struggles shooting the ball. He has a poor percentage from the line and hasn’t shown much touch away from the rim. Past opponents left him wide open behind the arc, just as they will in the NBA.

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Post#22 » by G R E Y » Mon Jul 26, 2021 1:34 am

We've looked at a lot of prospects, more so than (reported) in previous years, yet not really too many within our range. Curious, isn't it? Many outliers are towards the end of the first round. Which teams have picks in the latter part of the first round right now who are willing to make trades? LAL, 76ers, Rockets, possibly Jazz. Something to keep an eye on.

I've kept saying 'we have so may guards' and we have had many but with Q being released and Patty a UFA, we really have four signed guards right now.

And so one of the outlier guards we worked out is Josh Primo:
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Joshua Primo is an 18.6-year-old, 6'5", 189lbs SG with a 6'9.25" wingspan. Averaged 38.1% from 3 on 3.8 attempts per game. Solid 75FT%. From the videos I've seen, Primo is an assertive SG who plays within his strengths, so although he's not the most athletic in rising above the rim, he's crafty in getting there and finishing well with good body control, wrist action, and touch. He's described below as having a high release and he does but he does also have a lot of movement to get the shot off from distance. He has very good range, although he's consistently bringing the ball up from around his hips up to the release. So even if he gets the pass higher, he brings the ball down to wind up and release. He also has a bounce with each long shot. Not a big deal because he's accurate, but perhaps it's a tell that with strength he can rely less on. He has some go-to moves to create space and get his shots off. Tends to be right hand and right drive dominant although he shows signs of Euro step drives bringing the ball up high over to the left side to finish with the left hand. Good touch there, too. Will need to get stronger, but doesn't shy away from physical contact on both ends - ball hound on man D, and shows a competitive edge throughout.

He’s demonstrated a more diverse offensive game than he showed in a spot-up role at Alabama, with combo guard skills and an impressive level of poise and focus. The fact he’s the youngest draft-eligible prospect adds a layer of appeal as a long-term project, and he’s in the mix for teams that can afford to be patient. Primo has starter-level upside in the long run.

https://www.si.com/nba/2021/07/20/nba-mock-draft-cade-cunningham-evan-mobley-jalen-green

PLUSES

Good shooter off the catch with a high release and deep range. He also has the ability to hit shots on the move using handoffs and screens.

Shooting threat off the bounce using one or two dribbles to create room for his jump shot.

Intelligent offensive player with a feel for when to cut and how to relocate off the ball.

Active on-ball defender with great fundamentals and length who defends with his feet and not his arms, sliding laterally to mirror opponents and rarely committing careless fouls.

Hard-nosed player who fights at every opportunity, whether it be after a switch against a bigger player or in an off-ball situation when he must help in the paint then hustle back to his man.

MINUSES

Lacks the type of ball-on-a-string handle and explosive first step found in players with go-to scoring upside. He projects more as a complementary player.

Below-the-rim athlete who struggles to finish around the hoop. He displays touch on crafty right-handed layups but avoids contact and lacks a reliable left hand.

Negative assist-to-turnover ratio due to his tendency to make risky passes and his lack of a strong handle.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

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Post#23 » by imagump1313 » Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:17 am

Meh, I'm not in love with Primo. Sure he is only 18 but he doesn't look very athletic. He almost looks like the same player as Kispert. A spot up set shooter. I don't even remember seeing a jump shot in that video. Its mostly uncontested set shots.

I sort of like Garuba but we already have much of what he does with Poeltl. If he was a better scorer maybe I would be on board with him.

I'm not just fixated on Johnson but if he is there we almost have to take a shot. The red flags are pretty much the only reason we even have a chance to draft him.

Watch Ziaire William's video and then watch Primo's back to back. I think Williams is capable of soo much more than him.
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Post#24 » by G R E Y » Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:20 am

Next up, we worked out Senior Oregon SG Ethan Thompson.

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Listed as 6'5", 195lbs,
... Thompson averaged 15.7 points, 4.0 rebounds, and 3.9 assists last season. He also shot 40.4% from the field and 32.9% from the 3-point line.

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/content/spurs-workout-oregon-state-guard-ethan-thompson

Pros:

Solid scorer off the dribble

Adequate shooter

Can post up smaller players

Excels at scoring on off-ball motion plays

Solid playmaker

Adequate defender

Above average athlete

Versatile player that can play multiple positions

Cons:

Inconsistent shooter

Lacks an elite first step off the dribble

Needs to improve his rebounding

May struggle to guard quicker players

Not an elite athlete

https://www.nbascoutinglive.com/ethan-thompson-scouting-report/



With all due respect to Thompson, sometimes I wonder whether we do some due diligence which also doubles as a red herring. Sure a number of players can be around the ranges where we are currently slotted to select, but this is the fourth player who has either withdrawn or is slotted out of the draft all together. Perhaps we're looking into inviting some prospects but so far four out of ten prospects are in this range, so about many as the ones we've looked at in the lottery. Feels like we're casting a very wide net in this draft.
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Post#25 » by G R E Y » Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:24 am

imagump1313 wrote:Meh, I'm not in love with Primo. Sure he is only 18 but he doesn't look very athletic. He almost looks like the same player as Kispert. A spot up set shooter. I don't even remember seeing a jump shot in that video. Its mostly uncontested set shots.

I sort of like Garuba but we already have much of what he does with Poeltl. If he was a better scorer maybe I would be on board with him.

I'm not just fixated on Johnson but if he is there we almost have to take a shot. The red flags are pretty much the only reason we even have a chance to draft him.

Watch Ziaire William's video and then watch Primo's back to back. I think Williams is capable of soo much more.

Yeah we've met with such a wide selection of prospects that it's hard to gauge where we're focusing - perhaps that's by design, but more on this a bit later (I'm catching up).

Love Ziaire. He's one of my dark horse selections. He's one of the few prospects who can already create his own shots and projects to be a go-to scorer if all the developmental stars align.
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Post#26 » by imagump1313 » Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:26 am

I think Sengun might have a chance to fall to us. He is a traditional big man who can score and would offset Poeltl's skillset. He falls into the "not athletic" category but he is a good passer and can score from all over.
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Post#27 » by G R E Y » Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:27 am

Yeah we worked out Sengun. Curious how that turned out. He certainly fits the O end even if he has a more traditional big man game. More on him later as I'm doing these in the order we met with prospects.

Next up we met with 24-year-old first round prospect Chris Duarte who is... wait for it... a 6'6", 190lbs SG. A ready-to-contribute sniper from 3, he shot 42.4% on 5.5 attempts per game as well as 81FT% on 3 FTAs per game. These are excellent and Duarte's age is sure to be mitigated by an experienced shooter who can be slotted into a line-up and make an impact from day one. Again, it's a matter of which team needs his go-to skill the most, or which direction a team wants to go in.

We have far more directions we can pivot to depending on how the draft and FA/RFA turns out this season than so many others before. And if we either acquire another pick or move up or down it's prudent to work out prospects who fill a need.

Important to note that GSW who have picks 7 and 14 and are wiling to make win-now moves have invited Duarte and Murphy for a second workout per Wasserman and the Knicks (19th pick) have had Duarte in for a private workout.

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In terms of Duarte vs. Kispert, the former is older but more of a 3&D prospect. He's an experienced, smart player with quick compact finishing movements with no extraneous motion in his 6'7" wingspan. He can shoot his 3 off a standstill from fakes and flat feet to shooting motion right away. Maintains physical balance. Good in transition and finishing at the rim. The definition of a wiry, 3&D sniper:
Duarte is a big guard with a nice looking 3pt shot. He does a good job of floating around the perimeter and finding his shot and he hits it with consistency.

Duarte is a solid defender who gets his hands in the passing lanes and has good instincts.

He runs the floor hard and plays with great energy. He’s fundamentally sound in all aspects of the game but his one standout NBA skill is his 3pt shooting.

https://nbadraftroom.com/chris-duarte/

Duarte is one of the top shooters in the draft, and a capable defender and ball-mover, with a mature style of play befitting his advanced age. While he struggles a bit to separate and create his own shot and isn’t supremely athletic, he’s smart and consistent enough to stick in the league a long time, particularly considering the premium placed on his skill set.

https://www.si.com/nba/2021/07/20/nba-mock-draft-cade-cunningham-evan-mobley-jalen-green

PLUSES

Elite spot-up shooter who can score off movement using screens, handoffs, and relocations.

He's not a dynamic shot creator, but he is a knockdown shooter off the bounce, able to punish defenders for going under screens or pull up and side-step defenders off spot-up situations.

Ambidextrous finisher who has the body control to bend and angle himself to score.

A hustler who goes out of his way to make plays on the ball, and a willing rebounder for his position.

Active and aware in the passing lanes as an off-ball defender. He makes reads like a defensive back and creates a ton of steals and deflections.

Good defensive fundamentals. He stays in his stance and plays hard. He needs to improve his lateral movement, but the tools are there.

MINUSES

Subpar playmaker at this stage of his career. He’s a willing passer but he’s inaccurate, especially off the dribble in pick-and-roll situations.

Likely not a very switchable defender, as he’s not quick enough to handle speedy guards or big enough for larger, stronger forwards.

He’ll be 24 by draft night.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

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Post#28 » by G R E Y » Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:26 am

More than half of the prospects we have interviewed or worked out are SGs or 2/3. And the trend continues!

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Mann's a 20.5-year-old, almost 6'5", T-Rex 6'4" wingspan, 178lbs SG. Another quality in common with the other SGs we've worked out is that Mann is a 3 sniper. Whereas some others specialize in C&S, Mann also excels shooting off the dribble. He shoots 40.2% from 3 on 4.7 attempts per game and 83.1FT% on 3.7 FTAs. Good 30.7%FTA rate. Has that side step / back step space-creating 3 shot. Drives and finishes decently. Strength is more on the O end rather than a two-way player.

Interesting that he projects as a solid bench scoring punch.

A smooth combo guard with a sweet shooting stroke, Mann has a game that is very well suited to today’s NBA. He’s got a smooth, quick and compact release on his jumper and is lethal from outside, hitting over 40% from 3 during his sophomore season at Florida.

He’s not an elite NBA athlete but he’s got good bounce, nice short area quickness and more than enough speed to hold his own. He does a good job of gaining separation with the dribble and creating his own offense.

Having grown to 6-4+ he now has decent shooting guard size. He projects as perimeter oriented shot-maker who might be best served as a scoring guard off the bench.

https://nbadraftroom.com/p/tre-mann/

While Mann has a bit of a wide range at this point in time, he’s a first-round type talent with a quality jumper and nice size for his position. The knock on him is that he’s a bit one-dimensional, as he’s more scorer than setup man, doesn’t play a physical style and isn’t known for being a committed defender, fancying himself as a perimeter creator and most comfortable with the ball in his hands. But Mann does have unique ability to create space off the dribble and score, and he remains a good bet to come off the board in the 20-30 range.

https://www.si.com/nba/2021/07/20/nba-mock-draft-cade-cunningham-evan-mobley-jalen-green

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Post#29 » by G R E Y » Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:09 am

And the next reported prospect we worked out is a 21-year-old, 6'5", 226lbs G/F:

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A bigger body and a relentless competitor are the dominant traits that stand out. Good on both sides of the ball.

The six-five swingman averaged 21.6 points and 11.1 rebounds per game, led the nation in double-doubles and took home a second straight Ohio Valley Conference Player of the Year award during his senior season.

Taylor is the all-time leader in points, offensive rebounds, and minutes for the Governors. And he finished his decorated collegiate basketball career as the second-leading scorer in Ohio Valley Conference history.

Although the Bowling Green native hasn’t received a ton of buzz during the pre-draft process, his ability to clean the glass combined with plus athleticism and a white-hot motor should draw second-round interest.

While Taylor was a dominant offensive force in each of his four seasons at Austin Peay University, he delivered a sizable impact on the defensive end, registering 130 steals and 132 blocks in 127 appearances.

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2021/7/8/22568495/report-the-spurs-have-conducted-a-pre-draft-workout-with-terry-taylor

Pros:

Decent scorer off the dribble

Can post up smaller players

Excels at scoring on off-ball motion plays

Very good rebounder

Decent defender

Adept at collecting steals and blocks

Solid athlete

Cons:

Needs to improve his shooting

May lack an elite first step off the dribble

Needs to improve his playmaking skills

Can struggle to guard quicker players

Not an elite athlete

Limited experience against top competition

Relative unknown commodity

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Post#30 » by G R E Y » Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:20 am

So of course the one part of the off-season when I'm swamped the Spurs work out and interview so many prospects than before. I am posting them all in the order they've been reported, but need to make some exceptions because we're close to draft day and some events, movements, and rumours that pertain to us are floating about.

First, we not only interviewed Kai Jones earlier, we also brought him in for a workout.

Here's a link to an earlier breakdown of his game: https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=92023964#p92023964


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'I had a great time in San Antonio,' Texas' Kai Jones enjoys his visit with Spurs
San Antonio ran him through NBA Combine-like drills to test his performance.

"I did some squats, bench press and just did some physical testing," said Jones. "I did some combine testing there. They took me through all the lane agility stuff."

Jones spent more than a day's visit with the Spurs. He says he went through more physical drills while in San Antonio.

"The next day I got to workout and play some 3-on-3. That had been my only 3-on-3 workout. That was really fun getting to compete and going at other guys," he said.

Said Jones: "That workout went out really well. It was a chance for me to play against the competition. To show how much stronger I've gotten and how much my skills have improved."

That's a lot of attention for a prospect, and the first - and only one of three - that we've both interviewed and worked out and / or spoke to their agent. The last time we dined and spent time with a prospect - Luka - we drafted him.

This is definitely a strong investment. The concern right now is that **** coin toss:
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The Grizz who we lost to by four points in the play-in have leapfrogged us today with a trade for the #10 pick. Word is that they have Giddey in their sights. But we'll see soon.

And word is also that we're looking to move up into the top 10. Since #10 is already re-taken (and perhaps still available as Grizz reportedly want to move up again - so Giddey but maybe not? Grizz also had a private workout with Moody), I wonder if that was our desired spot to get ahead of Charlotte and get 'our guy' (assuming it's Kai)? The higher up we move the more costly it is.

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Sources say the Spurs have angled to move up in the draft and into the top 10.

https://www.si.com/nba/2021/07/26/nba-mock-draft-2021-latest-buzz-rumors-cade-cunningham-jalen-green

SI has us picking Kispert because... I don't know why, but anyway that's two sources citing our desire to move up in the draft.

But
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So perhaps some of these can be gettable. Also, GSW is in win-now mode and has #7 and #14 so maybe something there can be made available, too.
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Post#31 » by G R E Y » Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:17 pm

And now there's word we're looking to move down:
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Fluid situation. Either moving up is too costly, or the player we want is slipping to where we can get an asset along with him. Exciting part of the year, but I'll also be glad when it's over! So stomach churning; I can only imagine what it must be like for prospects and PATFO.
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Post#32 » by G R E Y » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:47 am

The massive catch-up on who we've contacted continues.

Next up:
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Burns is a 23-year-old 6'0", 187lbs PG from San Antonio. A senior, his four years of college gives him an experience advantage over some of his fellow draftees in a guard-heavy draft. Another sharp shooter (the trend continues!),
Burns averaged 16.8 points, 4.3 rebounds, and 5.3 assists per game during his senior season and led the Raiders to a pair of NCAA Tournament appearances during his four-year stint with the program.

The San Antonio native capped off a decorated college career with 2021 All-Patriot First Team, 2021 Patriot Player of the Year, 2021 All-Patriot Tournament First Team, and 2021 Patriot Tournament MVP honors.

Burns drained an impressive 42.3% of his 4.4 long-range attempts per game last season.

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2021/7/8/22568708/report-the-spurs-have-conducted-a-pre-draft-workout-with-jordan-burns

Pros:

Solid shooter, especially from deep

Adequate scorer off the dribble

Very good free throw shooter

Adequate playmaker

Adequate rebounder for his size

Above average athlete

Cons:

Struggles to score in traffic

May struggle to adjust to a reduced role on offense

Undersized for his position

Can have lapses defensively

Old for a draft prospect, may have limited upside

Has limited experience against top competition

https://www.nbascoutinglive.com/jordan-burns-scouting-report/

From PtR link above:


Confident, quick, compact shot that he releases even when contested

Gets into open space well; had a mid-range J in pockets of space

Can create space with a side step or back step, too

Tends to be right hand, right side drive and finish dominant

Quick, pushes the pace with head up, looking for open teammates ahead
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Post#33 » by G R E Y » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:42 am

After transferring from Creighton, Mintz, a 6'3", 191lbs 23-year-old combo guard, had a successful first season in Kentucky and then went through the NBA feedback process a second time. He led Kentucky in PPG, 3-point shooting, and assists:
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Mintz, who will return to Kentucky as last season’s leading scorer at 11.5 points per outing, didn’t partake in any public workouts through NBA teams this summer, either. Instead, he worked in quiet, showcasing his skillsets to NBA personnel in private settings, one of those workouts being in front of his hometown Charlotte Hornets.

I had an interview–one off the top of my head–was with the Spurs. I got some pretty good feedback. Just talking about their liking of my game but a lot of it was more personal, getting to know me. For me personally, it was the kinda thing I wanted to hear where the decision was mine, what route I wanted to take.”

https://kentuckysportsradio.com/basketball-2/davion-mintz-interviewed-with-san-antonio-spurs-during-nba-draft-process/
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Post#34 » by G R E Y » Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:29 am

Looks like we contacted plenty of end-of-draft / undrafted prospects, many of whom fall into the experienced, good shooting, if undersized, categories. Colbey Ross certainly fits that mold:

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At just six-foot-one and 185 pounds, a perceived lack of upside and small stature could cause some franchises to stray away from using one of their picks on the 22-year-old ball-handler.

The undersized playmaker averaged 17.5 points, 4.1 rebounds, and 7.7 assists per game during his senior season and led the Waves to their first-ever College Basketball Invitational Championship.

Ross ended his college hoops career as a three-time First-Team All-West Coast Conference honoree and is the all-time points, assists, free throws, and minutes played leader in program history.

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2021/7/8/22569559/report-the-spurs-have-conducted-a-pre-draft-workout-with-colbey-ross

From PtR link above:



Has more of a scrappy, herky-jerky physicality rather than twitch athleticism that he combines with an upright dribble, good footwork, quick fakes and drives, and handles to get to the rim. Can finish with both hands. Can finish in a variety of ways - floater, scoop, mid-range. Uses turnaround, step back to create space. Likes to use P&R ball handling but tends to use his off arm in an obvious arc to his side to keep defender away. Always generates power from his springy legs on shots. Uses very short distance and compact movement on his 3s - where he starts and lands on shots is very close. Experienced scorer. Competitive.
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Post#35 » by G R E Y » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:31 am

Guards, guards, and more guards! We continue our broad search with Jaden Springer, an 18-year-old, 6'4.25" combo guard with a 6'7.75" wingspan, a terrific 3-point shot (another trend), and an excellent 44.1% FTA rate. He needs to take more 3s, averaging only 1.8 per game but hits them at 43.5%. Too small a fraction of his 9.1FGAs, but that he can generate FT chances from his FGAs so well and makes 81% of his FTs is a terrific base of skills to be starting with. Good rebounder on both ends, and blocks well, too. That's a nice two-way package to develop further.

Jaden was a polished player as a freshman with a knack for scoring the ball from mid range and making big plays under pressure. He’s a stout defender who gives great effort and plays the game the right way. One of the youngest players in the draft class.

https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2021-nba-mock-draft/

A straight scorer who gets it done from 3 levels. Handles the ball well under pressure and wants the ball in his hands with the game on the line.

Has strength and good burst. Plays low to the ground, with good lateral quickness. Takes it to the rim hard and really knows how to finish, although is more of a below the rim finisher.

Jaden is really good at getting his own shot and is lethal from mid range. Uses his strong frame to shield the defender and find room for his shot.

Springer brings the same energy and intensity on the defensive end. He seems to take the challenge personally and really gets after the ball handler.

https://nbadraftroom.com/p/jaden-springer/

PLUSES

Tenacious on-ball defender who can get into a scorer’s grill and bother them by mirroring their movement and using quick hands to swat at the ball. Isn’t highly versatile but will battle on a switch versus larger players.

Communicative off-ball defender who vocalizes rotations and always seems to be aware of what’s happening. An energizer on the court.

Drives to the rim like a running back shredding tacklers and can hit shots through the contact. If he can’t get to the rim, he has a soft floater.

Decisive decision-maker who has great timing as a passer locating cutters and shooters. Shows early signs of being able to manipulate defenders to open passing windows, though he’ll need to improve his handle.

Good shooting potential. Hit more than 80 percent of his free throws and nearly 40 percent of spot-up 3s, though both were on a small sample.

Always seems to be in control. Lacks a great first step and dynamic dribble moves but moves with purpose. Uses change of pace and excellent body control to fire difficult passes. Would be best suited in a multi–ball handler offense that promotes sharing the ball.

Produces at a high level despite sharing a backcourt with multiple talented players—which shows his ability to coexist with other talent.

MINUSES

Takes way too long to unleash his shot off the catch, which gives defenders time to close out. Even if he’s still open, he’ll often pass up opportunities.

Struggled to shoot pull-up jumpers from close range and took very few from outside of 17 feet. Has tried only nine dribble-jumper 3s.

Lacks burst and a creative handle to break down defenders one-on-one. It’s pivotal that he adds more dynamic moves.

Below-the-rim finisher who frequently has shots blocked or altered when contested. Was inefficient scoring in the pick-and-roll, and things will only get harder in the NBA since he won’t be able to overpower defenders.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft



I like how he uses his body to shield the ball on drives and length to finish at the rim. Can finish with both hands. Has an unorthodox style of side-to-front off both feet finish, but it works for him. Can contort his body and find spaces to finish. Nice compact shooting motion from 3, close starting and landing spot. Tenacious defender. Likes to get after it on both ends.
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Post#36 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:52 am

Like with Kai Jones, I'm going in order we connected with prospects unless something comes up. Something's come up:

SI.com has us selecting Moses Moody in his final mock draft. Several other mocks have him at within the top 10, so this would definitely be a player who drops to us:
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Meeting with Moses and talking to his agent (I believe he's with Klutch) is a solid one-two development. I don't know why we didn't work him out; some mocks have him above, others below #12. Anyway, he's one of the few we've connected with who are actually in and around our range, and he's a terrific prospect. Known for his intelligence and poise, Moody is a 6'6", 211lbs SG with an amazing 7'0.75" wingspan who is a ready 3&D right from the get go.

He's a terrific FT shooter (81.2%) on 5.8 attempts per game which would place him second behind DeMar's 7.2 this season. A big strength is his FTA rate at 48.2%. This ability to generate FT chances from FGAs would put him as the best on our team, better than even DeMar's 47.8%. I'm not comparing a college player's season to that of a seasoned pro's, but these are indicators of a guy who can make a positive impact immediately. Add that he shoots the 3 at 35.8%, is a multiple position defender with a body type that can handle putting on muscle to help him with the stronger opponents at the pro level, and we have the makings of a prospect with a broad skill set whose depth is only beginning to be honed.

There's something of an old school feel about him which I like. He plays with poise that belies his age and experience, already playing the game at his own pace a lot of the time. This ability is a pet harbinger for me; it's one of those 'can't teach' intersections of mindset and skill that is a unique foundation. Love his high release shot, love his ability to get mid-range Js, unorthodox drives (even if finishing needs polishing). He doesn't have the twitchiest athleticism, but has a strong core and moves his legs to stay with defenders and long arms to make passing or driving near him difficult.

PLUSES

Excellent physical dimensions. Uses his strong frame and long arms to alter shots as a help defender near the rim or harass opponents man-to-man on the perimeter.

Good stationary shooter, but needs to speed up his release on 3s off screens and handoffs.

Unselfish player who excelled in an off-ball role. Does a good job of reading the floor off the dribble to make simple passes using either hand. Has intriguing potential as a screener who can thrive on the short roll.

Capable of pulling up from midrange after one or two dribbles.

Anticipatory rebounder with a nose for the ball, especially on offense.

Versatile on-ball defender who invites contact from larger players and has the agility to contain smaller, quicker perimeter scorers.

Intelligent off-ball defender who always seems to be in the right position.

MINUSES

Struggled to generate open shots against better defenders. Doesn’t project as a primary scorer unless his handle dramatically improves, and lacks the fluidity of players who develop that skill.

Lacks a floater.

Draws a lot of fouls but doesn’t finish well inside. A below-the-rim finisher. Needs to add more touch on finishes.

Lives in the midrange off the dribble. Needs to extend his range to 3 to hit more one-dribble side-step shots like high-level role players can.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft



His maturity, BBIQ, and impressive interviews may put him well ahead of our pick. But if he drops, we ought to draft him.

If both Kai and Moses are somehow available, we'll have a fundamental direction of franchise conundrum on our hands. Kai definitely fits a need and although more raw (he only started playing basketball a few years ago after outgrowing - literally - long jump, I think) and right now has boom or bust potential, also has a tantalizing unteachable set of tools to hone. We'd have to be patient with him, something we excel at, and he'd be a long-term project, but our development program can make him reach the heights of a player with one of the highest potential ceilings.

Moses makes our floor and ceiling higher and makes some other assets, namely DJ and/or Lonnie who Woo identifies as us not being particularly attached to, as potential trade pieces to further improve our team.
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Post#37 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:16 am

It seems we workout at least three guards for every big, and this continues:
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Jaden Springer: 6'4.25", 202lbs SG with a 6'7.75" wingspan and only 18.84 years old, he's a terrific 3-point shooter (43.5%) but only takes 1.8 per game, and a very good FT shooter (81%) on 4 attempts. Another combo guard who excels at generating FT attempts from FGAs at 44.1%. This along with 3&D capability seem to be of particular focus by us in these workout selections. So many prospects already have these (FTAr) in their toolbox and are better at them than our current guards. Interesting.

Springer is listed as the fourth best PG in this draft on tankathon.com, and although he has a lot to hone with his craft, he's got a scorer's edge and a two-way game that can help a team as it helps him develop:

PLUSES

Tenacious on-ball defender who can get into a scorer’s grill and bother them by mirroring their movement and using quick hands to swat at the ball. Isn’t highly versatile but will battle on a switch versus larger players.

Communicative off-ball defender who vocalizes rotations and always seems to be aware of what’s happening. An energizer on the court.

Drives to the rim like a running back shredding tacklers and can hit shots through the contact. If he can’t get to the rim, he has a soft floater.

Decisive decision-maker who has great timing as a passer locating cutters and shooters. Shows early signs of being able to manipulate defenders to open passing windows, though he’ll need to improve his handle.

Good shooting potential. Hit more than 80 percent of his free throws and nearly 40 percent of spot-up 3s, though both were on a small sample.

Always seems to be in control. Lacks a great first step and dynamic dribble moves but moves with purpose. Uses change of pace and excellent body control to fire difficult passes. Would be best suited in a multi–ball handler offense that promotes sharing the ball.

Produces at a high level despite sharing a backcourt with multiple talented players—which shows his ability to coexist with other talent.

MINUSES

Takes way too long to unleash his shot off the catch, which gives defenders time to close out. Even if he’s still open, he’ll often pass up opportunities.

Struggled to shoot pull-up jumpers from close range and took very few from outside of 17 feet. Has tried only nine dribble-jumper 3s.

Lacks burst and a creative handle to break down defenders one-on-one. It’s pivotal that he adds more dynamic moves.

Below-the-rim finisher who frequently has shots blocked or altered when contested. Was inefficient scoring in the pick-and-roll, and things will only get harder in the NBA since he won’t be able to overpower defenders.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

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Post#38 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:44 am

A prospect who breaks the guard mold is Vrenz Blijenbergh, a 20-year-old, 6'10" 209lbs Belgian forward with a 7'1" wingspan. Some mocks have him listed as a SG/SF which gives an idea about the skill set - P&R, screens, passing vision, fluid movement into open spaces. Versatile and talented, more finesse than ruggedness, he's a prototypical fit for today's game. Hard to see a team that couldn't use him. Efficiency, O boards, and TOs need work, as does getting to the FT line - most of his shots come from beyond the arc, he projects initially as a floor spacer and facilitator for teammates.

Can't make out whether his active social media posts are more healthy confidence or cockiness.

His profile reads like what we want Luka to be on O with far better efficiency. Maybe redundant if Luka develops his O game as he has his D?

Pros:

Solid shooter, especially from deep

Adequate scorer off the dribble

Fairly good playmaker

Decent defender

Solid athlete

Versatile player that can play multiple positions

Cons:

Needs to improve his free throw shooting

Does not draw enough free throws

Can play too wildly on offense

Needs to improve his rebounding

Can tend to be unfocused defensively

Needs to add strength

https://www.nbascoutinglive.com/vrenz-bleijenbergh/
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Post#39 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:30 am

Multi-position players also feature prominently in our pre-draft process:
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A.J. Lawson: 21, 6'6", 6'10" wingspan, 180lbs, SG/SF

Pros:

Decent shooter

Adequate scorer off the dribble

Excels at scoring on off-ball motion plays

Decent playmaker

Decent defender that can get steals

Very good athlete

Cons:

Inconsistent shooter

Prone to hoisting up questionable shots

Can tend to force the issue too much on offense

Needs to improve his rebounding

Tends to gamble too much defensively

Can be too inconsistent in games

https://www.nbascoutinglive.com/a-j-lawson-scouting-report/

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Post#40 » by G R E Y » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:31 am

We have an undersized PG in Tre, but with parting ways with Q and Patty UFA, we need some backup PG/G:
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Isaiah Miller: 22, 6'0", 190lbs, G

Pros:

Decent scorer off the dribble

Decent playmaker

Good rebounder for his size

Solid defender

Adept at collecting steals

Good athlete

Cons:

Needs to improve his shooting

May have shot selection issues

Can gamble too much defensively

Not a true point guard, but is undersized to play the two

Has limited experience against top competition

https://www.nbascoutinglive.com/isaiah-miller-scouting-report/

It's tricky finding a video of Miller that's not a promo of the 'steal of the draft' variety, so highlights from a game will have to do:

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