Official Trade Thread - Part XLI

Post #1101 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:11 pm

queridiculo wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:I hate this **** clout chasing hooper **** slobbering looser.

Acting like he knows something about something "it's jerimi grant hahaha" exactly why you don't trade a pick and a young player for him. He's never gonna be a star. He's not gonna help you win a tittle. This dudes a clown.

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Insult the man, that's your prerogative, but he's not wrong.

Deni + this years first is a price too steep for me, but Grant is a player with positive value on a relative team friendly contract.

It's on Washington to finally make up their mind.

Compete, or rebuild, you can't string Beal along and expect him to sit still forever.

I could live with Deni, Bryant and Hutchinson for Grant, but that's primarily because I think Jerami is ideally suited to be the kind of glue guy we always expected Otto Porter to be and I believe a healthy starting lineup consisting of Brodie/Beal/Grant/Hachimura/Gafford could play an exciting brand of basketball and compete.

If the goal is to win now the Wizards could do much worse than Jerami Grant, it's up to the Wizards to decide who they want to be.

Pay lip service to winning, or rebuild, you can't do both.

Grant's just an ordinary player who doesn't do anything particularly well and likely won't move the needle.

The Consiglieri · Post #1102 » by **The Consiglieri** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:11 pm

DCZards wrote:
The Consiglieri wrote:
It's absurd, if we say Beal, they'd listen, and we might even be able to get a sweetener considering how South his stock has gone compared to Beal in the past month or two, but Westbrook? It's just patently absurd, even w/his 2nd half turnaround. He's still a 33 year old past it, shoot first guard who hasn't won anything ever, hasn't lead anyone anywhere, and is on an albatross of a contract for two more years (btw, I get that he's 32 now, but that's irrelevant since he'll turn 33 a few weeks into the season).

Westbrook helped lead OKC teams to 3 WC finals and an NBA finals. That’s a lot of winning.

Pretty sure that was Durant and Westbrook hitching a ride.

FAH1223 · Post #1103 » by **FAH1223** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:45 pm

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NatP4 · Post #1104 » by **NatP4** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:57 pm

I’m down with the Westbrook trade either way if it nets us the Lakers 1st round pick. We could turn that into Jaden Springer, Sharife Cooper, or Jared Butler. That is completely worth it, especially with the removal of such a ball dominant high usage player.

If that leads to Beal asking out, it is what it is. This roster isn’t winning anything with a win now trade of the 15th overall pick anyways.

Post #1105 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:02 pm

I don't see any point in trading Westbrook for players like Schroder, Kuzma, and Keiff, tbh. .

DCZards · Post #1106 » by **DCZards** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:03 pm

The Consiglieri wrote:
DCZards wrote:
The Consiglieri wrote:
It's absurd, if we say Beal, they'd listen, and we might even be able to get a sweetener considering how South his stock has gone compared to Beal in the past month or two, but Westbrook? It's just patently absurd, even w/his 2nd half turnaround. He's still a 33 year old past it, shoot first guard who hasn't won anything ever, hasn't lead anyone anywhere, and is on an albatross of a contract for two more years (btw, I get that he's 32 now, but that's irrelevant since he'll turn 33 a few weeks into the season).

Westbrook helped lead OKC teams to 3 WC finals and an NBA finals. That’s a lot of winning.

Pretty sure that was Durant and Westbrook hitching a ride.

Yup…Russ doesn’t get to those finals without KD…and Durant doesn’t get there without Westbrook.

Post #1107 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:06 pm

My thinking is the Wiz wouldn't be entertaining these supposed Westbrook trade talks unless they are seriously planning on trading Beal. Then again, I'm not really believing they're working hard on trading Beal.

The Consiglieri · Post #1108 » by **The Consiglieri** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:08 pm

DCZards wrote:
The Consiglieri wrote:
DCZards wrote:Westbrook helped lead OKC teams to 3 WC finals and an NBA finals. That’s a lot of winning.

Pretty sure that was Durant and Westbrook hitching a ride.

Yup…Russ doesn’t get to those finals without KD…and Durant doesn’t get there without Westbrook.

I think that's fair, but if we're attributing the success to anyone specific, it's definitely Durant that gets the lion share of the attribution.

pcbothwel · Post #1109 » by **pcbothwel** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:25 pm

So, My only interest at this point is if we can get a top 4 pick. Detroit and Houston are in deep rebuild, so I doubt anything there. So its really 3 or 4...
- GSW is all in on Beal for their assets
- Toronto have "had most serious talks" with Philly for Simmons
- Cavs open to trading down and Love needs to go
....Here we go:

Trade for 3:

Spoiler:

Trade for 4:

Spoiler:

Value is off somewhere, but there is something there for everyone.

Post #1110 » by **Rafael122** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:29 pm

queridiculo wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:I hate this **** clout chasing hooper **** slobbering looser.

Acting like he knows something about something "it's jerimi grant hahaha" exactly why you don't trade a pick and a young player for him. He's never gonna be a star. He's not gonna help you win a tittle. This dudes a clown.

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Insult the man, that's your prerogative, but he's not wrong.

Deni + this years first is a price too steep for me, but Grant is a player with positive value on a relative team friendly contract.

It's on Washington to finally make up their mind.

Compete, or rebuild, you can't string Beal along and expect him to sit still forever.

I could live with Deni, Bryant and Hutchinson for Grant, but that's primarily because I think Jerami is ideally suited to be the kind of glue guy we always expected Otto Porter to be and I believe a healthy starting lineup consisting of Brodie/Beal/Grant/Hachimura/Gafford could play an exciting brand of basketball and compete.

If the goal is to win now the Wizards could do much worse than Jerami Grant, it's up to the Wizards to decide who they want to be.

Pay lip service to winning, or rebuild, you can't do both.

The issue I have is that this dude is just like any other Wizards fan, but just has a slightly bigger platform.

- Grant is from the area so it makes sense to put two and two together.

- Grant is probably a name Beal has thrown out, and everyone who follows the Wizards online knows this guy is close to the family, so he's just pushing the family's agenda out there.

I can't believe he hasn't been blackballed from the local media yet lol. He doesn't work for the Post or any other local paper, doesn't work for NBCSN, he's just a young kid riding the Beal wave until its their time to cut him.

PaulinVA · Post #1111 » by **PaulinVA** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:37 pm

Aldridge: It’s time, finally, for the Wizards and Bradley Beal to move on from each other

"I don’t mean to still be a noodge on this. But at some point, this franchise has to start aiming higher than making the playoffs and seeing what happens. It has to be willing to bite the bullet, endure a really bad year or two and stop kicking the can down the road, to improve its chances at a Luka Doncic or a Ja Morant or a Trae Young. This fan base has waited a ridiculously long time — 40-plus years — for a legit, long-lasting contender. And during those four decades, it’s continued to pay top dollar to watch far less than that, year after year.

Rebuilding won’t be pleasant or pretty, but it’s necessary..."

https://theathletic.com/2731476/2021/07/27/aldridge-its-time-finally-for-the-wizards-and-bradley-beal-to-move-on-from-each-other/?source=dailyemail

payitforward · Post #1112 » by **payitforward** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:58 pm

Everybody has a right to his own opinion, but I don't see how Jerami Grant is a good player. He did have a couple of good role player years, but he's gone down hill, & -- this, at least, must be obvious -- he's way overpaid.

He's not a target if Beal is with us, because he just doesn't move the hands on the dial. & He's obviously not a target if we trade Brad.

FAH1223 · Post #1113 » by **FAH1223** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:11 pm

Rafael122 wrote:
queridiculo wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:I hate this **** clout chasing hooper **** slobbering looser.

Acting like he knows something about something "it's jerimi grant hahaha" exactly why you don't trade a pick and a young player for him. He's never gonna be a star. He's not gonna help you win a tittle. This dudes a clown.

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Insult the man, that's your prerogative, but he's not wrong.

Deni + this years first is a price too steep for me, but Grant is a player with positive value on a relative team friendly contract.

It's on Washington to finally make up their mind.

Compete, or rebuild, you can't string Beal along and expect him to sit still forever.

I could live with Deni, Bryant and Hutchinson for Grant, but that's primarily because I think Jerami is ideally suited to be the kind of glue guy we always expected Otto Porter to be and I believe a healthy starting lineup consisting of Brodie/Beal/Grant/Hachimura/Gafford could play an exciting brand of basketball and compete.

If the goal is to win now the Wizards could do much worse than Jerami Grant, it's up to the Wizards to decide who they want to be.

Pay lip service to winning, or rebuild, you can't do both.

The issue I have is that this dude is just like any other Wizards fan, but just has a slightly bigger platform.

- Grant is from the area so it makes sense to put two and two together.

- Grant is probably a name Beal has thrown out, and everyone who follows the Wizards online knows this guy is close to the family, so he's just pushing the family's agenda out there.

I can't believe he hasn't been blackballed from the local media yet lol. He doesn't work for the Post or any other local paper, doesn't work for NBCSN, he's just a young kid riding the Beal wave until its their time to cut him.

He'll go to wherever the Beal family goes.

FAH1223 · Post #1114 » by **FAH1223** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:29 pm

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Post #1115 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:37 pm

FAH1223 wrote:

Read on Twitter

If the Wiz do trade Westbrook to LAL for a bag of beans and don't trade Beal... that will be a disaster.

prime1time · Post #1116 » by **prime1time** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:54 pm

Ruzious wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:

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If the Wiz do trade Westbrook to LAL for a bag of beans and don't trade Beal... that will be a disaster.

Why? The biggest issue this team had was Wall's contract. We were told it was untradable. We moved Wall for Russell. Now we can find a way to get rid of Russ' contract. The key will be what Sheppard's next move would be if/after we trade Russ. I've been advocating for a Russ trade for a while because he limits our young players with his ball-dominant style. It is highly likely that we will be a better team after Russ gets traded. We need a pg like Kyle Lowry or CP3. A guy who can be part of a ball-movement offense and still contribute. In my ideal world, we would get Lonzo. A large pg who could offset Beal's smaller size. But that's beside the point. Trading Russ does not mean we must trade Beal.

CntOutSmrtCrazy · Post #1117 » by **CntOutSmrtCrazy** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:26 pm

Saw this on the GB, not sure anyone else posted yet.

https://hoopswire.com/bradley-beal-expected-to-remain-with-wizards/

payitforward · Post #1118 » by **payitforward** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:35 pm

Ruzious wrote:I don't see any point in trading Westbrook for players like Schroder, Kuzma, and Keiff, tbh. .

Right... that's a terrible idea. Trade him for young talent, picks & expiring salaries as necessary.

pcbothwel · Post #1119 » by **pcbothwel** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:00 pm

payitforward wrote:
Ruzious wrote:I don't see any point in trading Westbrook for players like Schroder, Kuzma, and Keiff, tbh. .

Right... that's a terrible idea. Trade him for young talent, picks & expiring salaries as necessary.

Agreed.

DC In: Ball, Horton, 35, 43
DC Out: Russ, 15

LAL In: Russ
LAL Out: Kuz, KCP, Horton (SnT)

NOP In: Kuzma, KCP, 15
NOP Out: Ball (SnT for Max), 35, 43

Draft 2 of Ayayi, McBride, Wieskamp, Petrusev, or Queta with our 2 2nds.

Ball / McBride
Beal / Matthews
Deni / THT
Rui / Bertans
Gafford / Bryant

Deep Bench: Petrusev, Hutch, Winston, FA

Frichuela · Post #1120 » by **Frichuela** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:17 pm

Interesting that Tommy is holding a pre-draft conference tomorrow…

Will he deny all trade rumors?

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