OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins

[dice]

For a bag of chips

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"late round pick swap" is pretty vague. is it a 7th rounder for a 6th rounder? regardless, someone must be clearly beating him out in camp to dump a cheap #3 receiver for that little

The move will save $1.2 million towards this year’s salary cap, with just under $500,000 in dead money

The guys they signed don’t seem like slot receiver types. Could be that Dazz Newsome is legit. Ridley and Wims haven’t shown potential to realize upside yet. But who knows. The timing is interesting because they didn’t get Miller a chance to rehab his value any in training camp or preseason games. It might be a lost cause at this point.

yeah, it's curious. doesn't seem right that a contributor making so little would be a cap casualty

[MAQ]

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"late round pick swap" is pretty vague. is it a 7th rounder for a 6th rounder? regardless, someone must be clearly beating him out in camp to dump a cheap #3 receiver for that little

I think they held out hope for getting more out of a trade and just said screw it at this point. They've wanted to move him all offseason. Not only did he not improve at all last year, he also had the most inexplicable ejection in the playoffs last year against a player who is a known instigator and got into a fight with a different WR earlier in the season.

I legit cant believe he was on the team as long as he was. I still disagree with the move though. He would have been useful.

[CjayC]

I've not been a fan of Miller. I liked the person and intensity he brought(for better or worse), but too often it seemed like he's running a wrong route, or trying to 1-hand a bullet. Not to mention the penalties. Without looking I can't imagine his catch% is worth it either. To his credit he was playing with bad QBs and I've seen him get missed a bunch and that does weigh heavily.

I'm not lamenting the loss too much, I've heard they really liked what they saw out of Dazz Newsome before he broke his collar bone. Curious that we had to give up some draft capital(Or swap picks...however you care to put it).

[BeatDaCavs420]

Wish we got more for Miller but meh I won't lose sleep over it.

[Susan]

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"late round pick swap" is pretty vague. is it a 7th rounder for a 6th rounder? regardless, someone must be clearly beating him out in camp to dump a cheap #3 receiver for that little

The move will save $1.2 million towards this year’s salary cap, with just under $500,000 in dead money

The guys they signed don’t seem like slot receiver types. Could be that Dazz Newsome is legit. Ridley and Wims haven’t shown potential to realize upside yet. But who knows. The timing is interesting because they didn’t get Miller a chance to rehab his value any in training camp or preseason games. It might be a lost cause at this point.

Saw a tweet that they're going to play ARob in the slot more.

Byrd/Goodwin are legit speedsters and Mooney is a top 95% athlete/deep threat that has to be accounted for. If Kmet is a legit blocker (he looked it) a 3 wide set with Kmet/Monty is equally a run threat as it is a pass threat.

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[dougthonus]

The guys they signed don’t seem like slot receiver types. Could be that Dazz Newsome is legit. Ridley and Wims haven’t shown potential to realize upside yet. But who knows. The timing is interesting because they didn’t get Miller a chance to rehab his value any in training camp or preseason games. It might be a lost cause at this point.

He never had any value to rehab to. He was a guy people were maybe excited about early on, but he's never had a good year in his career, has awful hands, and is about three years older than a typical player of his experience and already at peak physical condition.

Maybe he'll pan out because maybe he's just a guy who puts it together in his fourth year, but he won't be rehabbing his value, he'll be building it because he's never actually been any good.

I'm glad this guy is gone. He seemed to drop so many passes that were on the money.

[fleet]

I can’t believe we traded up for him, I didn’t get the sense he had any buzz. Aside for quarterbacks, please stop the madness. In the end, we traded 2 seconds, and a fourth for a late pick swap and a million bucks. Just take your picks and stop wasting assets for the love of God.

[fleet]

"late round pick swap" is pretty vague. is it a 7th rounder for a 6th rounder? regardless, someone must be clearly beating him out in camp to dump a cheap #3 receiver for that little

The move will save $1.2 million towards this year’s salary cap, with just under $500,000 in dead money

The guys they signed don’t seem like slot receiver types. Could be that Dazz Newsome is legit. Ridley and Wims haven’t shown potential to realize upside yet. But who knows. The timing is interesting because they didn’t get Miller a chance to rehab his value any in training camp or preseason games. It might be a lost cause at this point.

Saw a tweet that they're going to play ARob in the slot more.

Byrd/Goodwin are legit speedsters and Mooney is a top 95% athlete/deep threat that has to be accounted for. If Kmet is a legit blocker (he looked it) a 3 wide set with Kmet/Monty is equally a run threat as it is a pass threat.

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That’s an approach to the issue I guess. Im sure he’ll get his balls and teams will need to move their top corner around and maybe it opens things up. IDK.

[Susan]

I can’t believe we traded up for him, I didn’t get the sense he had any buzz. Aside for quarterbacks, please stop the madness. In the end, we traded 2 seconds, and a fourth for a late pick swap and a million bucks. Just take your picks and stop wasting assets for the love of God.

No, they traded a future 2nd and a 4th for him.

The guys they signed don’t seem like slot receiver types. Could be that Dazz Newsome is legit. Ridley and Wims haven’t shown potential to realize upside yet. But who knows. The timing is interesting because they didn’t get Miller a chance to rehab his value any in training camp or preseason games. It might be a lost cause at this point.

Saw a tweet that they're going to play ARob in the slot more.

Byrd/Goodwin are legit speedsters and Mooney is a top 95% athlete/deep threat that has to be accounted for. If Kmet is a legit blocker (he looked it) a 3 wide set with Kmet/Monty is equally a run threat as it is a pass threat.

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That’s an approach to the issue I guess. Im sure he’ll get his balls and teams will need to move their top corner around and maybe it opens things up. IDK.

If Mooney/Goodwin/Byrd + our QB can successfully stress the defense vertically with single coverage (LBs can't cover ARob, a slot or Safety would have to come up) the whole thing opens up. Mooney IMO looks like a poor mans Tyreek Hill, KC always has two speedy WRs on the field with either Hardman or Watkins on the other side of Hill. Just need a QB who can convert on the deep balls.

[patryk7754]

Chandler Jones wants to be traded. Theoretically, the bears can do Quinn for Jones. The most draft compensation that would have to be included would most likely have to be a 2nd round pick, which would be tough given our picks situation. But if we can do Quinn and two 4ths for Jones it's a no-brainer.

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[dice]

The guys they signed don’t seem like slot receiver types. Could be that Dazz Newsome is legit. Ridley and Wims haven’t shown potential to realize upside yet. But who knows. The timing is interesting because they didn’t get Miller a chance to rehab his value any in training camp or preseason games. It might be a lost cause at this point.

He never had any value to rehab to. He was a guy people were maybe excited about early on, but he's never had a good year in his career, has awful hands, and is about three years older than a typical player of his experience and already at peak physical condition.

Maybe he'll pan out because maybe he's just a guy who puts it together in his fourth year, but he won't be rehabbing his value, he'll be building it because he's never actually been any good.

I'm glad this guy is gone. He seemed to drop so many passes that were on the money.

drop %s as chicago bears according to pro-football-reference:

5.1% miller (215 targets)
4.5% kmet (44)
3.3% robinson (399)
1.3% graham (76)
1.0% mooney (98)

major sample size issues for kmet, graham and mooney, obviously. and not a great sample size for miller or even robinson

[PaKii94]

The guys they signed don’t seem like slot receiver types. Could be that Dazz Newsome is legit. Ridley and Wims haven’t shown potential to realize upside yet. But who knows. The timing is interesting because they didn’t get Miller a chance to rehab his value any in training camp or preseason games. It might be a lost cause at this point.

He never had any value to rehab to. He was a guy people were maybe excited about early on, but he's never had a good year in his career, has awful hands, and is about three years older than a typical player of his experience and already at peak physical condition.

Maybe he'll pan out because maybe he's just a guy who puts it together in his fourth year, but he won't be rehabbing his value, he'll be building it because he's never actually been any good.

I'm glad this guy is gone. He seemed to drop so many passes that were on the money.

drop %s as chicago bears according to pro-football-reference:

5.1% miller (215 targets)
4.5% kmet (44)
3.3% robinson (399)
1.3% graham (76)
1.0% mooney (98)

major sample size issues for kmet, graham and mooney, obviously. and not a great sample size for miller or even robinson

I dunno my football stats. What's considered a good/bad drop percentage

[Susan]

He never had any value to rehab to. He was a guy people were maybe excited about early on, but he's never had a good year in his career, has awful hands, and is about three years older than a typical player of his experience and already at peak physical condition.

Maybe he'll pan out because maybe he's just a guy who puts it together in his fourth year, but he won't be rehabbing his value, he'll be building it because he's never actually been any good.

I'm glad this guy is gone. He seemed to drop so many passes that were on the money.

drop %s as chicago bears according to pro-football-reference:

5.1% miller (215 targets)
4.5% kmet (44)
3.3% robinson (399)
1.3% graham (76)
1.0% mooney (98)

major sample size issues for kmet, graham and mooney, obviously. and not a great sample size for miller or even robinson

I dunno my football stats. What's considered a good/bad drop percentage

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/receiving_advanced.htm

It's a little high but closer to average than terrible.

He rubbed George the wrong way with the ejection in the playoffs and he's gone now. He can totally turn it around in Houston and be a difference maker, it just wasn't meant to be here (injuries, QB play, immaturity being the main three reasons why).

[chicagoballer]

coming into the NFL, Miller was drawing comparisons to potentially be an antonio brown or steve smith. I liked his competitiveness on the field, but it turns out to be more stupidity. His shoulder injury started his career off poorly, but he didnt make the most of the time he had available. In fact, he really didnt lived up to the hype and consistently proved the comparisons wrong.

I really wanted him to succeed, but it was time to move him. Wish him the best. I think he needs an established franchise and strong leadership to hopefully get his head straight, not a young offense with a rookie QB awaiting to take control of team.

[Susan]

coming into the NFL, Miller was drawing comparisons to potentially be an antonio brown or steve smith. I liked his competitiveness on the field, but it turns out to be more stupidity. His shoulder injury started his career off poorly, but he didnt make the most of the time he had available. In fact, he really didnt lived up to the hype and consistently proved the comparisons wrong.

I really wanted him to succeed, but it was time to move him. Wish him the best. I think he needs an established franchise and strong leadership to hopefully get his head straight, not a young offense with a rookie QB awaiting to take control of team.

He's going to the biggest dumpster fire in the NFL but if Watson plays, he can have a huge year because only Brandin Cooks is there and the Texans will be ass so they'll be throwing the ball a ton. I'd draft him in the 15th round in fantasy as a flyer just because it's a high risk, high reward situation.

[CjayC]

I'd bet against Miller ever catching a pass from DW4. Maybe there's a chance they let it play out legally & on the field (if he doesn't end up on the commissioner's exempt list), but both sides seem pretty done with each other. Trade interest is low right now as team's are waiting for the NFL's investigation and these legal matters to be cleared. Guess we'll know in a few days

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[Susan]

I'd bet against Miller ever catching a pass from DW4. Maybe there's a chance they let it play out legally & on the field (if he doesn't end up on the commissioner's exempt list), but both sides seem pretty done with each other. Trade interest is low right now as team's are waiting for the NFL's investigation and these legal matters to be cleared. Guess we'll know in a few days

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Agreed, but even still that's a weak WR core on a bad team, there's going to be ample targets because they're going to be playing from behind so much. He could absolutely blow up this year.

[Susan]

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Last year of this ****. Good with me.

[dice]

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Last year of this ****. Good with me.

well...everyone thought the same thing w/ favre...on multiple occasions. but favre wasn't unhappy w/ management, so it's different

if the packers pay rodgers next offseason he might well stay. but it doesn't look very likely