BoatsNZones wrote:DCasey91 wrote:Swimming is not a niche sport. I think some people need to research things better lol.
Once again comp gets thrown out of the window with both. Comp for the clock? 100%.
You find me a top five sprinter or swimmer in the world that isn’t yet... congrats you won the lotto. They don’t just rock up. Privilege, talent pool, comp or otherwise. These are all baseless and not well thought out statements to me.
Here’s the distinction. Posters have talked about running.
In what world is that close to sprinting? And in what world is that close to high end athletes cruise speed that would destroy 9/10 of every male off rip.
80% my arse lol.
I think you're missing the point some are making. It is entirely possible that the would-be greatest swimmers in history just never had the opportunity to explore that as a possibility. Hell, it's entirely possible the would-be greatest swimmer in history never learned to swim. Where as EVERY young boy is always racing his friends and will find out where he stacks up at a very young age, and that path will be carved out from there accordingly (regardless of what country you live in).
I don't have a side in this debate off the top of my head, but what's not a debate is the size of the talent pool to reach #1.
They are both outlier freaks in the land of freaks. This talent finding exercise is pointless.
To find the next Bolt or Phelps (not saying as good as but of that class) is only inherit to as about as many individuals as the fingers in your hand. That’s it. And that’s per generation. I say good luck to anyone finding each. It’ll most likely end up being a fruitless voyage but go ahead.
Nothing to do with talent or competition at all.
Make both 100% any man can swim or “run” won’t matter in the end. It’s Dead Sea scroll stuff.
To square the obvious bias is it not then “Easier” to find and identify the next Bolt with everybody and their mother running?
Greatest swimmer that never swam. That’s like saying a freak genius didn’t know how to do calculus of rip. Fwiw they know how to do calculus or something extreme without anyone teaching it to them.
Talk about fantasy that is stretching the theoretical way beyond its perimeters. That’s not theory that’s not even a start point.
I buy say a kid breaking records then something tragic happened but:
To say greatest swimmer who never swam. You can claim you could be the greatest guitar player ever but you never picked up a guitar. These statements creep into all the way and legitimized racial prejudice in USA unis based on demos. It’s a post modern deconstructive view. That philosophy can sway anything doesn’t make it true or in any form believable what so ever.
Cuts no mustard in a discussion because there’s zero credible basis to work from. If you state something tangible okay.
But it’s a made up island that doesn’t exist.
Pigs could fly if they had wings.