2021 Draft Thread - Part II

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #381 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:15 am

wall_glizzy wrote:If we're keeping the band together: Trey Murphy
If we're blowing it up: I think I'd find it hard to pass up on Jalen Johnson's potential if available, but if he slips to 15 the background on his character probably wasn't good. We'll say Garuba.

Oh, my Lord!

I swear I did not read this before I just posted what I had to say about Jalen Johnson!

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #382 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:59 am

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They will work him out…. I conclude that a trade is perhaps eminent.

Washington must be planning to acquire additional picks, because Thomas isn’t the pick at 15. Plus, his position is SG. Beal might be on the way out.

queridiculo · Post #383 » by **queridiculo** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:48 am

9 and 20 wrote:
Benjammin wrote:How many times has a Boulez/Wizards draft night not been a disappointment? Kenny Green being the poster child for that.

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I think Juwan Howard is the poster child for draft disappointment. Can't do much worse than have your GM publicly lament having to pick you. John Nash came out, after we drafted Howard, and said he wished he could have drafted Jason Kidd instead. Ice cold, John Nash. Hilarious, but cold as ice.

Joke is on us, though, since Abe had to shell out $100 mil for Howard after the Heat shenanigans. It was maybe kinda worth it to hear the boos for Howard a few years later though, lol. Full circle, Juwan.

Being a DC basketball fan is to know pain.

Abe Pollin had nobody to blame but himself for the ridiculous rookie contract he negotiated with Juwan Howard.

queridiculo · Post #384 » by **queridiculo** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:33 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:

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They will work him out…. I conclude that a trade is perhaps eminent.

Washington must be planning to acquire additional picks, because Thomas isn’t the pick at 15. Plus, his position is SG. Beal might be on the way out.

It's due diligence, you never know what happens you want to prepare for all eventualities.

closg00 · Post #385 » by **closg00** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:42 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:On a side note, if we do stay in the draft my preferred course of action is trade down with McBride and Wieskamp as my top targets. Plus I'd love to add a 2nd round big, either Sharpe or Queta.

But, I'm expecting us to trade 15 for a vet.

Son of Ernie, I will be very surprised if this is not exactly what happens on draft night

Post #386 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:31 pm

9 and 20 wrote:
Benjammin wrote:How many times has a Boulez/Wizards draft night not been a disappointment? Kenny Green being the poster child for that.

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I think Juwan Howard is the poster child for draft disappointment. Can't do much worse than have your GM publicly lament having to pick you. John Nash came out, after we drafted Howard, and said he wished he could have drafted Jason Kidd instead. Ice cold, John Nash. Hilarious, but cold as ice.

Joke is on us, though, since Abe had to shell out $100 mil for Howard after the Heat shenanigans. It was maybe kinda worth it to hear the boos for Howard a few years later though, lol. Full circle, Juwan.

Being a DC basketball fan is to know pain.

That's not how it happened - at least from what I gleened from various sources. Nash did not say that publicly (frankly, no GM would do that). He said it in contract negotiations with David Faulk - Howard's agent - who always had axes to grind. Faulk is the one who made that comment public, and he poisoned the entire situation - using it expertly to help get Howard a ginormous contract in free agency that basically crippled the franchise.

FAH1223 · Post #387 » by **FAH1223** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:14 pm

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Shoe · Post #388 » by **Shoe** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:55 pm

From Wasserman

The demand for Oregon's Chris Duarte has risen, and there is a good chance he doesn't make it past the Washington Wizards at No. 15.

A source says the Knicks have made calls to late-lottery teams about trading up. I'm told the Warriors turned down Nos. 19 and 21 for No. 14. The Knicks don't have strong enough draft assets to get into top 10, and now it seems like a long shot they can get into the late lottery. Keep an eye on Murphy for New York, given how his reputation has blown up during the predraft process. The Knicks worked him out, and it sounds unlikely he'll be available at No. 19. Depending on their level of interest, New York could talk to the Wizards about a deal for No. 15.

NatP4 · Post #389 » by **NatP4** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:02 pm

Makes sense. The wizards have been working a ton of guys out that would be available at 19-21ish.

Wouldn't surprise me to see them move down for Duarte+another pick.

It’s not a bad move, but it’s not super exciting either. Duarte is a lock to be a good pro from day 1.

Frichuela · Post #390 » by **Frichuela** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:05 pm

15 for 19+21 would be such a no brainer. If Tommy pulls this off, that's a great trade!

Post #391 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:14 pm

Shoe wrote:From Wasserman
The demand for Oregon's Chris Duarte has risen, and there is a good chance he doesn't make it past the Washington Wizards at No. 15.

A source says the Knicks have made calls to late-lottery teams about trading up. I'm told the Warriors turned down Nos. 19 and 21 for No. 14. The Knicks don't have strong enough draft assets to get into top 10, and now it seems like a long shot they can get into the late lottery. Keep an eye on Murphy for New York, given how his reputation has blown up during the predraft process. The Knicks worked him out, and it sounds unlikely he'll be available at No. 19. Depending on their level of interest, New York could talk to the Wizards about a deal for No. 15.

Murphy shooting way up like this is almost history repeating itself when Cam Johnson shot up to 11 in the 2019 draft. I wouldn't use the 15th pick on either Duarte or Murphy, but if other teams are targeting them around there, we should take advantage of that and make a trade.

TGW · Post #392 » by **TGW** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:35 pm

Trade down with the Knicks. Take Springer and Cooper.

Oh and for anyone who wanted to listen to WizardsKev's breakdown:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bleav-in-wizards/id1501234915

closg00 · Post #393 » by **closg00** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:09 pm

Seems like every draft I am watching the activity of other teams wheeling and dealing while the Wizards are set-aside waiting for the crumbs.

payitforward · Post #394 » by **payitforward** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:30 pm

Well, obviously, 19 &21 for 15 would be an extraordinary steal!

But, if they want to do that... why not ask for 32 as well?

dckingsfan · Post #395 » by **dckingsfan** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:00 pm

Frichuela wrote:15 for 19+21 would be such a no brainer. If Tommy pulls this off, that's a great trade!

The key being what can Tommy pull off behind the scenes - go Tommy!

payitforward · Post #396 » by **payitforward** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:32 pm

Imagine the following:

we wind up with #7 & 14 via a Beal trade. Then we trade our #15 to the Knicks for #19 & 21 (as has been rumored). To make that work, they are willing to take Hutchison in return for their #32.

We draft:

Jonathon Kuminga (#7)
Chris Duarte (#14)
Usman Garuba (#15)
Sharife Cooper (#19)
Jaden Springer (#21)
Joe Wieskamp (#32)

That's one hell of a start on a rebuild, wouldn't you say?

DCZards · Post #397 » by **DCZards** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:42 pm

payitforward wrote:Imagine the following:

we wind up with #7 & 14 via a Beal trade. Then we trade our #15 to the Knicks for #19 & 21 (as has been rumored). To make that work, they are willing to take Hutchison in return for their #32.

We draft:

Jonathon Kuminga (#7)
Chris Duarte (#14)
Usman Garuba (#15)
Sharife Cooper (#19)
Jaden Springer (#21)
Joe Wieskamp (#32)

That's one hell of a start on a rebuild, wouldn't you say?

I'd be fine with these picks...for the most part. But if I had my druthers one of the picks in the teens would be Moody, Kispert or Murphy. And I'd draft Ziaire Williams. I love his upside.

It would be tossup for me on whether to draft Kuminga or Bouknight with the 7th pick. Although in a teardown and rebuild situation (where patience will be the clarion call) Kuminga would probably be the right pick.

FAH1223 · Post #398 » by **FAH1223** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:11 pm

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Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #399 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:14 pm

Frichuela wrote:15 for 19+21 would be such a no brainer. If Tommy pulls this off, that's a great trade!

Duarte and Butler would be one hell of a good draft day haul.

Post #400 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:33 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Frichuela wrote:15 for 19+21 would be such a no brainer. If Tommy pulls this off, that's a great trade!

Duarte and Butler would be one hell of a good draft day haul.

Butler's gonna slide imo - much like Brogdon did a few years ago - when there was question about his long-term health - I think an ankle issue. Butler's been medically cleared to play, but that's not gonna fully clear up worries about his long-term health. It might be different if he was a big-time athlete, but he isn't, and he's not explosive or super-quick and has only 6'4 wingspan; he's just real solid. I'll bet ya he slips to the 2nd round and ends up better than Mitchell.