Official 2021 NBA Draft Thread Part 4

Post #1 » by **SOUL** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:48 pm

Continue!

axl_c_cool · Post #2 » by **axl_c_cool** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:55 pm

Trading up would be a massive mistake unless

- It's both picks for Cade and we trade back into the late lottery. Only way both picks are added

- it's with Cleveland with 1 pick (5 or 8), an asset (WCJ), and a contract (Harris) for 3 and Love's contract

Someone here (sorry I can't remember who) posted that only 1 or 2 top 5 picks hit, I'd rather we take our 2 top 10 picks and go again next year because we are going to be a bottom 5 team again

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axl_c_cool · Post #3 » by **axl_c_cool** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:57 pm

Double post, why so much noise on Fultz going? I like Markelle, I think with a rebuild we need a fresh start all together and he'd benefit from going to somewhere that can compete now he's shown he can be healthy (knee excluded). I'd give him up in a deal with Houston, with WCJ, and #5, not sure what we'd take back...

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Skin · Post #4 » by **Skin** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:00 pm

Cunningham, Green, Suggs or bust.

axl_c_cool · Post #5 » by **axl_c_cool** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:01 pm

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Wall or Gordon, is that too much to take on to move Markelle and move up? I'd take Wall on to move up to #2

Wall + #2

Fultz + Harris + WCJ + #5

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axl_c_cool · Post #6 » by **axl_c_cool** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:01 pm

Skin wrote:Cunningham, Green, Suggs or bust.

Only Suggs if he drops right? Moving up would be wild

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RookieStar · Post #7 » by **RookieStar** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:02 pm

Was it slip of the tongue when our FO just said 2 players when we have 3 very good picks for this draft?

Post #8 » by **Bensational** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:02 pm

Pels opened up some serious cap space with that move. Can affordably keep or threaten to keep Lonzo now, but also have the room to make a play for Lowry. Can’t see Lowry wanting to join them, though, so I wonder what plan B is?

Grizz moving up to 10 is interesting. They’re usually smart with their picks so I’ll be curious to know who they wanted.

Post #9 » by **SOUL** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:02 pm

The more I watch of Green, I'm not sure he will become this elite scorer people are raving about. His shot is good but not great, he is SKI-NY, and he's athletic but he's not anywhere close to people like LaVine or Morant or anything like that.

He honestly reminds me of Jamal Crawford, Monta Ellis, slightly bigger Lou Will type of player. He may prove me wrong but I think I like Suggs more than him.

RookieStar · Post #10 » by **RookieStar** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:10 pm

Does anyone find it weird/curious that the Grizzlies are targeting the players in our range as well as we worked out? I mean they are in the #10 and the players they admitted to working out were in the 5-8 spots.

Trade with us? Our #8 for 10 plus assets?

RookieStar · Post #11 » by **RookieStar** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:12 pm

Bensational wrote:Pels opened up some serious cap space with that move. Can affordably keep or threaten to keep Lonzo now, but also have the room to make a play for Lowry. Can’t see Lowry wanting to join them, though, so I wonder what plan B is?

Grizz moving up to 10 is interesting. They’re usually smart with their picks so I’ll be curious to know who they wanted.

They apparently want Giddy ( no lie ) 8-)

IF they stay at 10. However it is also reported that they want to move up even more...

Skin · Post #12 » by **Skin** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:14 pm

axl_c_cool wrote:
Skin wrote:Cunningham, Green, Suggs or bust.
Only Suggs if he drops right? Moving up would be wild

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Suggs is one of the few in this draft that can flip the fortunes of this franchise. Kuminga, Barnes and anyone else is a flip of the coin whether they succeed or not.

axl_c_cool · Post #13 » by **axl_c_cool** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:17 pm

Skin wrote:
axl_c_cool wrote:
Skin wrote:Cunningham, Green, Suggs or bust.
Only Suggs if he drops right? Moving up would be wild

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Suggs is one of the few in this draft that can flip the fortunes of this franchise. Kuminga, Barnes and anyone else is a flip of the coin whether they succeed or not.

What makes you think Suggs is that sure of a pick, genuine question.

Would you trade both picks of assets too move up for him?

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Post #14 » by **Bensational** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:17 pm

SOUL wrote:The more I watch of Green, I'm not sure he will become this elite scorer people are raving about. His shot is good but not great, he is SKI-NY, and he's athletic but he's not anywhere close to people like LaVine or Morant or anything like that.

He honestly reminds me of Jamal Crawford, Monta Ellis, slightly bigger Lou Will type of player. He may prove me wrong but I think I like Suggs more than him.

Yeah, he's someone that I don't have full confidence in reaching the heights people expect of him, but I see so much ability and potential it's worth the shot. I think he uses his athleticism in ways that make him better than LaVine and closer to Morant, with his double clutches and unlimited hang time. It will be his handles, and ability to set up his own shot which will be the swing skill for him, imo. I could definitely see a Wiggins-like path for him if he doesn't end up being good enough on that end, though he doesn't seem as passive as Wiggins is.

I've got him ranked #2 on my big board probably more out of a "I don't want to miss out" mentality, less than a "this kid is gonna be good" regard which I hold Suggs and even Mann in.

PrimeThyme · Post #15 » by **PrimeThyme** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:27 pm

Ducklett wrote:The same Cam Reddish that when he finally got minutes in the playoffs almost 1v9'd the champs while Trae Young had a disappearing act?

Yes, the same one who shot 36% from the field, 26% from 3, && had a negative DBPM last year in the other 700 plus minutes he played. He's literally the spitting image of what he was coming out of college, && people are still trying to use one stretch of hot shooting and dialed in defense to justify the other 95% of his time on the court.

cedric76 · Post #16 » by **cedric76** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:36 pm

**** the grizzlies, i want moody

Listening to Jeff, 99.99% chance we keep our 2 picks

https://www.nba.com/magic/videos/jeff-weltman/pre-draft-press-conference-2-20210726

Nyce_1 · Post #17 » by **Nyce_1** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:38 pm

RookieStar wrote:Does anyone find it weird/curious that the Grizzlies are targeting the players in our range as well as we worked out? I mean they are in the #10 and the players they admitted to working out were in the 5-8 spots.

Trade with us? Our #8 for 10 plus assets?

Just means our two front offices have similar evaluation on players.

RookieStar · Post #18 » by **RookieStar** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:44 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Does anyone find it weird/curious that the Grizzlies are targeting the players in our range as well as we worked out? I mean they are in the #10 and the players they admitted to working out were in the 5-8 spots.

Trade with us? Our #8 for 10 plus assets?
Just means our two front offices have similar evaluation on players.

Oh no doubt and you can say the same for many other teams but I was talking more about draft RANGE. It would be the same about us doing the same work on Green Mobley Cade even though we are on the 5th spot with the Grizz doing with Kuminga Bouk Moddy on the 10th... who knows maybe they expect one of them to drop to 10th and no need to move up at all.

Nyce_1 · Post #19 » by **Nyce_1** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:45 pm

If we keep picks: give me 2 of Moody/Barnes/Wagner.

I'll be intrigued with J.Johnson.

RookieStar · Post #20 » by **RookieStar** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:46 pm

cedric76 wrote:**** the grizzlies, i want moody

Listening to Jeff, 99.99% chance we keep our 2 picks

https://www.nba.com/magic/videos/jeff-weltman/pre-draft-press-conference-2-20210726

Yeah... but the sad thing for some of us is we have 3 picks...